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Seems like a good product. However, I have a vacuum pump for bleeding a =
it was pulling air from the nipple when it was open and I could not be =
certain the air in the lines was fully bleed out.
=20
John
=20
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Michael MacLean
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:05 AM
To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>; Ahealey help =
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
=20
This is what I use to bleed brakes and clutch lines. It's quick, safe =
and it simply pulls fluid from the bleeder nipple. No chance to spray =
brake fluid on paint. Just need to empty it once in a while.
=20
https://tinyurl.com/Vacuum-Bleeder
=20
Mike MacLean
=20
On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 9:21=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter =
Perhaps should mention that what prompted me to make the "ski boot clip" =
cap was an incident where the adaptor cap supplied with my Snap-on =
pressure bleeder blew off when bleeding the brake system on a =
restoration car and splattered brake fluid all over the new paint job =
and that of the car next to it (which we didn't notice until too late).
The cap threads on the original Girling reservoirs and master cylinders =
are not well formed so be careful if trying to use them to contain even =
2 or 3 p.s.i.
=20
M
=20
On Thu., Oct. 12, 2023, 10:05 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, =
It is not an Austin Healey part that the cap has to fit. Nor is it an MG =
part. It is a Girling part. I am only aware of 2 Girling caps. One was =
metal (early & late style) & one was plastic. I suspect the threads on =
both caps are the same, but have not proven that. Part of the fit =
problem is that the threads on the cast repro master cylinders with =
integral reservoirs are very poor.=20
Gary
=20
On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 03:43:40 PM CDT, John Spaur via =
=20
=20
Mirek, the recommended cap for the M.G. TC is 1109. I did call tech =
support and was told there was not a cap for the Austin-Healey even =
though the website states differently. Something interesting is tech =
support is provided by the former company owner. He bought the company =
in 2008 and sold it in September of 2023. Motive Products is located =
back east but tech support is provided by the former owner and the area =
code for his phone is 408.
=20
=20
I have attached photos of my reservoir and cap. I fabricated a cap from =
the lid of a PVC solvent can. It fits the reservoir and seals with one =
rubber gasket on the inside.
=20
Cheers,
John
=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:38 AM
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
=20
John, I have this same bleeder but the product number for the adaptor is =
not listed on my receipt. However, they can tell you which one you need =
I seem to recall that oddly they did not have an early Healey listed, =
but the cap on the reservoir is the same as my M.G. TC, and the dealer =
did have a listing for the TC, although I don=E2=80=99t see it on their =
web page. Weird. I=E2=80=99d contact their support people and ask.
=20
That said, I have never been able to get the cap on the bleeder to seal =
on the reservoir. I mentioned it to Mike Salter who had a similar =
problem. It just does not seem to screw down tight enough, although I =
can see no logical reason for it not sealing. It is on my =E2=80=9Cto =
do=E2=80=9D list (but near the bottom), to get a used reservoir and =
experiment to get a better fit.=20
=20
Lastly, I could not see how one would prevent the brake fluid in the =
tube from draining out when the cap was removed. I fitted a check valve =
in the line right above the adaptor. =20
=20
I=E2=80=99d be interested to see if other listers have had issues the =
adaptor sealing on the reservoir and how they solved it.
=20
For now, I am back to the old school method and it works fine, I just =
need to find another warm body to pump the pedal.
=20
Cheers, Mirek
=20
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net =
Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 10:03 PM
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
=20
Does anyone have one of these? I bought one and the Girling cap does not =
fit my Moss Motors Classic Gold brake/clutch fluid reservoir. I have a =
1962 BT7.
=20
=20
The adaptor above is the red cap and hose, the Girling one.
I think I need the 1100 adaptor pictured below.
=20
=20
If you have one, which adaptor did you have and do you have a product =
number you could send me?
