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Re: [Healeys] Exhaust hangers

To: Hank Leach <gradea1@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Exhaust hangers
From: Curtis Arndt <cnaarndt@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 19:47:35 -0700
Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>
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Awesome, thanks!

On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 6:25=E2=80=AFPM Hank Leach <gradea1@charter.net> wr=
ote:

> Curt-absolutely, I'm glad that I had them for my 100 and they are on the
> car #588 October 22,1953-not too many UNF hardware items on this car.
> Regards, Hank
>
> -----------------------------------------
> From: "Curtis Arndt"
> To: "Hank Leach"
> Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net", "Michael Salter"
> Sent: Tuesday May 23 2023 9:40:38AM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Exhaust hangers
>
> Hank
>
> Thanks! Very cool photo, may we use this for the AH Concours Guidelines?
>
> No one can tell just when the "U" bracket threads changed.
>
> Many Whitworth fasteners on the late BN1s and BN2s were changed over to
> UNF in late '55 nad '56. Most of these changes were documented in the
> factory parts manual and service bulletins while some were not
> documented at all. Like Hank stated, when the parts bin ran out, new item=
s
> were often sourced and installed, and not necessarily documented.
>
> Until we can confirm that were UNF threaded "U" brackets used on later
> 100s in lieu of the BSF ones, then the assumption has to be that they wer=
e
> used until the end of BN2 production. So, if anyone out there has an
> original "U" clamp from a late BN1 or BN2 with UNF threads, please submit
> documentation to Michael Salter and me so that we can update the Concours
> Guidelines.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Curt Arndt
>
> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 8:59=E2=80=AFAM Hank Leach <gradea1@charter.net> =
wrote:
>
>> Ok, as long as we are showing clamps, here is my NOS exhaust bracket
>> set.  It was still wrapped in this photo, but as Curt says- its British
>> thread-probably until mid 1954 when they tried to unify or whenever the =
bin
>> holding exhaust brackets ran out and they refilled it. Whichever came
>> first. They did not throw any away in lieu of unified replacements.
>>
>> Likely, Michael's new set will be UNF as they are not making any early
>> parts for "purists"-same holds true on the rear gearbox mounts and other
>> items as well. Hank
>>
>> -----------------------------------------
>> From: "Curtis Arndt via Healeys"
>> To: "Michael Salter"
>> Cc: "Ahealey help"
>> Sent: Tuesday May 23 2023 8:27:22AM
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Exhaust hangers
>>
>> *<To be correct the "U" clamp should have UNF threads.   Just sayin'>*
>>
>> Michael, FWIW, both of my ORIGINAL "U" shaped clamps have BSF
>> fasteners... See photos. I reused one of my originals when I restored my
>> BN1. Modern reproduction "U" clamps use UNF or more commonly UNC fastene=
rs.
>>
>> On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 7:33=E2=80=AFPM Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gm=
ail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The strut attaches to an extra length oil pan screw, the one directly
>>> below the spot where the tach cable attaches to the tach drive housing.
>>> To be correct the "U" clamp should have UNF threads.   Just sayin'
>>>
>>> M
>>>
>>> On Mon., May 22, 2023, 5:47 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys, <
>>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Excuse my ignorance, but can someone tell me what number 8 is bolted t=
o
>>>> and where does it clamp to the exhaust pipe? Anyone have a picture of =
this
>>>> hanger in place?  I am ordering all the hangers for the exhaust system=
 to
>>>> install before I take the car off the jack stands.
>>>> Mike MacLean
>>>>
>>>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Awesome, thanks!=C2=A0<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 6:25=E2=
=80=AFPM Hank Leach &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net";>gradea1@char=
ter.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div>Curt-absolutely, I&#39;m glad that I had them for my 100 and th=
ey are on the car #588 October 22,1953-not too many UNF hardware items on t=
his car.=C2=A0 Regards, Hank<br><br><div></div><p>-------------------------=
----------------</p>From: &quot;Curtis Arndt&quot; <u></u><br>To: &quot;Han=
k Leach&quot;<br>Cc: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&quot;, &quot;Michael Salter&quot;<br=
>Sent: Tuesday May 23 2023 9:40:38AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Exhaust hang=
ers<br><br>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"4">Hank</font>
<div><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div>
<div><font size=3D"4">Thanks! Very cool photo,=C2=A0may we use this
for the AH Concours Guidelines?</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div>
<div><font size=3D"4">No one can tell just when the &quot;U&quot; bracket
threads changed.=C2=A0</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div>
<div><font size=3D"4">Many Whitworth fasteners=C2=A0on the late BN1s
and BN2s were changed over to UNF in late &#39;55 nad &#39;56. Most of
these changes=C2=A0were documented in the factory parts manual and
service bulletins while some were not documented=C2=A0at all. Like
Hank stated, when the parts bin ran out, new items were often
sourced and installed, and not necessarily documented.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div>
<div><font size=3D"4">Until we can confirm that were UNF threaded &quot;U&q=
uot;
brackets used on later 100s in lieu of the BSF ones, then the
assumption=C2=A0has to be that they were used until the end of BN2
production. So, if anyone out there has an original &quot;U&quot; clamp fro=
m
a late BN1 or BN2 with UNF threads, please submit documentation to
Michael Salter and me so that we can update the Concours
Guidelines.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div>
<div><font size=3D"4">Cheers,</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div>
<div><font size=3D"4">Curt Arndt</font></div>
</div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 8:59=E2=80=AF=
AM
Hank Leach &lt;<a>gradea1@charter.net</a>&gt;
wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>Ok, as long as we are showing clamps, here is my NOS exhaust
bracket set.=C2=A0 It was still wrapped in this photo, but as Curt
says- its British thread-probably until mid 1954 when they tried to
unify or whenever the bin holding exhaust brackets ran out and they
refilled it. Whichever came first. They did not throw any away in
lieu of unified replacements.=C2=A0
<div><br></div>
<div>Likely, Michael&#39;s new set will be UNF as they are not making
any early parts for &quot;purists&quot;-same holds true on the rear gearbox
mounts and other items as well. Hank<br><br><p>----------------------------=
-------------</p>
From: &quot;Curtis Arndt via Healeys&quot;<br>
To: &quot;Michael Salter&quot;<br>
Cc: &quot;Ahealey help&quot;<br>
Sent: Tuesday May 23 2023 8:27:22AM<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Exhaust hangers<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"4"><i>&lt;To be correct the &quot;U&quot; cl=
amp
should have UNF threads.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Just
sayin&#39;&gt;</i><br></font></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"4">Michael, FWIW, both of my ORIGINAL
&quot;U&quot; shaped clamps have BSF fasteners... See photos. I reused one =
of
my originals when=C2=A0I restored my BN1. Modern reproduction &quot;U&quot;
clamps=C2=A0use UNF or more commonly UNC fasteners.</font></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 7:33=E2=80=AF=
PM
Michael Salter &lt;<a>michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>The strut attaches to an extra length oil pan screw, the one
directly below the spot where the tach cable attaches to the tach
drive housing.
<div>To be correct the &quot;U&quot; clamp should have UNF threads.=C2=A0
=C2=A0Just sayin&#39;</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>M</div>
</div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon., May 22, 2023, 5:47 p.m.
Michael MacLean via Healeys, &lt;<a>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>Excuse my ignorance, but can someone tell me what number 8 is
bolted to and where does it clamp to the exhaust pipe? Anyone have
a picture of this hanger in place?=C2=A0 I am ordering all the
hangers for the exhaust system to install before I take the car off
the jack stands.</div>
<div>Mike MacLean</div>
</div>
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