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Re: [Healeys] Brake light switch

To: Bruce Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake light switch
From: Al Fuller via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 20:15:45 -0400
Cc: Brian Drab <bgdrab@redzone.ca>, AH Mail List <Healeys@autox.team.net>
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Hi Bruce:

I know you value originality on your car, but I recommend adding a center
high mounted third brake light. On my blue BT-7 I didn't drill holes and
just adhered it to a magnet. It's an LED unit, and quite bright.


On Tue, May 25, 2021, 7:18 PM Bruce Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com>
wrote:

> This is a timely thread, as I was just talking yesterday with the expert
> panel at Conclave about this issue after I nearly got rear ended in Big
> Bear because my brake lights are not coming on until the pedal is depress=
ed
> nearly half way.  Turns out Russ Thompson has converted several cars to a
> mechanical, pedal actuated switch with a simple bracket attached to the
> cross member/heater duct.  I will be pursuing this over Memorial Day
> weekend.
>
> Bruce Steele
> Brea, CA
> 1960 BN7
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob
> Haskell via Healeys
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 5:20 PM
> To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>; kags@shaw.ca
> Cc: Brian Drab <bgdrab@redzone.ca>; Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake light switch
>
> For some reason, "--will" was added to the end of the link Michael gave:
>
>
> https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light-Switch-Pressure-A=
ctivated,391417.html
>
> I believe that the non-servo brake light switches (screws terminal or
> lucar connectors) have a tapered thread, no copper sealing washer require=
d.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob Haskell
> Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar
>
> On 5/19/21 7:51 PM, Michael Oritt wrote:
> > This
> > link--https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light-Switch-P
> > ressure-Activated,391417.html--will
> > <https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light-Switch-Pressu
> > re-Activated,391417.html--will> take you to the Speedway site and the
> > Accel brake switch shown is touted to be American-made and useable on
> > Harleys, so perhaps this is what the original poster is looking for.
> >
> > Best--Michael Oritt
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 6:43 PM Earl Kagna via Healeys
> >
> >     Hi Brian:
> >
> >     Yes, there was a problem years ago with brake light switches.  It
> >     may have been related to a lot of people switching to silicone
> >     brake fluid.
> >
> >     I don=E2=80=99t recall anything about a Harley switch being compati=
ble,
> >     but some of us tried Volkswagen switches that worked well.  I do
> >     recall one BJ8 owner here that eventually gave up and installed a
> >     micro switch kit from a hotrodder supplier that permanently fixed
> >     the problem.
> >
> >     I have replaced 3 (or maybe 4) brake light switches in the last 2-
> >     3 years =E2=80=93 all on BJ8=E2=80=99s =E2=80=93 including on my ow=
n, and on our friend
> >     DM=E2=80=99s car, and all seems well.  The word is that the parts n=
ow
> >     being supplied are better.  These switches came in Interpart boxes
> >     and were sourced from Bob Yule at Autofarm in Ontario =E2=80=93 the=
y were
> >     not particularly expensive.
> >
> >     Be aware that there are 2 different switches used on the big
> >     Healey (6 cyl) up to and including the very early BJ8=E2=80=99s =E2=
=80=93 uses a
> >     copper sealing washer =E2=80=93 with screw type wire terminals, and=
 the
> >     later BJ8 which I believe is a taper thread seal with fast-on
> >     terminals.
> >
> >     I have not seen Roger=E2=80=99s articles that Jean mentioned, but I=
=E2=80=99ll bet
> >     that all pertinent information that is possible will be there -
> >     knowing Roger!
> >
> >     Earl Kagna
> >
> >     Victoria BC
> >
> >     BJ8, BT7 tri-carb
> >
> >     *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
> >     via Healeys
> >     *Sent:* Tuesday, May 18, 2021 4:00 PM
> >     *Subject:* [Healeys] Brake light switch
> >
> >     I recall several years ago that there was a discussion on the poor
> >     quality of Healey brake light switches. At that time several
> >     people advised that a Harley brake light switch worked and worked
> >     better than the original.
> >
> >     I tried checking the archives but I don=E2=80=99t know how to check=
 by
> >     subject rather date =E2=80=93 if it can even be done. What I need t=
o know
> >     is either the Harley part number or the years and model Harley
> >     that the switches are from. Can anyone help.
> >
> >     Brian Drab
> >
> >     BJ8
> >
> >
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<div dir=3D"auto">Hi Bruce:<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I =
know you value originality on your car, but I recommend adding a center hig=
h mounted third brake light. On my blue BT-7 I didn&#39;t drill holes and j=
ust adhered it to a magnet. It&#39;s an LED unit, and quite bright.</div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, May 25, 2021, 7:18 PM Bruce Steele &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:healeybruce@roadrunner.com";>healeybruce@roadrunner.com</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">This is a timely thread,=
 as I was just talking yesterday with the expert panel at Conclave about th=
is issue after I nearly got rear ended in Big Bear because my brake lights =
are not coming on until the pedal is depressed nearly half way.=C2=A0 Turns=
 out Russ Thompson has converted several cars to a mechanical, pedal actuat=
ed switch with a simple bracket attached to the cross member/heater duct.=
=C2=A0 I will be pursuing this over Memorial Day weekend.<br>
<br>
Bruce Steele<br>
Brea, CA<br>
1960 BN7<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Be=
half Of Bob Haskell via Healeys<br>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 5:20 PM<br>
To: Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mail=
to:kags@shaw.ca" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">kags@shaw.ca</a><br>
