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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil pressure gage fitting
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2023 14:13:24 -0400
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I noticed that the gauge line adaptor on the 100 has a different part
number from that on the 6 cylinder engines 6K22 and 1G1814.
The 100 engine is all BS threads whereas the 6's are Unified threads.
My guess is that the parts are not interchangeable.

M


On Sat., Sep. 2, 2023, 12:24 p.m. Harold Manifold, <manifold@telus.net>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have a spare one of these adapters but it came off of a 3000 engine fro=
m
> a MkI and it might be different from what was used on the 100.
>
> Here are the specs. Small side that threads into the block is 1/8" BSPT -
> tapered thread 28 TPI. The large side is 1/4 BSPP - parallel thread 19 TP=
I.
> Note that NPT may be close in size but has a different thread form than
> BSP. I made mistakes identifying fittings when I started restoring my car
> and learned the hard way to measure twice. All of the pipe and tubing
> fittings on my car were either BSPT or BSPP.
>
> I hope this helps.... Harold
>
> On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 1:58=E2=80=AFAM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> AFAIAC these fittings are always BSP,  usually tapered male, parallel
>> female threads. BSP fittings and adaptors are cheap and widely available=
 in
>> e.g. DIY shops or plumbers, at least in EU, but I also saw these in in U=
S
>> hardware shops.
>> BSP (UK) threads are similar to NPT (USA) but the top angle of the threa=
d
>> profile is 55degrees for BSP and 60degrees for NPT. You usually can feel
>> the difference as BSP has a rounded top while the NPT has a flatttened t=
op
>> that feels sharper.
>>
>>
>> Op 1-9-2023 om 16:24 schreef warthodson--- via Healeys:
>>
>> Surely, someone has the specs on this adaptor?
>> Gary Hodson
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 06:06:57 PM CDT, warthodson--- via
>> Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> What are the thread specifications for the adapter/fitting between the
>> block & the oil press. gage flex line on a 100?
>> I would like to know the TPI, thread form, and are the threads straight
>> or tapered & anything else important that I forgot to ask about.
>> Thanks,
>> Gary Hodson
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<div dir=3D"auto">I noticed that the gauge line adaptor on the 100 has a di=
fferent part number from that on the 6 cylinder engines 6K22 and 1G1814.<di=
v dir=3D"auto">The 100 engine is all BS threads whereas the 6&#39;s are Uni=
fied threads.</div><div dir=3D"auto">My guess is that the parts are not int=
erchangeable.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div di=
r=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat., Sep. 2, 2023, 12:24 p.m. Harold Man=
ifold, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferr=
er" target=3D"_blank">manifold@telus.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hello,<div><br></div><div>I have a sp=
are one of these adapters but it came off of a 3000 engine from a MkI and i=
t might be different from what was used on the 100.</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Here are the specs. Small side that threads into the block is 1/8&quot; B=
SPT - tapered thread 28 TPI. The large side is 1/4 BSPP - parallel thread 1=
9 TPI. Note that NPT may be close=C2=A0in size but has a different thread f=
orm than BSP. I made mistakes identifying=C2=A0fittings when I started rest=
oring my car and learned the hard way to measure twice. All of the pipe and=
 tubing fittings on my car were either BSPT or BSPP.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>I hope this helps.... Harold</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 1:58=E2=80=AFAM=
 Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.te=
am.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left=
:1ex"><u></u>

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    <p>AFAIAC these fittings are always BSP,=C2=A0 usually tapered male,
      parallel female threads. BSP fittings and adaptors are cheap and
      widely available in e.g. DIY shops or plumbers, at least in EU,
      but I also saw these in in US hardware shops.<br>
      BSP (UK) threads are similar to NPT (USA) but the top angle of the
      thread profile is 55degrees for BSP and 60degrees for NPT. You
      usually can feel the difference as BSP has a rounded top while the
      NPT has a flatttened top that feels sharper.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div>Op 1-9-2023 om 16:24 schreef
      warthodson--- via Healeys:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:16px">
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Surely, someone has the specs
          on this adaptor?</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Gary Hodson=C2=A0</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <div id=3D"m_8794657941290500383m_417630424352203597m_-72369260899819=
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        <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Aria=
l,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
          <div> On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 06:06:57 PM CDT,
            warthodson--- via Healeys <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.=
net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">&lt;healeys=
@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
            wrote: </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>
            <div id=3D"m_8794657941290500383m_417630424352203597m_-72369260=
899819857m_3481490811091343187ydp6a52811cyiv6054805142">
              <div>
                <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;,sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px">
                  <div dir=3D"ltr">What are the thread specifications for
                    the adapter/fitting between the block &amp; the oil
                    press. gage flex line on a 100?</div>
                  <div dir=3D"ltr">I would like to know the TPI, thread
                    form, and are the threads straight or tapered &amp;
                    anything else important that I forgot to ask about.</di=
v>
                  <div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks,</div>
                  <div dir=3D"ltr">Gary Hodson</div>
                  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
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