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Re: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID

To: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
From: S and T Miller via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 18:31:45 +0000
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Thank you!


The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test dri=
ve."
________________________________
From: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 1:40 PM
To: S and T Miller <stmiller96@hotmail.com>
Cc: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>; =
healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID

Wire size is the way to identify coil spring rates.

100/6s and early 3000s had a wire size of .535=94, 225 lbs/in,  free length=
 varies 11=94 to 12=94;

MKII coils are .590=94, 330 lbs/in, free length approx. 10-1/2=94,

BJ8 coils are .610=94, 385 lbs/in, free length approx 10-1/4=94 long



Richard Mayor
boyracer466@gmail.com



On Oct 11, 2023, at 3:17 AM, S and T Miller via Healeys <healeys@autox.team=
.net> wrote:

Thank you so much for taking the time to find this! Very helpful and much a=
ppreciated.  I had assumed the opposite when it came to spring length.  Tha=
nks again.


The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test dri=
ve."
________________________________
From: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:17 AM
To: 'S and T Miller' <stmiller96@hotmail.com>
Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID

I dug this out of my records if it=92s any use=85
Simon
QUOTE
Simon Lachlan
From:         Rich Locasso [LifeisRich@MacConnect.com]
Sent:          11 September 1999 18:18
To:             Healey List
Subject:     Results from Coil Spring Posts



Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning coil=
 springs for the Healey.

Below are listed actual measurements of freestanding coil length taken by o=
wners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a recollection of one owner.

BN1 to BN4 - 14=94-15=94  (freestanding coil length)

BN6        - 12=94
BT7               - 11 13/16=94
BJ8        - 10 1/8=94



Coil thickness through BT7 was =BD=94 and for the BJ8 was 5/8=94.

So the Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it has been upgra=
ded through the years.

More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to earlier=
 Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or about the sa=
me.

I started this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my BT7 =
but logically it made more sense to me to install the spring specified at t=
he end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am goi=
ng to buy the BJ8 spring because it will reduce body roll in cornering, han=
dle a little better, and if it has a slightly firmer ride as one owner repo=
rted, I can easily tolerate that.

Thanks again,



Rich Locasso
Huntington Beach, CA UNQUOTE







From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of S and T Miller =
via Healeys
Sent: 10 October 2023 13:29
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID



I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to identify.  I recall that th=
ere were 4 variations from the 100 to the BJ8. I believe I have the measure=
ments for the 100, but was wondering if anyone had the specs for the later =
three?
TIA, Shawn