=20
Thanks,
John
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Seems like a good product. However, I have a vacuum pump for bleeding a =
it was pulling air from the nipple when it was open and I could not be =
certain the air in the lines was fully bleed =
out.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>John<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Michael MacLean<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:05 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>; Ahealey =
help <healeys@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
Motive Products Power Bleeder<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>This is what I use to bleed brakes and clutch =
lines. It's quick, safe and it simply pulls fluid from the bleeder =
nipple. No chance to spray brake fluid on paint. Just need to =
empty it once in a while.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://tinyurl.com/Vacuum-Bleeder";>https://tinyurl.com/Vacuum-Bl=
eeder</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Mike MacLean<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 9:21=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter <<a =
href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Perhaps should mention that what prompted me to make =
the "ski boot clip" cap was an incident where the =
adaptor cap supplied with my Snap-on pressure bleeder blew off when =
bleeding the brake system on a restoration car and splattered =
brake fluid all over the new paint job and that of the car next to it =
(which we didn't notice until too late).<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The cap threads on the original Girling reservoirs and =
master cylinders are not well formed so be careful if trying to use them =
to contain even 2 or 3 p.s.i.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>M<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Thu., Oct. 12, 2023, 10:05 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>It is not =
an Austin Healey part that the cap has to fit. Nor is it an MG part. It =
is a Girling part. I am only aware of 2 Girling caps. One was metal =
(early & late style) & one was plastic. I suspect the threads on =
both caps are the same, but have not proven that. Part of the fit =
problem is that the threads on the cast repro master cylinders with =
integral reservoirs are very =
poor. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS"'>Gary<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"m_-6060738755307846448m_1781344211728711788ydpa63e0977yahoo_quoted_=
7796435766"><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 03:43:40 PM CDT, John Spaur via =
Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3D"m_-6060738755307846448m_1781344211728711788ydpa63e0977yiv1761550372=
"><div><div><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1F497=
D'>Mirek, the recommended cap for the M.G. TC is 1109. I did call tech =
support and was told there was not a cap for the Austin-Healey even =
though the website states differently. Something interesting is tech =
support is provided by the former company owner. He bought the company =
in 2008 and sold it in September of 2023. Motive Products is located =
back east but tech support is provided by the former owner and the area =
code for his phone is 408.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1F497=
D'> </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1F497=
D'> </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1F497=
D'>I have attached photos of my reservoir and cap. I fabricated a cap =
from the lid of a PVC solvent can. It fits the reservoir and seals with =
one rubber gasket on the inside.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1F497=
D'> </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1F497=
D'>Cheers,</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1F497=
D'>John</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1F497=
D'> </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3D"m_-6060738755307846448m_1781344211728711788ydpa63e0977yiv1761550372=
yqt48893"><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor =
currentcolor'><p><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <a href=3D"mailto:m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca"; =
target=3D"_blank">m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca</a> [mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca"; =
target=3D"_blank">m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> =
Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'John Spaur' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net</a>>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: =
[Healeys] Motive Products Power =
Bleeder<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>John, I have this same bleeder but the product number for the adaptor =
is not listed on my receipt. However, they can tell you which one =
you need I seem to recall that oddly they did not have an early =
Healey listed, but the cap on the reservoir is the same as my M.G. TC, =
and the dealer did have a listing for the TC, although I don=E2=80=99t =
see it on their web page. Weird. I=E2=80=99d contact their =
support people and ask.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>That said, I have never been able to get the cap on the bleeder to =
seal on the reservoir. I mentioned it to Mike Salter who had a =
similar problem. It just does not seem to screw down tight enough, =
although I can see no logical reason for it not sealing. It is on =
my =E2=80=9Cto do=E2=80=9D list (but near the bottom), to get a used =
reservoir and experiment to get a better fit. </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Lastly, I could not see how one would prevent the brake fluid in the =
tube from draining out when the cap was removed. I fitted a check =
valve in the line right above the adaptor. </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>I=E2=80=99d be interested to see if other listers have had issues the =
adaptor sealing on the reservoir and how they solved it.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>For now, I am back to the old school method and it works fine, I just =
need to find another warm body to pump the pedal.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Cheers, Mirek</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid =
windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor =
currentcolor'><p><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>John Spaur via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 10, 2023 =
10:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
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[Healeys] Motive Products Power =
Bleeder<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p><span lang=3DEN-CA =
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A'> </span><span =
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A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
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A'>Does anyone have one of these? I bought one and the Girling cap does =
not fit my Moss Motors Classic Gold brake/clutch fluid reservoir. I have =
a 1962 BT7.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
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A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
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A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
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A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
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A'>The adaptor above is the red cap and hose, the Girling =
one.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
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A'>I think I need the 1100 adaptor pictured =
below.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
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A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
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A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
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A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
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A'>If you have one, which adaptor did you have and do you have a product =
number you could send me?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
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A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
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A'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
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A'>John<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div =
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