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Speaking of putting something on the splines--------do any of you coat the =
splines with permatex after inserting a new oil seal in the rear of your tr=
anny shaft?
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 11:20:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query
Since we're grasping at input shafts, er, straws ... Did you lube
the splines with anything? I know it's a slight risk given grease
could be slung onto the disk or cover plate--although engine oil
will likely end up in the vicinity sooner or later--I've always done
it with no issues (if anybody cares, my favorite product for things
like this is Redline's wheel bearing grease).
I'm probably wrong, but I don't think 'centering' is the issue, as I
think Simon was probably pretty careful about it, and I've never
heard of anybody having trouble with a centering tool or input
shaft.
On 9/27/2021 8:02 AM, m.g.sharp--- via
Healeys wrote:
I
agree with Richard =E2=80=93 I go through the same =E2=80=9Cmicro=E2=80=9D=
centering
process. From: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
Sent: September 26, 2021 12:39 PM
To:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Cc:m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca; Healeys
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query One suggestion: When you use the
centering tool (plastic or otherwise), tilt the tool all
the way up then all the way down, then do the same from
side to side, then split the difference with the tool in
place when you tighten the pressure plate bolts. I
personally go through this routine at least 2 or 3 times
to make sure I am as close to the center position as
possible. One question: Why do you think the
metal input shaft is harder to use than the plastic
tool? The input shaft is much longer than the plastic
tool and you can get a better feel for finding the center
position when moving it through its range of motion as you
align the disc. On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 7:42 AM Simon
Lachlan via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
wrote: To revert to the problem I=E2=80=99ve being
having with my gearbox not wanting to reinstall to
my new clutch=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6 Bleeding it made no difference.. It was
a forlorn hope as I was sure I=E2=80=99d not lost any fluid
but miracles are always welcome. The gearbox is on the workshop floor as
is the new clutch. Before removing the new clutch I played
around with the AH Spares plastic alignment tool and
my spare shaft. Both went in without any trouble but
I suppose they would have anyhow unless they=E2=80=99d been
miles out?? The new clutch slides onto the shaft in
the gearbox just as it should. See attached file=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6Seems to=
me that the
old clutch was in pretty good shape and, with
benefit of 20/20 hindsight, one might have left well
alone! It=E2=80=99s been in there for 27 years that I know
of. There were/are a few discrepancies between the
old and new clutches. See attached. I don=E2=80=99t think
these would matter???? Are there any obvious steps that I
might have missed? Obvious, but, seemingly, not to
me! I haven=E2=80=99t taken out the flywheel.
Didn=E2=80=99t see why? It=E2=80=99s in; it=E2=80=99s straight/vertical an=
d
works. People state a preference for alignment
with a spare shaft rather than the black plastic
tool. I can see that the metal shaft might be
somewhat more precise, but harder to use surely? I=E2=80=99m reluctant to=
reinstall and just
repeat the whole sorry process=E2=80=A6. Any suggestion? Thanks,Simon
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<html><head><style> body {height: 100%; color:#000000; font-size:12pt; font=
-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;}</style></head><body><div>Speaking of=
putting something on the splines--------do any of you coat the splines wit=
h permatex after inserting a new oil seal in the rear of your tranny shaft?=
</div><div><br></div><div>----- Original Message -----<br>From: Bob Spidell=
<bspidell@comcast.net><br>To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>Sent: Mon, 2=
7 Sep 2021 11:20:35 -0400 (EDT)<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query<=
br></div><div><br></div><div><br> Since we're grasping at input shafts, er,=
straws ... Did you lube<br> the splines with anything? I know it's a sligh=
t risk given grease<br> could be slung onto the disk or cover plate--althou=
gh engine oil<br> will likely end up in the vicinity sooner or later--I've =
always done<br> it with no issues (if anybody cares, my favorite product fo=
r things<br> like this is Redline's wheel bearing grease).<br></div><div><b=
r></div><div><br> I'm probably wrong, but I don't think 'centering' is the =
issue, as I<br> think Simon was probably pretty careful about it, and I've =
never<br> heard of anybody having trouble with a centering tool or input<br=
> shaft.<br></div><div><br></div><div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 9/27/202=
1 8:02 AM, m.g.sharp--- via<br> Healeys wrote:<br></div><blockquote cite=3D=
"mid:004901d7b3b0$a1db9fa0$e592dee0$@sympatico.ca"><div class=3D"WordSectio=
n1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US;" dat=
a-mce-style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">I<br> agree with Richard =E2=
=80=93 I go through the same =E2=80=9Cmicro=E2=80=9D centering<br> process.=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-U=
S;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US;"> </span></p><div s=
tyle=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1<br> 1.0pt; padding=
: 3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;" data-mce-style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1=
E1E1<br> 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> richard may=
or <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"=
target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"><boyra=
cer466@gmail.com></a><br><b>Sent:</b> September 26, 2021 12:39 PM<br><b>=
To:</b><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@a=
lexarevel.plus.com" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan=
@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b><a=
class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca" =
target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca">m.g.sharp=
@sympatico.ca</a>; Healeys<br> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"m=
ailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:hea=
leys@autox.team.net"><healeys@autox.team.net></a><br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query</span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> =
