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Re: [Healeys] Exhaust fitting

from [Stephen Hutchings via Healeys] [Permanent Link][Original]
To: David Nock <healeydoc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Exhaust fitting
From: Stephen Hutchings via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 15:04:19 -0500
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Thanks David,

This is very interesting to me, having become obsessed by controlling =
this phenomenon over the years.
I don=E2=80=99t doubt your advice at all, but do you know whether =
anyone=E2=80=99s ever really studied this?
I mean, something like a wind tunnel test, or the equivalent.
It=E2=80=99s a bit long winded trying to test drive various lengths, =
with just your nose as a gauge!=20
Of course, the wind direction can also make a big difference, especially =
at slow speeds.

Stephen=20

> On Mar 8, 2021, at 2:23 PM, David Nock <healeydoc@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Maybe an 1-2 inches past the bumper at that max not including the =
bumper guard.
> =20
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> From: Stephen Hutchings via Healeys <>
> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2021 8:43 AM
> To: David Nock <>
> Cc: Healey Mail List <>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Exhaust fitting
> =20
> So, what have you found to be the optimum distance? I had been told to =
get them past the bumper, which I did=E2=80=A6but maybe too far?
> =20
> Stephen, BJ8
>=20
>> On Mar 8, 2021, at 9:58 AM, David Nock via Healeys =
<healeys@autox.team.net <>> wrote:
>> =20
>> You have to be very careful extending the pipes. If they are to far =
past the muffler the exhaust will be pulled back int the cockpit=20
>>=20
>> David Nock
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>=20
>>> On Mar 7, 2021, at 8:18 PM, Bob Spidell via Healeys =
<healeys@autox.team.net <>> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BFps. The fumes you're smelling might be coming from the end =
of the exhaust; if the tip doesn't extend past the rear bumper they can =
'curl' back into the cockpit.
>>>=20
>>>> On 3/7/2021 8:02 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:
>>>> I've had success sealing gaskets and small leaks with high-temp =
silicone. Edd China used to use some kind of blue paste, but haven't =
seen any like it around here.
>>>>=20
>>>> Bob
>>>>=20
>>>>> On 3/7/2021 4:52 PM, Stephen Hutchings via Healeys wrote:
>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>=20
>>>>> After many years of service my old stainless exhaust system has =
had it, and I=E2=80=99ve decided to replace it with another stainless =
system.
>>>>> I wonder if any of you have some tips/tricks for getting a good =
gas tight fit at the joins.
>>>>> I=E2=80=99ve had my car for 45 years and I=E2=80=99ve struggled =
many times with controlling fumes. I=E2=80=99ve recently replaced the =
manifold gasket, made up down pipe gaskets out of Remflex ( a graphite =
exhaust gasket material that compresses), lengthened my old tail pipes, =
and carefully checked and sealed the firewall.
>>>>> It=E2=80=99s become a bit of an obsession for me, so, since I=E2=80=99=
m starting with a new system, I=E2=80=99m hoping to see an improvement.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Suggestions?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Stephen, BJ8
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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class=3D"">Thanks David,</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>This =
is very interesting to me, having become obsessed by controlling this =
phenomenon over the years.<div class=3D"">I don=E2=80=99t doubt your =
advice at all, but do you know whether anyone=E2=80=99s ever really =
studied this?</div><div class=3D"">I mean, something like a wind tunnel =
test, or the equivalent.</div><div class=3D"">It=E2=80=99s a bit long =
winded trying to test drive various lengths, with just your nose as a =
gauge!&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">Of course, the wind direction can also =
make a big difference, especially at slow speeds.</div><div class=3D""><br=
 class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Stephen&nbsp;<br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Mar =
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<div class=3D"">Maybe an 1-2 inches past the bumper at that max not =
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<div style=3D"font-color: black" class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b> <a =
title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net" class=3D"">Stephen Hutchings via =
Healeys</a> </div>
<div class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b> Monday, March 08, 2021 8:43 =
AM</div>
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<div class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Exhaust =
fitting</div></div></div>
<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div></div>
<div style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
Calibri; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; display: inline;" =
class=3D"">So,=20
what have you found to be the optimum distance? I had been told to get =
them past=20
the bumper, which I did=E2=80=A6but maybe too far?=20
<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"">Stephen, BJ8<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">
  <div class=3D"">On Mar 8, 2021, at 9:58 AM, David Nock via Healeys=20
  &lt;<a class=3D"">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
  <div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>
  <div class=3D""><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12px; TEXT-DECORATION: none; =
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0px; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class=3D"">You=20
  have to be very careful extending the pipes. If they are to far past =
the=20
  muffler the exhaust will be pulled back int the cockpit<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
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type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Mar 7, 2021, at 8:18 PM, Bob Spidell via =
Healeys=20
    &lt;<a class=3D"">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">=EF=BB=BFps. The fumes you're=20
    smelling might be coming from the end of the exhaust; if the tip =
doesn't=20
    extend past the rear bumper they can 'curl' back into the =
cockpit.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">
    <blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On 3/7/2021 8:02 PM, Bob =
Spidell wrote:<br class=3D"">I've=20
      had success sealing gaskets and small leaks with high-temp =
silicone. Edd=20
      China used to use some kind of blue paste, but haven't seen any =
like it=20
      around here.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Bob<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">
      <blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On 3/7/2021 4:52 PM, Stephen =
Hutchings via=20
        Healeys wrote:<br class=3D"">Hi Folks,<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">After many years of service my old=20
        stainless exhaust system has had it, and I=E2=80=99ve decided to =
replace it with=20
        another stainless system.<br class=3D"">I wonder if any of you =
have some=20
        tips/tricks for getting a good gas tight fit at the joins.<br =
class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ve had=20
        my car for 45 years and I=E2=80=99ve struggled many times with =
controlling=20
        fumes. I=E2=80=99ve recently replaced the manifold gasket, made =
up down pipe=20
        gaskets out of Remflex ( a graphite exhaust gasket material that=20=

        compresses), lengthened my old tail pipes, and carefully checked =
and=20
        sealed the firewall.<br class=3D"">It=E2=80=99s become a bit of =
an obsession for me, so,=20
        since I=E2=80=99m starting with a new system, I=E2=80=99m hoping =
to see an=20
        improvement.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Suggestions?<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Thanks,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Stephen,=20=

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