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A guy named Alan Smith had a garage on South Beach full of old
Rolls-Royce's dating from Miami Beach's heydays in the 20's and 30's. He
described himself as a certified RR mechanic but I believe he was simply a
professional chauffeur who had a classy English accent. Nevertheless he
knew his stuff and as an aspiring gearhead I used to hang out there. I had
a TR3 with a radio and I remember asking Smith what he thought about
putting an inline resistor into the distributor to coil wire. He shook his
head and simply removed the wire, tied an overhand knot in it and
reinstalled it. *Voila--*the ignition noise was gone.
Best--Michael Oritt
On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 10:25=E2=80=AFAM josef-eckert@t-online.de <
josef-eckert@t-online.de> wrote:
> I do not care what kind of noices are in nearby vehicles.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Plugs
>
> Datum: 2023-03-19T15:15:37+0100
>
> Von: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
>
> An: "m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca" <m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "I always thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to suppress
> interference with car radios, which I don=E2=80=99t have,"
> -----------------------------------------------------
> They also eliminate your ignition's noise in nearby vehicles.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 8:11=E2=80=AFAM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> I do exactly what Bob does with my BT7 except I use a non-resistor plug =
=E2=80=93
>> Champion N12YC and 0.028=E2=80=9D gap. I too use a Lucas Sports coil. =
I always
>> thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to supress interference wi=
th
>> car radios, which I don=E2=80=99t have, but I am happy to be corrected o=
n that. I
>> think plugs are unnecessarily changed too frequently. I remove them onc=
e
>> in a while (every few years) and clean and check the gaps. I run them
>> until they shows signs of deterioration. I have never had a plug fail m=
e
>> in the Healey.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mirek
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Bob
>> Spidell
>> *Sent:* March 18, 2023 2:17 PM
>> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Plugs
>>
>>
>>
>> I've run over 150K miles on Champion plugs with nary an issue (and will
>> continue to do so); RN12YC for the BJ8 and whatever the recommended is f=
or
>> a 100M (RN10C?). With Pertronix Ignitors in both, I run slightly over
>> 'book' value (0.025") at 0.028" and both run very well (I also run stran=
ded
>> copper wire secondaries, so the 'R' is important, plus the plug caps hav=
e a
>> resistor in them as well). My one-time auto shop teacher father maintain=
ed
>> whatever spark was sufficient to ignite the mixture was adequate--mixtur=
e
>> and compression took it from there--but a larger gap induces a 'hotter'
>> spark which may be beneficial with leaner mixtures and at higher engine =
RPM
>> (but has less margin as the electrode erodes). A larger gap requires the
>> coil to produce more secondary voltage to jump the gap; a sports coil ma=
y
>> be required to produce a consistent spark. 12K miles on plugs is fine in=
my
>> experience--as long as the engine is in good nick--and they can be clean=
ed
>> and re-gapped at least once. Sandblasting is a no-no as it will pit the
>> ceramic insulator and can cause issues.
>>
>> I came across a YouTube video by David Vizard where he claims E3 Diamond
>> 'Split Fire' plugs produced slightly better mileage; yep, E3 makes a plu=
g
>> for Big Healeys (6-cyl only, I think). I've heard rumors that counterfei=
t
>> NGK plugs are in the market.
>>
>>
>> On 3/18/2023 9:49 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>>
>> Here=E2=80=99s a can of worms that we haven=E2=80=99t delved into for a =
while=E2=80=A6.
>>
>> So, I=E2=80=99m trying to get all my ducks in a row for a short run abro=
ad. Car
>> is a MkII BT7 with a DW fast road cam, 3 HD6s, big bore 6 branch and
>> 123Ignition plus a so-called Sports Coil.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. I was looking through my library of files on Healey topics and saw
>> that we were all over the place on plug gaps=E2=80=A6..all the way up=
to 0.035=E2=80=9D. So
>> what=E2=80=99s the opinion there??
>> 2. And which plug? Seemed to be mostly between NGK=E2=80=99s BP6ES & =
BP5ES.
>> Was a hold-out for their B8EGV 5627 but that was dismissed fairly
>> vigorously by Jeremy Welch as being way OTT for normal road use.