;</p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">One suggestion: When you use th=
e<br> centering tool (plastic or otherwise), tilt the tool all<br> the way =
up then all the way down, then do the same from<br> side to side, then spli=
t the difference with the tool in<br> place when you tighten the pressure p=
late bolts. I<br> personally go through this routine at least 2 or 3 =
times<br> to make sure I am as close to the center position as<br> possible=
.</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">One question: Why do you think the<br> metal input shaft is harder =
to use than the plastic<br> tool? The input shaft is much longe=
r than the plastic<br> tool and you can get a better feel for finding the c=
enter<br> position when moving it through its range of motion as you<br> al=
ign the disc.</p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 7:42 AM Simon<br> Lachlan via H=
ealeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" data=
-mce-href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><=
br> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style=3D"border: none; border-left: solid #=
CCCCCC<br> 1.0pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm<br> 6.0pt; mar=
gin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;" data-mce-style=3D"border: none; border=
-left: solid #CCCCCC<br> 1.0pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm<br> =
6.0pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;"><div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" d=
ata-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-GB"> </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-mar=
gin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-marg=
in-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">To rev=
ert to the problem I=E2=80=99ve being<br> having with my gearbox not wantin=
g to reinstall to<br> my new clutch=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6</span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;=
" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-=
margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-m=
argin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Ble=
eding it made no difference.. It was<br> a forlorn hope as I was sure I=E2=
=80=99d not lost any fluid<br> but miracles are always welcome.</span></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-=
alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" sty=
le=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-styl=
e=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"=
EN-GB">The gearbox is on the workshop floor as<br> is the new clutch.</span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-b=
ottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bo=
ttom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mc=
e-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span la=
ng=3D"EN-GB">Before removing the new clutch I played<br> around with the AH=
Spares plastic alignment tool and<br> my spare shaft. Both went in without=
any trouble but<br> I suppose they would have anyhow unless they=E2=80=99d=
been<br> miles out?? The new clutch slides onto the shaft in<br> the gearb=
ox just as it should.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-=
top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-t=
op-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> </sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin=
-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-=
bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">See attached file=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=
Seems to me that the<br> old clutch was in pretty good shape and, with<br> =
benefit of 20/20 hindsight, one might have left well<br> alone! It=E2=80=99=
s been in there for 27 years that I know<br> of. There were/are a few discr=
epancies between the<br> old and new clutches. See attached. I don=E2=80=99=
t think<br> these would matter????</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=
=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"E=
N-GB"> </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: =
auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: a=
uto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Are there any obvio=
us steps that I<br> might have missed? Obvious, but, seemingly, not to<br> =
me!</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso=
-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-=
margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> </span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;=
" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-GB">I haven=E2=80=99t taken out the flywheel.<br> Didn=E2=
=80=99t see why? It=E2=80=99s in; it=E2=80=99s straight/vertical and<br> wo=
rks.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; ms=
o-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso=
-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> </span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: au=
to;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: aut=
o;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">People state a preference for alignment<br> with a=
spare shaft rather than the black plastic<br> tool. I can see that the met=
al shaft might be<br> somewhat more precise, but harder to use surely? </sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin=
-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-=
bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-=
mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-GB">I=E2=80=99m reluctant to reinstall and just<br> repeat the w=
hole sorry process=E2=80=A6.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-=
margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-m=
argin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&nb=
sp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso=
-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-=
margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Any suggestion?</span></p><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-al=
t: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" styl=
e=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=
=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"E=
N-GB">Thanks,</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:=
auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: =
auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Simon</span></p></=
div></div><br></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br=
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