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To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>, Forum Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap
From: josef-eckert--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 14:15:28 +0200 (CEST)
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I am sure there are pictures in Healey books and brochures, road tests etc.=
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of original engine bays. We are actually enjoying holidays in Scotland, so=
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can't have a look from my side.
Josef



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Von: Michael Salter
Betreff: Re: Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap
Datum: 27. Juni 2023, 12:57
An: josef-eckert@t-online.de


Thanks Josef,  I  will make some more enquiries about caps on original=20
earlier 6 cylinder cars.=20
Do you have any examples of known originals?

M

On Tue., Jun. 27, 2023, 2:14 a.m. josef-eckert@t-online.de
  Michael,
  I do not believe that, as I know several 100/6s which kept the original
  rimless cap. I still have about a douzent painted rocker covers (valve
  covers) with both styles, half of each. The caps were not available
  aftermarket for many years.
  Josef
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  =20
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  -----Original-Nachricht-----
  Betreff: Re: Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap
  Datum: 2023-06-26T22:43:14+0200
  Von: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com
  =20
  =20
  =20
  As far as I can determine from the responses that I have received the
  "rimmed" style of cap was most likely the only type that was available
  during the production period.=20
  It seems fairly certain that the other "rimless" style only became
  available in later years.
  =20
  M

  On Mon., Jun. 26, 2023, 4:11 p.m. josef-eckert@t-online.de
    That leaves the question open: When was the change from the early
    version to the rimmed cap?
    My 62 BT7 already had the rimmed version. I know earlier 100/6s had the
    other cap.
    Josef Eckert
    Germany
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    -----Original-Nachricht-----
    Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap
    Datum: 2023-06-26T15:41:16+0200
    Von: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com
    =20
    =20
    =20
    Many thanks to all who took the time to respond to my oil cap question.
   =20
    It seems that the original type, with only 1 exception, is the "rimmed"
    cap.
    We will be updating the Concours Guidelines appropriately.
    =20
    M

