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Re: [Healeys] Rear shroud rivets

To: "warthodson@aol.com" <warthodson@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear shroud rivets
From: Jake V <britishauto@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 10:40:18 -0400
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What you're describing is very similar to a Hi-Lok or Hi-Lite fastener we
use in the aerospace industry. Flat head that looks like a rivet with a
thread and a hex key recess in the end of the pin to keep it from spinning
while installing either a lock nut, or a special collar that shears off
when a certain torque is reached.
They're not cheap, but they are available and they go down to =C3=98 1/8".

https://jet-tek.com/hl11/

On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 10:24=E2=80=AFAM warthodson--- via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

> The shop that did my metal work found a novel approach. They used a die t=
o
> create threads on the shaft of the rivet & used a nut on the underside of
> the rivet to tighten it down. They did have to create a special tool
> out of a set of plyers to hold the rivet from turning while tightening th=
e
> nut. The result is completely original in appearance.
> Gary Hodson
>
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 12:51:08 AM CDT, alfuller194@gmail.com <
> alfuller194@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I don=E2=80=99t know or recall what kind of rivets were originally used o=
n the
> Healeys, but it sounds like you are trying to avoid having to 'buck'
> traditional rivets to make the shop head. If so, and you want pulled rive=
ts
> that have no hole left after the mandrel is pulled out - then maybe you
> want to look into "Closed-End Blind Rivets"....
>
> If you want to have traditional rivets, you can find the local
> Experimental Aircraft Association (EAA) chapter near you. Most likely the=
re
> will be person or persons who are or have built aircraft requiring buckin=
g
> lots and lots of rivets - and who would most likely be happy to take the =
20
> minutes to do yours!
>
> ----------------
> All the best,
>
> Al Fuller
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Donald Tate
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 10:24 AM
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Healeys] Rear shroud rivets
>
> Getting ready to install the rivets in the rear shroud. Is there a
> =E2=80=98modern=E2=80=99 alternative to the peened factory rivets?
> Or a modern way to peen the rivets by hand?  I assume the factory had a
> special tool for this purpose.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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<div dir=3D"ltr">What you&#39;re describing is very similar to a Hi-Lok or =
Hi-Lite fastener we use in the aerospace industry. Flat head that looks lik=
e a rivet with a thread and a hex key recess in the end of the pin to keep =
it from spinning while installing either a lock nut, or a special collar th=
at shears off when a certain torque is reached.<div>They&#39;re not cheap, =
but they are available and they go down to =C3=98 1/8&quot;.</div><div><br>=
</div><div><a href=3D"https://jet-tek.com/hl11/";>https://jet-tek.com/hl11/<=
/a><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 10:24=E2=80=AFAM warthodson--- via Hea=
leys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv><div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;,sans-serif;font-size=
:16px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">The shop that did my metal work found a novel appr=
oach. They used a die to create threads on the shaft of the rivet &amp; use=
d a nut on the underside of the rivet to tighten it down. They did have to =
create a special tool=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr">out of a set of plyers to=
 hold the rivet from turning while tightening the nut. The result is comple=
tely original in appearance.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Gary Hodson</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"m_5017182011429778174ydpcdce489fyahoo_quoted_86774=
41981">
            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
               =20
                <div>
                    On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 12:51:08 AM CDT, <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">alfuller194@gmail.com<=
/a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">alfuller=
194@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">I don=E2=80=99t know or recall what k=
ind of rivets were originally used on the Healeys, but it sounds like you a=
re trying to avoid having to &#39;buck&#39; traditional rivets to make the =
shop head. If so, and you want pulled rivets that have no hole left after t=
he mandrel is pulled out - then maybe you want to look into &quot;Closed-En=
d Blind Rivets&quot;....<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">If you want t=
o have traditional rivets, you can find the local Experimental Aircraft Ass=
ociation (EAA) chapter near you. Most likely there will be person or person=
s who are or have built aircraft requiring bucking lots and lots of rivets =
- and who would most likely be happy to take the 20 minutes to do yours!<br=
 clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">----------------<br clear=3D"none">All t=
he best,<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Al Fuller<br clear=3D"none"><=
br clear=3D"none">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">From: Healey=
s &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; On B=
ehalf Of Donald Tate<br clear=3D"none">Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 10:24=
 AM<br clear=3D"none">To: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.te=
am.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br cl=
ear=3D"none">Subject: [Healeys] Rear shroud rivets<br clear=3D"none"><br cl=
ear=3D"none">Getting ready to install the rivets in the rear shroud. Is the=
re a =E2=80=98modern=E2=80=99 alternative to the peened factory rivets? <br=
 clear=3D"none">Or a modern way to peen the rivets by hand?=C2=A0 I assume =
the factory had a special tool for this purpose. <br clear=3D"none"><br cle=
ar=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Sent from my iPhone<br cl=
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