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Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid

To: "'Bob Spidell'" <bspidell@comcast.net>, <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid
From: "Mark Donaldson" <ardmorebusiness@xtra.co.nz>
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2022 11:06:16 +1300
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DOT5 and DOT 5.1 are NOT compatible.

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I=E2=80=99ve have been using Bel-Ray DOT5 SBF in my BN2 and my tri-carb =
since 1992.

I=E2=80=99ve never had a problem.

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Mark

Ardmore, NZ

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From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>=20
Sent: Monday, 31 October 2022 5:35 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid

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"... There is a newer Glycol Ester DOT5 ..."

I think you're referring to 'DoT5.1'  I also think it was deliberately =
named so as to confuse the issue.



On 10/30/2022 8:05 PM, Christopher Moog via Healeys wrote:

I've used both. Currently prefer DOT4.

Also everyone is speaking of DOT5 but there are now two different DOT5s. =
The first is the older silicone based DOT5. There is a newer Glycol =
Ester DOT5 that is compatible with DOT3 and DOT4. It has a lower =
viscosity than the DOT3 and DOT4 so it works better in some ABS systems. =
It also has a higher boiling point than DOT3 and DOT4. Don't see an =
advantage in Healeys.



On 10/30/2022 10:00 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:

The best selling point for Dot 4 is you can mix any Dot 4 or even Dot 3 =
if you need to fill up.  As I understand it with Dot 5 you should be =
careful to always use the same brand to fill up if necessary.

Also, neither Dot 5 not Dot 4 is great for sitting a long time, Dot 4 =
absorbs water, Dot 5 will push any water down into the components.

Dot 4, if the car is not used regularly, needs to be flushed every =
couple of years.



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On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 5:43 AM Michael MacLean =

At this point in the restoration I have a completely rebuilt brake =
system with all new components and tubing.  Now is the time to make the =
decision to use DOT 4 or Silicone.  What's the consensus, if there is =
one?

Mike MacLean

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ge:EN-US'>DOT5 and DOT 5.1 are <b>NOT</b> =
compatible.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-langua=
ge:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-langua=
ge:EN-US'>I=E2=80=99ve have been using Bel-Ray DOT5 SBF in my BN2 and my =
tri-carb since 1992.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-langua=
ge:EN-US'>I=E2=80=99ve never had a problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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ge:EN-US'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Bob Spidell =
&lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 31 October 2022 =
5:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Brake Fluid<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>&quot;... There is a newer Glycol Ester =
DOT5 ...&quot;<br><br>I think you're referring to 'DoT5.1'&nbsp; I also =
think it was deliberately named so as to confuse the =
issue.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 10/30/2022 =
8:05 PM, Christopher Moog via Healeys =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I've used both. Currently prefer =
DOT4.<br><br>Also everyone is speaking of DOT5 but there are now two =
different DOT5s. The first is the older silicone based DOT5. There is a =
newer Glycol Ester DOT5 that is compatible with DOT3 and DOT4. It has a =
lower viscosity than the DOT3 and DOT4 so it works better in some ABS =
systems. It also has a higher boiling point than DOT3 and DOT4. Don't =
see an advantage in Healeys.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 10/30/2022 10:00 PM, Alan Seigrist =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>The best selling point for Dot 4 is you =
can mix any Dot 4 or even Dot 3 if you need to fill up.&nbsp; As I =
understand it with Dot 5 you should be careful to always use the same =
brand to fill up if necessary.<br><br>Also, neither Dot 5 not Dot 4 is =
great for sitting a long time, Dot 4 absorbs water, Dot 5 will push any =
water down into the components.<br><br>Dot 4, if the car is not used =
regularly, needs to be flushed every couple of =
years.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 5:43 AM Michael MacLean &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:springer.mike51@gmail.com";>springer.mike51@gmail.com</a>&g=
t; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>At this point in the restoration I have a completely =
rebuilt brake system with all new components and tubing.&nbsp; Now is =
the time to make the decision to use DOT 4 or Silicone.&nbsp; What's the =
consensus, if there is one?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Mike MacLean<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
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