    On Sat., Jun. 24, 2023, 5:43 p.m. Michael Salter, <
      =20
      I have been asked a question by a gentleman restoring a late BJ8
      about oil filler caps.
      The cap on his car is of this type and he is fairly sure that it is
      original.
      [image.png]
      However I am fairly sure that the only original caps that I have seen
      on 6 cylinder engines look like this.
      [image.png]
      with the distinct "rim" around the edge.
      =20
      Would appreciate anyone with a known original late BJ8 letting me
      know which type of cap is fitted to their car.
      =20
      Many thanks
      Michael Salter
      Concours Guidelines Editor.
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    I am sure there are pictures in Healey books and brochures, road tests =
etc. of original engine bays. We are actually enjoying holidays in Scotland=
, so can't have a look from my side.=20
    <br>Josef=20
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    <br><b>Von: </b>Michael Salter
    <br><b>Betreff: </b>Re: Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap
    <br><b>Datum: </b>27. Juni 2023, 12:57=20
    <br><b>An: </b>josef-eckert@t-online.de
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      Thanks Josef,&nbsp; I&nbsp; will make some more enquiries about caps =
on original earlier 6 cylinder cars.&nbsp;=20
     <div dir=3D"auto">
       Do you have any examples of known originals?=20
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     <div dir=3D"auto">=20
      <br>=20
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       M=20
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    <br>=20
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       On Tue., Jun. 27, 2023, 2:14 a.m. <a href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-o=
nline.de" target=3D"_top">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>, &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:josef-eckert@t-online.de" target=3D"_top">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>&g=
t; wrote:=20
      <br>=20
     </div>=20
     <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=20
      <div>=20
       <p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Michael,<br></=
span></p>=20
       <p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">I do not belie=
ve that, as I know several 100/6s which kept the original rimless cap. I st=
ill have about a douzent painted rocker covers (valve covers) with both sty=
les, half of each. The caps were not available aftermarket for many years.<=
/span></p>=20
       <p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Josef</span></=
p>=20
       <p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">&nbsp;</span><=
/p>=20
       <p style=3D"margin:0px">&nbsp;</p>=20
       <p style=3D"margin:0px">&nbsp;</p>=20
       <p style=3D"margin:0px">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>=20
       <p style=3D"margin:0px">Betreff: Re: Concours Question 6 cylinder Oi=
l filler cap</p>=20
       <p style=3D"margin:0px">Datum: 2023-06-26T22:43:14+0200</p>=20
       <p style=3D"margin:0px">Von: "Michael Salter" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
michaelsalter@gmail.com" target=3D"_top" rel=3D"noreferrer">michaelsalter@g=
mail.com</a>&gt;</p>=20
       <p style=3D"margin:0px">An: "<a href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online=
.de" target=3D"_top" rel=3D"noreferrer">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>" &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de"; target=3D"_top" rel=3D"noreferre=
r">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>&gt;</p>=20
       <p style=3D"margin:0px">&nbsp;</p>=20
       <p style=3D"margin:0px">&nbsp;</p>=20
       <p style=3D"margin:0px">&nbsp;</p>=20
       <div style=3D"color:#000000;font:12px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">=
=20
        <div dir=3D"auto">
          As far as I can determine from the responses that I have received=
 the "rimmed" style of cap was most likely the only type that was available=
 during the production&nbsp;period.&nbsp;=20
         <div dir=3D"auto">
           It seems fairly certain that the other "rimless" style only beca=
me available in later years.=20
         </div>=20
         <div dir=3D"auto">
           &nbsp;=20
         </div>=20
         <div dir=3D"auto">
           M=20
         </div>=20
        </div>=20
        <br>=20
        <div class=3D"gmail_quote">=20
         <div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">
           On Mon., Jun. 26, 2023, 4:11 p.m. <a href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert=
@t-online.de" target=3D"_top" rel=3D"noreferrer">josef-eckert@t-online.de</=
a>, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de"; target=3D"_top" rel=3D"=
noreferrer">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>&gt; wrote:=20
         </div>=20
         <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=20
          <div>=20
           <p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">That leave=
s the question open: When was the change from the early version to the rimm=
ed cap?<br></span></p>=20
           <p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">My 62 BT7 =
already had the rimmed version. I know earlier 100/6s had the other cap.</s=
pan></p>=20
           <p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Josef Ecke=
rt</span></p>=20
           <p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Germany</s=
pan></p>=20
           <p style=3D"margin:0px">&nbsp;</p>=20
           <p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">&nbsp;</sp=
an></p>=20
           <p style=3D"margin:0px">&nbsp;</p>=20
           <p style=3D"margin:0px">&nbsp;</p>=20
           <p style=3D"margin:0px">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>=20
           <p style=3D"margin:0px">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Concours Question=
 6 cylinder Oil filler cap</p>=20
           <p style=3D"margin:0px">Datum: 2023-06-26T15:41:16+0200</p>=20
           <p style=3D"margin:0px">Von: "Michael Salter" &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:michaelsalter@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_top">=
michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt;</p>=20
           <p style=3D"margin:0px">An: "<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.tea=
m.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_top">healeys@autox.team.net=
</a>" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noref=
errer" target=3D"_top">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</p>=20
           <p style=3D"margin:0px">&nbsp;</p>=20
           <p style=3D"margin:0px">&nbsp;</p>=20
           <p style=3D"margin:0px">&nbsp;</p>=20
           <div style=3D"color:#000000;font:12px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif=
">=20
            <div dir=3D"auto">
              Many thanks to all who took the time to respond to my oil cap=
 question.&nbsp;=20
             <div dir=3D"auto">
               It seems that the original type, with only 1 exception, is t=
he "rimmed" cap.=20
             </div>=20
             <div dir=3D"auto">
               We will be updating the Concours Guidelines appropriately.=
=20
             </div>=20
             <div dir=3D"auto">
               &nbsp;=20
             </div>=20
             <div dir=3D"auto">
               M=20
             </div>=20
            </div>=20
            <br>=20
            <div class=3D"gmail_quote">=20
             <div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">
               On Sat., Jun. 24, 2023, 5:43 p.m. Michael Salter, &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=
=3D"_top">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:=20
             </div>=20
             <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=20
              <div dir=3D"ltr">=20
               <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans=
-serif;font-size:small">
                 &nbsp;=20
               </div>=20
               <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans=
-serif;font-size:small">
                 I have been asked a question by a gentleman restoring a la=
te BJ8 about oil filler caps.=20
               </div>=20
               <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans=
-serif;font-size:small">
                 The cap on his car is of this type and he is fairly sure t=
hat it is original.=20
               </div>=20
               <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans=
-serif;font-size:small">=20
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,san=
s-serif;font-size:small">=20
                 <img src=3D"http://em/bin/service.upload/deliveruploadedfi=
le?id=3D3910910291" alt=3D"image.png" width=3D"295" height=3D"231">=20
                </div>=20
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,san=
s-serif;font-size:small">
                  However I am fairly sure that the only original caps that=
 I have seen on 6 cylinder engines look like this.=20
                </div>=20
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,san=
s-serif;font-size:small">=20
                 <img alt=3D"image.png" width=3D"313" height=3D"246">=20
                </div>=20
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,san=
s-serif;font-size:small">
                  with the distinct "rim" around the edge.=20
                </div>=20
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,san=
s-serif;font-size:small">
                  &nbsp;=20
                </div>=20
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,san=
s-serif;font-size:small">
                  Would appreciate anyone with a <u><strong>known original<=
/strong></u> late BJ8 letting me know which type of cap is fitted to their =
car.=20
                </div>=20
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,san=
s-serif;font-size:small">
                  &nbsp;=20
                </div>=20
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,san=
s-serif;font-size:small">
                  Many thanks=20
                </div>=20
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,san=
s-serif;font-size:small">
                  Michael Salter=20
                </div>=20
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,san=
s-serif;font-size:small">
                  Concours Guidelines Editor.=20
                </div>=20
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,san=
s-serif;font-size:small">
                  &nbsp;=20
                </div>=20
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,san=
s-serif;font-size:small">
                  &nbsp;=20
                </div>=20
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-serif;font-size:small">
                 &nbsp;=20
               </div>=20
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