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Re: [Healeys] Exhaust header stud fix ?

To: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com>, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Exhaust header stud fix ?
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2021 07:36:40 -0800
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I always use it on thread inserts, but heat is the one thing that 
releases it. Like Bill said, it's pretty hot there, but I see no harm on 
giving it a go.

On 2/28/2021 2:44 AM, Alan Seigrist wrote:
> Bill -
>
> One question - the hole goes from one end to the other on the flange 
> of the exhaust manifold, so do I set the coil with some high strength 
> threadlocker?
>
> Best,
>
> Alan
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 1:21 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys 
>
>     I doubt there is anything non-metallic that will stand up to the
>     heat that close to the exhaust valves. Sounds like a job for a
>     helicoil.
>
>     Bill Lawrence
>     BN1 #554
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
>     *Sent:* Sunday, February 28, 2021 5:06 AM
>     *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Exhaust header stud fix ?
>     I used this stuff once to bolster the threads in a bellhousing slave
>     cylinder mount:
>
>     
> https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-442-28654-4-80ml-Thread-Stripped/dp/B000WSEUII/ref=asc_df_B000WSEUII/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312106049007&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6889728303295400308&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1014019&hvtargid=pla-440732566291&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=62149806956&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=312106049007&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6889728303295400308&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1014019&hvtargid=pla-440732566291
>
>     It held up for quite a few years, until I got a chance to put inserts
>     in; but, 300degF may not be enough for exhaust proximity. It's an
>     epoxy,
>     like JB Weld, but it uses (your) bolt to form threads, and a 'release
>     agent' to keep the bolt/stud from being glued in. I can't say for
>     sure,
>     but my gut feeling is an epoxy would gum up a tap.
>
>     Bob
>
>     On 2/27/2021 8:25 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:
>     > All -
>     >
>     > One of the three holes at the bottom of my exhaust header is
>     loose and
>     > the stud doesn't seat properly (but it does screw in).
>     >
>     > I was thinking of putting some "thermosteel" or JB "extreme
>     heat" in
>     > there then tapping it out.
>     >
>     > The threads are still there and it just needs a bit of fill to
>     tighten
>     > it up.
>     >
>     > Has anyone ever done a similar repair?  Will it last?
>     >
>     > Alan
>     >
>


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    I always use it on thread inserts, but heat is the one thing that
    releases it. Like Bill said, it's pretty hot there, but I see no
    harm on giving it a go.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/28/2021 2:44 AM, Alan Seigrist
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Bill -
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>One question - the hole goes from one end to the other on
          the flange of the exhaust manifold, so do I set the coil with
          some high strength threadlocker?</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Best,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Alan</div>
      </div>
      <br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 1:21
          PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys &lt;<a
            href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
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            <div>I doubt there is anything non-metallic that will stand
              up to the heat that close to the exhaust valves. Sounds
              like a job for a helicoil.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Bill Lawrence</div>
            <div>BN1 #554</div>
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                <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 28, 2021 5:06 AM<br>
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                  <div>I used this stuff once to bolster the threads in
                    a bellhousing slave
                    <br>
                    cylinder mount:<br>
                    <br>
                    <a 
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-442-28654-4-80ml-Thread-Stripped/dp/B000WSEUII/ref=asc_df_B000WSEUII/?tag=hyprod-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=312106049007&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=6889728303295400308&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=1014019&amp;hvtargid=pla-440732566291&amp;psc=1&amp;tag=&amp;ref=&amp;adgrpid=62149806956&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvadid=312106049007&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=6889728303295400308&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=1014019&amp;hvtargid=pla-440732566291</a><br>
                    <br>
                    It held up for quite a few years, until I got a
                    chance to put inserts <br>
                    in; but, 300degF may not be enough for exhaust
                    proximity. It's an epoxy, <br>
                    like JB Weld, but it uses (your) bolt to form
                    threads, and a 'release <br>
                    agent' to keep the bolt/stud from being glued in. I
                    can't say for sure, <br>
                    but my gut feeling is an epoxy would gum up a tap.<br>
                    <br>
                    Bob<br>
                    <br>
                    On 2/27/2021 8:25 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys
                    wrote:<br>
                    &gt; All -<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; One of the three holes at the bottom of my
                    exhaust header is loose and <br>
                    &gt; the stud doesn't seat properly (but it does
                    screw in).<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; I was thinking of putting some "thermosteel" or
                    JB "extreme heat" in <br>
                    &gt; there then tapping it out.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; The threads are still there and it just needs a
                    bit of fill to tighten <br>
                    &gt; it up.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Has anyone ever done a similar repair?  Will it
                    last?<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Alan<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    <br>
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