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Re: [Healeys] High clutch

To: Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] High clutch
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 08:48:11 -0400
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My problem is just the opposite:  After having just replaced the clutch and
pressure plate in my 100 the clutch does not *disengage* until almost the
extreme of clutch travel:  i.e. when my foot is depressed to the
floorboard.  Though my car's clutch was originally mechanical I long ago
replaced it with hydraulics after installing a Smitty's Five Speed Toyota
transmission conversion.  I have checked the linkage for wear and do not
see the usual egging out of holes and the hydraulics seem okay.  Would
changing the bore size of either or both cylinders be a fix?

Best--Michael Oritt

On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 10:35=E2=80=AFPM Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net> w=
rote:

> Assuming that there is no significant wear at the linkages and hydraulic
> issues, my understanding is that "clutches wear upwards"
> So, maybe the plate is worn after 58 years. To my mind mileage is less
> important than traffic and start/stop time driving.
> Find a hill and note if it slips at the top of pedal movement.
> rg
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> On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 5:05=E2=80=AFPM Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gma=
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> wrote:
>
>> Thinking more about your clutch issue. Your description of symptoms has
>> me confused.
>> Am I correct in assuming that what you are experiencing is that the
>> clutch starts to release (slip) after depressing the clutch pedal only a
>> small distance this being 1 - 2 inches from its normal (undepressed)
>> position?
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Sun., Aug. 13, 2023, 9:46 a.m. Don via Healeys, <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> My 65 BJ8 clutch catches after I depress the pedal about 1 to 2 inches
>>> from the rest position . I=E2=80=99ve replaced the clutch master cylind=
er and the
>>> slave cylinder. And I=E2=80=99ve bled the system . There=E2=80=99s. No =
slipping of the
>>> clutch . Car has 60,000 on it with I=E2=80=99m sure the original clutch=
. Is there
>>> any way to make it catch more mid way when I depress the pedal?  I know
>>> there are no threaded rods on either the pedal box or at the transmissi=
on
>>> end . Maybe a different length rod coming out of the slave cylinder?
>>>        Thanks , Don
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">My pr=
oblem is just the opposite:=C2=A0 After having=C2=A0just replaced the clutc=
h and pressure plate in my 100 the clutch does not=C2=A0<u style=3D"font-st=
yle:italic;font-weight:bold">disengage</u>=C2=A0until almost the extreme of=
 clutch travel:=C2=A0 i.e. when my foot is depressed to the floorboard.=C2=
=A0 Though my car&#39;s clutch was originally mechanical I long ago replace=
d it with hydraulics after installing a Smitty&#39;s Five Speed Toyota tran=
smission conversion.=C2=A0 I have checked the linkage for wear and do not s=
ee the usual egging out of holes and the hydraulics seem okay.=C2=A0 Would =
changing the bore size of either or both cylinders be a fix?</div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 13, 20=
23 at 10:35=E2=80=AFPM Roger Grace &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net=
">roggrace@telus.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Assuming that there is no signifi=
cant wear at the linkages and hydraulic issues, my understanding is that &q=
uot;clutches wear upwards&quot;</div><div>So, maybe the plate is worn after=
 58 years. To my mind mileage is less important than traffic and start/stop=
 time driving.<br></div><div>Find a hill and note if it slips at the top of=
 pedal movement.</div><div>rg<br></div></div><div id=3D"m_-2929227435071815=
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un, Aug 13, 2023 at 5:05=E2=80=AFPM Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mi=
chaelsalter@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D=
"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">Thinking more about your clutch issue. Your descri=
ption of symptoms has me confused.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">Am I correct in a=
ssuming that what you are experiencing is that the clutch starts to release=
 (slip) after depressing the clutch pedal only a small distance this being =
1 - 2 inches from its normal (undepressed) position?</div><div dir=3D"auto"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun., Aug. 13, 2023, 9:46 a.m. Don v=
ia Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px=
 solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">My 65 BJ8 clutch catches after I =
depress the pedal about 1 to 2 inches from the rest position . I=E2=80=99ve=
 replaced the clutch master cylinder and the slave cylinder. And I=E2=80=99=
ve bled the system . There=E2=80=99s. No slipping of the clutch . Car has 6=
0,000 on it with I=E2=80=99m sure the original clutch. Is there any way to =
make it catch more mid way when I depress the pedal?=C2=A0 I know there are=
 no threaded rods on either the pedal box or at the transmission end . Mayb=
e a different length rod coming out of the slave cylinder? <br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks , Don <br>
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