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To: "'Gary Anderson'" <garyandersonmm@gmail.com>, <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] On the subject of oil leaks and racing
From: Bob Begani via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 17:50:59 -0400
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Gary:

=20

Thanks for your comments.  I had thought of such a diaper pan for my =
situation, until I can remove the transmission and try and fix the =
problem as there is a very large puddle when coming to a halt after =
driving at high speeds for a long distance.

=20

On the same note, my German friend who raced British and European cars =
mentioned that on one occasion in the middle of a race the amount of oil =
had caused the clutch to slip.  One of the pit crew suggested that there =
may be a hole in the top of the bell housing so you can pour diesel fuel =
through the hole and flush the oil out off the clutch.  The car did have =
such a hole so they were able to keep it in the race.  I looked my BJ8 =
does not have a flushing hole in the bell housing, so I must live with a =
slippage in 4th gear for a while.

=20

Meanwhile, PVC system applying negative pressure in the crankcase has =
reduced the leakage to a pint of oil every 100 miles at highway speed of =
60 MPH and above   Not acceptable on a new rebuild. Either the =
Archimedes screw is not doing its=E2=80=99 job or the gasket or?

=20

=20

67 BJ8

Bob Begani

=20

=20

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Gary =
Anderson
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 4:35 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] On the subject of oil leaks and racing

=20

Many years ago, at a panel during a Healey West Coast Meet in Oregon, I =
took the opportunity to ask Geoff Healey about the issue of oil dripping =
out of the hole in the bottom of the bell housing when the car would =
come to a halt after driving a long distance.=20

He gave us the general story that that was actually an intentional =
design feature, with the reverse archimedes screw typically doing its =
job and slinging the oil back in the sump at the rear end of the crank =
shaft. Of course, when the car came to a halt, the oil pressure would =
reverse and some oil would seep into the bell housing. To deal with =
that, there is a hole in the bottom of the bellhousing so the oil =
doesn't pool up. To make sure the hole stays open, a cotter pin is =
placed in the hole, with the legs projecting out the bottom.

=20

But then he chuckled and told the following story. When he and Donald =
were raising street versions of the first Hundreds at Le Mans -- =
generally for the international publicity benefits -- they anticipated =
that the race stewards stationed as observers in each of the pits would =
notice the pool of oil where the car had been sitting when it came in =
for a pit stop, which would have been grounds for disqualification. So =
Roger Menadue fastened small pans, contoured to be fastened under the =
bell housing hole. During the race, the pans would be stuffed with =
diapers, and that would take care of catching the oil for several stops. =
During stops when the steward wasn't looking, a mechanic would pull of a =
filled pan and fasten on a new empty pan. Worked like a charm: no oil =
leaks in the pits and, as we know, the street-spec Healeys, complete =
with bumpers and grilles, finished the race in respectable fashion, =
garnering good publicity and giving rise to the optional "Le Mans kit" =
that was available from DMHCO.

=20

And that's the rest of the story.

=20

Gary Anderson       =20


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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Gary:<o:p></o:p=
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p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Thanks for =
your comments.=C2=A0 I had thought of such a diaper pan for my =
situation, until I can remove the transmission and try and fix the =
problem as there is a very large puddle when coming to a halt after =
driving at high speeds for a long distance.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>On the same =
note, my German friend who raced British and European cars mentioned =
that on one occasion in the middle of a race the amount of oil had =
caused the clutch to slip.=C2=A0 One of the pit crew suggested that =
there may be a hole in the top of the bell housing so you can pour =
diesel fuel through the hole and flush the oil out off the clutch.=C2=A0 =
The car did have such a hole so they were able to keep it in the =
race.=C2=A0 I looked my BJ8 does not have a flushing hole in the bell =
housing, so I must live with a slippage in 4<sup>th</sup> gear for a =
while.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Meanwhile, PVC =
system applying negative pressure in the crankcase has reduced the =
leakage to a pint of oil every 100 miles at highway speed of 60 MPH and =
above =C2=A0=C2=A0Not acceptable on a new rebuild. Either the Archimedes =
screw is not doing its=E2=80=99 job or the gasket =
or?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>67 =
BJ8<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Bob =
Begani<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt'> Healeys =
&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary =
Anderson<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 30, 2021 4:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] On the subject of =
oil leaks and racing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt'>Many years ago, at a =
panel during a Healey West Coast Meet in Oregon, I took the opportunity =
to ask Geoff Healey about the issue of oil dripping out of the hole in =
the bottom of the bell housing when the car would come to a halt after =
driving a long distance.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt'>He gave us the =
general story that that was actually an intentional design feature, with =
the reverse archimedes screw typically doing its job and slinging the =
oil back in the sump at the rear end of the crank shaft. Of course, when =
the car came to a halt, the oil pressure would reverse and some oil =
would seep into the bell housing. To deal with that, there is a hole in =
the bottom of the bellhousing so the oil doesn't pool up. To make sure =
the hole stays open, a cotter pin is placed in the hole, with the legs =
projecting out the bottom.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt'>But then he chuckled =
and told the following story. When he and Donald were raising street =
versions of the first Hundreds at Le Mans -- generally for the =
international publicity benefits -- they anticipated that the race =
stewards stationed as observers in each of the pits would notice the =
pool of oil where the car had been sitting when it came in for a pit =
stop, which would have been grounds for disqualification. So Roger =
Menadue fastened small pans, contoured to be fastened under the bell =
housing hole. During the race, the pans would be stuffed with diapers, =
and that would take care of catching the oil for several stops. During =
stops when the steward wasn't looking, a mechanic would pull of a filled =
pan and fasten on a new empty pan. Worked like a charm: no oil leaks in =
the pits and, as we know, the street-spec Healeys, complete with bumpers =
and grilles, finished the race in respectable fashion, garnering good =
publicity and giving rise to the optional &quot;Le Mans kit&quot; that =
was available from DMHCO.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt'>And that's the rest =
of the story.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt'>Gary =
Anderson=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
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