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When I was working at Alcoa's Tech Center, I had this board from my BJ8 tes=
ted. The results are :Chrysotile----30 VL%Amosite------less than 0.10 VL%C=
rocidolite---less than 0.10 VL%Non-Asbestos fibers---less than 0.10 VL%VL=
=3D Volume percent.
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: Graeme Molony <gmolony1@bigpond.com>
To: gradea1@charter.net
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 18:18:19 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] asbestos and mesothelioma
Hank Looks a bit like the white ants got into the firewall panel The rocker=
=20
panel also looks as though it needs replacement Memories Graeme=20
M( BJ8 )Affectionely=20
known as the Fred Flinstone Car
From:gradea1@charter.netSent: Friday, January 15, 2021 6:07 AMTo:'Bob Spid=
ell'Cc:'healeys@autox.team.net'Subject: Re: [Healeys] asbestos and mesothel=
ioma You=20
can, for sure, bet that the guys who cut and applied all those asbestos pan=
els=20
to our Healeys are long gone. I found the best substitute for those hairy i=
tems=20
is 5/16" HardiPlank soffit material-which also should be used carefully whe=
n=20
cutting; using a mask and gloves and eye protection as well-but it does not=
=20
flake off and looks original.=20
I lost two brother-in-laws, who were both in the Navy, to that...working i=
n=20
the boiler room. There is a super fund to pay off the surviving families, b=
ut=20
wives of the victims could get it just doing the laundry! Hank
-----------------------------------------From: "Bob Spidell"=20
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Cc:=20
Sent: Thursday January 14=20
2021 10:02:18AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] asbestos lookalike insulation=20
sheet
Steve McQueen (the actor) died of mesothelioma. Urban legend says=20
he contracted it from working in a brake shop--Healey content: I believe he=
=20
campaigned a Sprite for a while--but it's more likely he got it in the Navy=
.=20
True to character, he was a 'bad boy' and for punishment was assigned to cl=
ean=20
up parts of the ships that were insulated with asbestos. It wasn't an=20
intentional death sentence; it was before the dangers of asbestos were wide=
ly=20
known.
I caught a news item years ago about a city in Russia that got its=20
entire revenue from a nearby asbestos mine. The city is mostly abandoned no=
w,=20
for good reason, but a few stragglers stuck aroun. One was an octogenarian =
who=20
had worked in the mine most of his life but never got sick from it. Do they=
have=20
lotteries in Russia? If so, he should buy a ticket.
On 1/14/2021 8:42 AM, m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca wrote:
I believe it is a bit more than just =E2=80=9Cdust=E2=80=9D as if you=20
were cutting it. Asbestos is fiberous and the fibres are composed of=20
microscopic components that will shed with any abrasion, even simple=20
handling. The microscopic fibrils become airborne and are easily=20
inhaled. They can also adhere to your skin and clothing and be=20
transferred later, after the job is finished. I am no expert, but=20
suspect a short, once-in-a-lifetime exposure are probably not a risk, but =
why=20
take even a small risk when exposure is easily prevented. What worries me =
is when I look back to when I was a=20
kid working in a gas station in the 60s and when the mechanics did a brake=
=20
job, the first thing they did after removing the brake drums was take an a=
ir=20
hose and blow the brake dust off the shoes and backing plate etc. Of=20
course brake material had asbestos fibres in it back then and these clouds=
of=20
black asbestos-filled dust would fill the shop for us all to enjoy. Cheers=
, Mirek From:Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net>On=20
Behalf Of Jean Caron
Sent: January 14, 2021 11:16=20
AM
To:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com; 'Perry=20
Small' <healeyguy@aol.com>
Cc:healeys@autox.team.net
Subject:=20
Re: [Healeys] asbestos lookalike insulation sheet I have always been told =
that it is the dust of asbestos=20
that is dangerous, not the board itself. I recall many years ago helping a=
=20
friend with these on his Austin-Healey and he was totally afraid of even=
=20
removing these panels, he was wearing a mask, and then a shield and gloves=
,=20
that=E2=80=99s even before they had these =E2=80=9Chazmat=E2=80=9D suits. =
Meanwhile he smoked a pack=20
to a pack and half of cigarettes daily which eventually and unfortunately =
took=20
his life. Jean Sent from Mail for Windows=20
10 From:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Sent: January 14, 2021 8:47=20
AM
To:'Perry Small'
Cc:healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] asbestos=20
lookalike insulation sheet Thank you to everyone regarding=20
the sheet.
I gave it a gentle pry, per Perry's advice, and then one rather=20
less gentle.
It just popped off. Intact and without cracking or=20
breaking.
I wonder if it is asbestos. It looked to be in really good=20
condition, but it
was there when I bought the car back in '96.
Anyhow, I=20
was able to easily put the slide's 3 T-nuts in and reinstall the
sheet. All=20
suitably masked of course.
Simon
-----Original Message-----
From:=20
Perry Small <healeyguy@aol.com>
Sent: 11 January 2021=20
19:11
To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Cc:=20
healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: asbestos lookalike insulation=20
sheet
Simon
Notice the square blocks attached to the big sheet. They=20
have been known to
bond themselves to the bottom of the floor pan. Gentle=20
pry them=20
loose.