Cc: Brian Drab &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bgdrab@redzone.ca"; target=3D"_blank" r=
el=3D"noreferrer">bgdrab@redzone.ca</a>&gt;; Healey List &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake light switch<br>
<br>
For some reason, &quot;--will&quot; was added to the end of the link Michae=
l gave:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light-Switch-P=
ressure-Activated,391417.html" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_bla=
nk">https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light-Switch-Pressure=
-Activated,391417.html</a><br>
<br>
I believe that the non-servo brake light switches (screws terminal or lucar=
 connectors) have a tapered thread, no copper sealing washer required.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Bob Haskell<br>
Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar<br>
<br>
On 5/19/21 7:51 PM, Michael Oritt wrote:<br>
&gt; This<br>
&gt; link--<a href=3D"https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Lig=
ht-Switch-P" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.sp=
eedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light-Switch-P</a><br>
&gt; ressure-Activated,391417.html--will<br>
&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light=
-Switch-Pressu" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www=
.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light-Switch-Pressu</a><br>
&gt; re-Activated,391417.html--will&gt; take you to the Speedway site and t=
he <br>
&gt; Accel brake switch shown is touted to be American-made and useable on =
<br>
&gt; Harleys, so perhaps this is what the original poster is looking for.<b=
r>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Best--Michael Oritt<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 6:43 PM Earl Kagna via Healeys <br>
&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D=
"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healey=
s@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.n=
et</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi Brian:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Yes, there was a problem years ago with brake light=
 switches.=C2=A0 It<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0may have been related to a lot of people switching =
to silicone<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0brake fluid.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I don=E2=80=99t recall anything about a Harley swit=
ch being compatible,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0but some of us tried Volkswagen switches that worke=
d well.=C2=A0 I do<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0recall one BJ8 owner here that eventually gave up a=
nd installed a<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0micro switch kit from a hotrodder supplier that per=
manently fixed<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the problem.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I have replaced 3 (or maybe 4) brake light switches=
 in the last 2-<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A03 years =E2=80=93 all on BJ8=E2=80=99s =E2=80=93 in=
cluding on my own, and on our friend<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0DM=E2=80=99s car, and all seems well.=C2=A0 The wor=
d is that the parts now<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0being supplied are better.=C2=A0 These switches cam=
e in Interpart boxes<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0and were sourced from Bob Yule at Autofarm in Ontar=
io =E2=80=93 they were<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0not particularly expensive.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Be aware that there are 2 different switches used o=
n the big<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Healey (6 cyl) up to and including the very early B=
J8=E2=80=99s =E2=80=93 uses a<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0copper sealing washer =E2=80=93 with screw type wir=
e terminals, and the<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0later BJ8 which I believe is a taper thread seal wi=
th fast-on<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0terminals.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I have not seen Roger=E2=80=99s articles that Jean =
mentioned, but I=E2=80=99ll bet<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0that all pertinent information that is possible wil=
l be there -<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0knowing Roger!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Earl Kagna<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Victoria BC<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0BJ8, BT7 tri-carb<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*From:* Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounc=
es@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys-bounces@aut=
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&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0via Healeys<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*Sent:* Tuesday, May 18, 2021 4:00 PM<br>
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&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*Subject:* [Healeys] Brake light switch<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I recall several years ago that there was a discuss=
ion on the poor<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0quality of Healey brake light switches. At that tim=
e several<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0people advised that a Harley brake light switch wor=
ked and worked<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0better than the original.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I tried checking the archives but I don=E2=80=99t k=
now how to check by<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0subject rather date =E2=80=93 if it can even be don=
e. What I need to know<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0is either the Harley part number or the years and m=
odel Harley<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0that the switches are from. Can anyone help.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Brian Drab<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0BJ8<br>
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