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Re: [Healeys] Ebay - Bizarre

To: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ebay - Bizarre
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 19:30:06 -0800
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I had something similar happen near the beginning of the pandemic. I 
ordered what was supposed to be a 3M respirator--for chemical 
application, not for the virus--from an outfit that appeared to be in 
mainland China (a lot of these showed up on eBay about then, all trying 
to undercut each other by a couple cents). Anyway, the respirator never 
came, and from the start the seller had implored me to 'contact him, not 
eBay.' Every time I did, they gave a different tracking number, which 
appeared to originate at various places in N. America (I don't know if 
the numbers were hacked from the USPS, or were just random). A couple 
cycles of this and I contacted eBay to report a fraud; they refunded my 
money within a few days. Maybe your seller had 'connections?'

Bob

On 3/9/2021 6:27 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:
> Bob -
>
> The bizarre thing is I believe the whole thing began with a mainland 
> seller (who I purchased a small thing from) and they never delivered.  
> When they never delivered, I gave them a bad eBay rating.  That 
> dishonest seller then asked that if I change my rating to good, they 
> would refund my money.  That request made me angry, so I reported the 
> conversation to eBay that a seller was holding my refund ransom to 
> change their rating to good.  Well, why would I change the rating to 
> good to get my money back? So in effect I would give them a good 
> rating for not delivering what they promised.  Crazy.
>
> Oh well, this is the internets.  Easy enough to just make a new account.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alan
>
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:11 AM Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com 
>
>     I don't know.  Possible, they refused to give me a reason.
>
>     On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:06 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net
>
>         Alan,
>
>         I believe you live in Hong Kong; could the recent actions by
>         the CCP
>         have instigated this?
>
>         Bob
>
>         On 3/9/2021 5:59 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:
>         > All -
>         >
>         > Obviously I use ebay to purchase random parts here and
>         there, Ebay
>         > just cancelled my account after 18 years for no reason.  I've
>         > contacted them, and they offer no explanation. Totally weird....
>         >
>         > Anyone else have this issue?
>         >
>         > Cheers,
>         >
>         > Alan
>         >
>
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    I had something similar happen near the beginning of the pandemic. I
    ordered what was supposed to be a 3M respirator--for chemical
    application, not for the virus--from an outfit that appeared to be
    in mainland China (a lot of these showed up on eBay about then, all
    trying to undercut each other by a couple cents). Anyway, the
    respirator never came, and from the start the seller had implored me
    to 'contact him, not eBay.' Every time I did, they gave a different
    tracking number, which appeared to originate at various places in N.
    America (I don't know if the numbers were hacked from the USPS, or
    were just random). A couple cycles of this and I contacted eBay to
    report a fraud; they refunded my money within a few days. Maybe your
    seller had 'connections?'<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/9/2021 6:27 PM, Alan Seigrist
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Bob -
        <div><br>
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        <div>The bizarre thing is I believe the whole thing began with a
          mainland seller (who I purchased a small thing from) and they
          never delivered.  When they never delivered, I gave them a bad
          eBay rating.  That dishonest seller then asked that if I
          change my rating to good, they would refund my money.  That
          request made me angry, so I reported the conversation to eBay
          that a seller was holding my refund ransom to change their
          rating to good.  Well, why would I change the rating to good
          to get my money back? So in effect I would give them a good
          rating for not delivering what they promised.  Crazy.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Oh well, this is the internets.  Easy enough to just make a
          new account.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Cheers,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Alan</div>
      </div>
      <br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:11
          AM Alan Seigrist &lt;<a href="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com";
            moz-do-not-send="true">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">I don't know.  Possible, they refused to give
            me a reason.</div>
          <br>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at
              10:06 AM Bob Spidell &lt;<a
                href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
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            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Alan,<br>
              <br>
              I believe you live in Hong Kong; could the recent actions
              by the CCP <br>
              have instigated this?<br>
              <br>
              Bob<br>
              <br>
              On 3/9/2021 5:59 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:<br>
              &gt; All -<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Obviously I use ebay to purchase random parts here
              and there, Ebay <br>
              &gt; just cancelled my account after 18 years for no
              reason.  I've <br>
              &gt; contacted them, and they offer no explanation.
              Totally weird....<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Anyone else have this issue?<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Cheers,<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Alan<br>
              &gt;<br>
              <br>
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