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Re: [Healeys] OD in 2nd gear

from [Stephen Hutchings] [Permanent Link][Original]
To: Len and/or Marge Hartnett <thehartnetts@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] OD in 2nd gear
From: Stephen Hutchings <s.hutchings@rogers.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 17:34:54 -0500
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I=E2=80=99ve always wondered why first and second were so close (BJ8).
I know, most of us end up using second to start, but that=E2=80=99s =
sometimes a bit much on a hill, and you=E2=80=99ve got to get out of =
first quickly, or your change feels like you=E2=80=99ve stayed in the =
same gear=E2=80=A6I guess what was on the parts shelf was limited!
I, too, have tried overdrive on second gear, and I agree with Michael- =
the overdrive didn=E2=80=99t seem to like it.

Stephen (BJ8)

> On Jan 25, 2021, at 5:00 PM, Len and/or Marge Hartnett =
<thehartnetts@earthlink.net> wrote:
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> I got tired of the large gap between 2nd and 3rd gear years ago.  My =
solution was to add one switch to the gearbox cover opposite the =
overdrive switch.  I bypassed the OD switch which allowed engagement of =
1st, 2nd, and incidentally, reverse.  Being that engaging reverse could =
be a disastrous no-no, I installed the other switch, a normally closed =
switch, to bypass my bypass.  Since the shifting mechanism offers the =
same type of contact surface on that side as is located on the OD switch =
side, it could be adjusted to prevent the overdrive from engaging when =
shifted into reverse.
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> See attached photos (taken in 2007)
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> (The Other) Len
> Fairfield, CA, USA
> 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031.
>      still 221,444 darn it
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell@comcast.net =
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 12:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] OD in 2nd gear
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>> Nice engineering! 2nd/OD would be great; I'm always over-revving in =
2nd trying to get 'off the line' (note I have a 3.54 rear end).
>>=20
>> On 1/24/2021 5:36 PM, Roger Grace wrote:
>>> For interest, see enclosed my Winter project to install interlocks =
using proximity sensors to enable OD on 2nd.gear. Now road tested and =
works OK.
>>> See some notes about the project and also photos embedded in the =
dox.
>>> rg
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
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class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ve always wondered why first and second were so =
close (BJ8).<div class=3D"">I know, most of us end up using second to =
start, but that=E2=80=99s sometimes a bit much on a hill, and you=E2=80=99=
ve got to get out of first quickly, or your change feels like you=E2=80=99=
ve stayed in the same gear=E2=80=A6I guess what was on the parts shelf =
was limited!</div><div class=3D"">I, too, have tried overdrive on second =
gear, and I agree with Michael- the overdrive didn=E2=80=99t seem to =
like it.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Stephen=
 (BJ8)<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jan 25, 2021, at 5:00 PM, =
Len and/or Marge Hartnett &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:thehartnetts@earthlink.net"; =
class=3D"">thehartnetts@earthlink.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D""><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">I got tired of the large gap between 2nd and 3rd gear years =
ago. &nbsp;My solution was to add one switch to the gearbox cover =
opposite the overdrive switch. &nbsp;I bypassed the OD switch which =
allowed engagement of 1st, 2nd, and incidentally, reverse. &nbsp;Being =
that engaging reverse could be a disastrous no-no, I installed the other =
switch, a normally closed switch, to bypass my bypass. &nbsp;Since the =
shifting mechanism offers the same type of contact surface on that side =
as is located on the OD switch side, it could be adjusted to prevent the =
overdrive from engaging when shifted into reverse.</span><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
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style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
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text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" class=3D"">See attached photos (taken in =
2007)</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
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none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
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none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">(The Other) =
Len</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
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none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Fairfield, =
CA, USA</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
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none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">1967 AH 3000 =
MkIII, HBJ8L39031.</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
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class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;still 221,444 darn it</span><br =
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display: inline !important;" class=3D"">----- Original Message ----- =
From: "Bob Spidell" &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; =
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display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Subject: Re: [Healeys] OD in 2nd =
gear</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
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none;" class=3D""><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
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normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">Nice =
engineering! 2nd/OD would be great; I'm always over-revving in 2nd =
trying to get 'off the line' (note I have a 3.54 rear end).<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">On 1/24/2021 5:36 PM, Roger Grace wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">For interest, see =
enclosed my Winter project to install interlocks using proximity sensors =
to enable OD on 2nd.gear. Now road tested and works OK.<br class=3D"">See =
some notes about the project and also photos embedded in the dox.<br =
class=3D"">rg<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></blockquote><br =
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