>> 3. And, I have 12,000 miles+++ as plug replacement mileage so long as
>> they still look and perform OK. Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Simon
>>
>>
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)=
">A guy named Alan Smith had a garage on South Beach full of old Rolls-Royc=
e's dating=C2=A0from Miami Beach's heydays in the 20's and=C2=
=A030's. He described himself as a certified RR mechanic but I=C2=A0bel=
ieve=C2=A0he was simply a professional chauffeur who had a classy English a=
ccent.=C2=A0 Nevertheless he knew his stuff and as an aspiring gearhead I u=
sed to hang out there.=C2=A0 I had a TR3 with a radio and I remember asking=
Smith what he thought about putting an inline resistor=C2=A0into=C2=A0the =
distributor to coil wire.=C2=A0 He shook his head and simply removed the wi=
re, tied an overhand knot in it and reinstalled it.=C2=A0 <i>Voila--</i>the=
ignition noise was gone.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:=
rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(5=
1,51,255)">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 19, 2023=
at 10:25=E2=80=AFAM <a href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de"; target=3D"=
_blank">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-o=
nline.de" target=3D"_blank">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>> wrote:<br></di=
v><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;borde=
r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><p style=3D"margin=
:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;=
color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">I do not care what kind of noices ar=
e<span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34)"> in nearby vehicles.</span><br></span>=
</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Plugs</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">Datum: 2023-03-19T15:15:37+0100</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">Von: "Michael Oritt" <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:michael.oritt@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>>=
;</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">An: "<a href=3D"mailto:m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca"=
target=3D"_blank">m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca</a>" <<a href=3D"mailto:m=
.g.sharp@sympatico.ca" target=3D"_blank">m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca</a>></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font:12px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><span style=3D"=
color:rgb(34,34,34)">"I always thought the resistor plugs were to intr=
oduced to suppress interference with car radios, which I don=E2=80=99t have=
,"</span></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><span style=3D"=
color:rgb(34,34,34)">-----------------------------------------------------<=
/span></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><span style=3D"=
color:rgb(34,34,34)">They=C2=A0also eliminate your ignition's noise in =
nearby vehicles.</span></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><span style=3D"=
color:rgb(34,34,34)">=C2=A0</span></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><span style=3D"=
color:rgb(34,34,34)">Best--Michael Oritt</span></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><span style=3D"=
color:rgb(34,34,34)">=C2=A0</span></div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 8:11=E2=80=AF=
AM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div lang=3D"EN-CA">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I do exactly what Bob does with my BT7 except I use =
a non-resistor plug =E2=80=93 Champion N12YC and 0.028=E2=80=9D gap.=C2=A0 =
I too use a Lucas Sports coil.=C2=A0 I always thought the resistor plugs we=
re to introduced to supress interference with car radios, which I don=E2=80=
=99t have, but I am happy to be corrected on that.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I think plug=
s are unnecessarily changed too frequently.=C2=A0 I remove them once in a w=
hile (every few years) and clean and check the gaps.=C2=A0 I run them until=
they shows signs of deterioration.=C2=A0 I have never had a plug fail me i=
n the Healey.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mirek<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></strong><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.tea=
m.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <strong>On =
Behalf Of </strong>Bob Spidell<br><strong>Sent:</strong> March 18, 2023 2:1=
7 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; targ=
et=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [=
Healeys] Plugs<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">I've run over 150K =
miles on Champion plugs with nary an issue (and will continue to do so); RN=
12YC for the BJ8 and whatever the recommended is for a 100M (RN10C?). With =
Pertronix Ignitors in both, I run slightly over 'book' value (0.025=
") at 0.028" and both run very well (I also run stranded copper w=
ire secondaries, so the 'R' is important, plus the plug caps have a=
resistor in them as well). My one-time auto shop teacher father maintained=
whatever spark was sufficient to ignite the mixture was adequate--mixture =
and compression took it from there--but a larger gap induces a 'hotter&=
#39; spark which may be beneficial with leaner mixtures and at higher engin=
e RPM (but has less margin as the electrode erodes). A larger gap requires =
the coil to produce more secondary voltage to jump the gap; a sports coil m=
ay be required to produce a consistent spark. 12K miles on plugs is fine in=
my experience--as long as the engine is in good nick--and they can be clea=
ned and re-gapped at least once. Sandblasting is a no-no as it will pit the=
ceramic insulator and can cause issues. <br><br>I came across a YouTube vi=
deo by David Vizard where he claims E3 Diamond 'Split Fire' plugs p=
roduced slightly better mileage; yep, E3 makes a plug for Big Healeys (6-cy=
l only, I think). I've heard rumors that counterfeit NGK plugs are in t=
he market.<br><br><br><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 3/18/2023 9:49 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrot=
e:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Here=E2=80=99s a can of worms that we haven=E2=
=80=99t delved into for a while=E2=80=A6.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>So, I=E2=80=99m trying to get all my ducks in =
a row for a short run abroad. Car is a MkII BT7 with a DW fast road cam, 3 =
HD6s, big bore 6 branch and 123Ignition plus a so-called Sports Coil.</span=
><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<ol style=3D"margin-top:0cm" start=3D"1" type=3D"1">
<li style=3D"margin-left:0cm"><span>I was looking through my library of fil=
es on Healey topics and saw that we were all over the place on plug gaps=E2=
=80=A6..all the way up to 0.035=E2=80=9D. So what=E2=80=99s the opinion the=
re??</span><u></u><u></u></li>
<li style=3D"margin-left:0cm"><span>And which plug? Seemed to be mostly bet=
ween NGK=E2=80=99s BP6ES & BP5ES. Was a hold-out for their B8EGV 5627</=
span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">=C2=A0 but that</span><span> was dismis=
sed fairly vigorously by Jeremy Welch as being way OTT for normal road use.=
</span><u></u><u></u></li>
<li style=3D"margin-left:0cm"><span>And, I have 12,000 miles+++ as plug rep=
lacement mileage so long as they still look and perform OK. Any thoughts?</=
span><u></u><u></u></li>
</ol>
<p><span>=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span>Thanks, Simon</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</blockquote>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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