The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test dri=
ve."
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<div>The Millers<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 11, 2023 1:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> S and T Miller &lt;stmiller96@hotmail.com&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com &lt;simon.lachlan@alexarevel.p=
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<div style=3D"line-break:after-white-space">Wire size is the way to identif=
y coil spring rates.
<div><br>
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<div>100/6s and early 3000s had a wire size of .535=94, 225 lbs/in, &nbsp;f=
ree length varies 11=94 to 12=94;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>MKII coils are .590=94, 330 lbs/in, free length approx. 10-1/2=94,</di=
v>
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<div>BJ8 coils are .610=94, 385 lbs/in, free length approx 10-1/4=94 long</=
div>
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<div>Richard Mayor</div>
<div>boyracer466@gmail.com</div>
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tox.team.net&gt; wrote:</div>
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ng:0px; text-decoration:none; float:none; display:inline!important">Thank
 you so much for taking the time to find this! Very helpful and much apprec=
iated.&nbsp; I had assumed the opposite when it came to spring length.&nbsp=
; Thanks again.&nbsp;</span>
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The Millers<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&quot;Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a tes=
t drive.&quot;<br>
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 October 11, 2023 4:17 AM<br>
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ler' &lt;stmiller96@hotmail.com&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class=3D"x_Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>'Healeys' &l=
t;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"x_Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>RE: [He=
aleys] Ft. Coil Springs ID</font>
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<span>I dug this out of my records if it=92s any use=85</span></div>
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sans-serif">
<span>Simon</span></div>
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<span>Simon Lachlan</span></div>
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m; padding:0cm; font-size:10pt; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; background:wh=
ite">
<b><span>From:</span></b><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; Rich Locasso [LifeisRich@MacConnect.com]</span></div>
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m; padding:0cm; font-size:10pt; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; background:wh=
ite">
<b><span>Sent:</span></b><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; 11 September 1999 18:18</span></div>
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m; padding:0cm; font-size:10pt; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; background:wh=
ite">
<b><span>To:</span></b><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Healey List</span></div>
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m; padding:0cm; font-size:10pt; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; background:wh=
ite">
<b><span>Subject:</span></b><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Results from Coi=
l Spring Posts</span></div>
</div>
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; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"x_x_MsoBodyText" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 6pt; font-size:10pt; f=
ont-family:Arial,sans-serif">
Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning coil=
 springs for the Healey.</p>
<p class=3D"x_x_MsoBodyText" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 6pt; font-size:10pt; f=
ont-family:Arial,sans-serif">
Below are listed actual measurements of freestanding coil length taken by o=
wners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a recollection of one owner.</p=
>
<p class=3D"x_x_MsoBodyText" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 6pt; font-size:10pt; f=
ont-family:Arial,sans-serif">
BN1 to BN4 - 14=94-15=94&nbsp; (freestanding coil length)</p>
<div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,=
sans-serif">
BN6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - 12=94</div>
<div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,=
sans-serif">
BT7&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp; - 11 13/16=94</div>
<div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,=
sans-serif">
BJ8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - 10 1/8=94</div>
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ont-family:Arial,sans-serif">
Coil thickness through BT7 was =BD=94 and for the BJ8 was 5/8=94.</p>
<p class=3D"x_x_MsoBodyText" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 6pt; font-size:10pt; f=
ont-family:Arial,sans-serif">
So the Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it has been upgra=
ded through the years.</p>
<p class=3D"x_x_MsoBodyText" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 6pt; font-size:10pt; f=
ont-family:Arial,sans-serif">
More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to earlier=
 Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or about the sa=
me.</p>
<p class=3D"x_x_MsoBodyText" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 6pt; font-size:10pt; f=
ont-family:Arial,sans-serif">
I started this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my BT7 =
but logically it made more sense to me to install the spring specified at t=
he end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am goi=
ng to buy the BJ8 spring because
 it will reduce body roll in cornering, handle a little better, and if it h=
as a slightly firmer ride as one owner reported, I can easily tolerate that=
.</p>
<div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 212.6pt; font-size:10pt; font-family:=
Arial,sans-serif">
Thanks again,</div>
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; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
&nbsp;</p>
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Arial,sans-serif">
Rich Locasso</div>
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Arial,sans-serif">
Huntington Beach, CA UNQUOTE</div>
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&nbsp;</p>
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cm">
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sans-serif">
<b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"><span class=3D=
"x_Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Healeys &lt;healeys-bounces@autox.te=
am.net&gt;<span class=3D"x_Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf=
 Of<span class=3D"x_Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>S and
 T Miller via Healeys<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=3D"x_Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>10 October=
 2023 13:29<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=3D"x_Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>healeys@auto=
x.team.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"x_Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[Healey=
s] Ft. Coil Springs ID</span></div>
</div>
</div>
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&nbsp;</p>
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<div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,=
sans-serif">
<span style=3D"font-family:inherit,serif">I have several ft coil springs th=
at I'd like to identify.&nbsp; I recall that there were 4 variations from t=
he 100 to the BJ8. I believe I have the measurements for the 100, but was w=
ondering if anyone had the specs for the
 later three?&nbsp;</span></div>
</div>
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sans-serif">
<span style=3D"font-family:inherit,serif">TIA, Shawn&nbsp;</span></div>
</div>
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; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
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