Perry
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<html><head><style> body {height: 100%; color:#000000; font-size:12pt; font=
-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;}</style></head><body><div>When I was =
working at Alcoa's Tech Center, I had this board from my BJ8 tested. =
The results are :</div><div>Chrysotile----30 VL%</div><div>Amosite------les=
s than 0.10 VL%</div><div>Crocidolite---less than 0.10 VL%</div><div>Non-As=
bestos fibers---less than 0.10 VL%</div><div>VL=3D Volume percent.<br></div=
><div>Tom</div><div><br></div><div>----- Original Message -----<br>From: Gr=
aeme Molony <gmolony1@bigpond.com><br>To: gradea1@charter.net<br>Cc: =
healeys@autox.team.net<br>Sent: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 18:18:19 -0500 (EST)<br>Su=
bject: Re: [Healeys] asbestos and mesothelioma<br></div><div><br></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial'; color: #0=
00000;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial'; color: #00=
0000;"><div>Hank</div><div> </div><div>Looks a bit like the white ants=
got into the firewall panel The rocker <br>panel also looks as though it n=
eeds replacement</div><div> </div><div>Memories</div><div> </div>=
<div style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial'; color: #000000;" data-=
mce-style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial'; color: #000000;">Graeme=
<br>M</div><div style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial'; color: #00=
0000;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial'; color: #000=
000;">( BJ8 )</div><div style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial'; col=
or: #000000;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial'; colo=
r: #000000;">Affectionely <br>known as the Fred Flinstone Car<br></div><div=
style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: 'Calibri'; =
font-weight: normal; color: #000000; font-style: normal; display: inline;" =
data-mce-style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: 'Ca=
libri'; font-weight: normal; color: #000000; font-style: normal; display: i=
nline;"><div style=3D"font: 10pt tahoma;" data-mce-style=3D"font: 10pt taho=
ma;"><div> </div><div style=3D"background: #f5f5f5;" data-mce-style=3D=
"background: #f5f5f5;"><div style=3D"font-color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"=
font-color: black;"><b>From:</b><a title=3D"gradea1@charter.net">gradea1@ch=
arter.net</a></div><div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 15, 2021 6:07 AM</div>=
<div><b>To:</b><a title=3D"bspidell@comcast.net">'Bob Spidell'</a></div><di=
v><b>Cc:</b><a title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net">'healeys@autox.team.net'</a=
></div><div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] asbestos and mesothelioma</div></=
div></div><div> </div></div><div style=3D"font-size: small; text-decor=
ation: none; font-family: 'Calibri'; font-weight: normal; color: #000000; f=
ont-style: normal; display: inline;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: small; te=
xt-decoration: none; font-family: 'Calibri'; font-weight: normal; color: #0=
00000; font-style: normal; display: inline;">You <br>can, for sure, bet tha=
t the guys who cut and applied all those asbestos panels <br>to our Healeys=
are long gone. I found the best substitute for those hairy items <br>is 5/=
16" HardiPlank soffit material-which also should be used carefully when <br=
>cutting; using a mask and gloves and eye protection as well-but it does no=
t <br>flake off and looks original. <br><div> </div><div>I lost two br=
other-in-laws, who were both in the Navy, to that...working in <br>the boil=
er room. There is a super fund to pay off the surviving families, but <br>w=
ives of the victims could get it just doing the laundry! Hank<br><div><br><=
/div><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"><br></div><p>----------------------=
-------------------</p>From: "Bob Spidell" <br>To: healeys@autox.team.net<b=
r>Cc: <br>Sent: Thursday January 14 <br>2021 10:02:18AM<br>Subject: Re: [He=
aleys] asbestos lookalike insulation <br>sheet<br><div><br></div>Steve McQu=
een (the actor) died of mesothelioma. Urban legend says <br>he contracted i=
t from working in a brake shop--Healey content: I believe he <br>campaigned=
a Sprite for a while--but it's more likely he got it in the Navy. <br>True=
to character, he was a 'bad boy' and for punishment was assigned to clean =
<br>up parts of the ships that were insulated with asbestos. It wasn't an <=
br>intentional death sentence; it was before the dangers of asbestos were w=
idely <br>known.<br><div><br></div>I caught a news item years ago about a c=
ity in Russia that got its <br>entire revenue from a nearby asbestos mine. =
The city is mostly abandoned now, <br>for good reason, but a few stragglers=
stuck aroun. One was an octogenarian who <br>had worked in the mine most o=
f his life but never got sick from it. Do they have <br>lotteries in Russia=
? If so, he should buy a ticket.<br><div><br></div><br><div class=3D"moz-ci=
te-prefix">On 1/14/2021 8:42 AM, <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated">m.g.=
sharp@sympatico.ca</a> wrote:<br></div><blockquote><div class=3D"WordSectio=
n1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>I believe it is a bit more than just =E2=
=80=9Cdust=E2=80=9D as if you <br> were cutting it. Asbestos is fiber=
ous and the fibres are composed of <br> microscopic components that will sh=
ed with any abrasion, even simple <br> handling. The microscopic fibr=
ils become airborne and are easily <br> inhaled. They can also adhere=
to your skin and clothing and be <br> transferred later, after the job is =
finished. I am no expert, but <br> suspect a short, once-in-a-lifetim=
e exposure are probably not a risk, but why <br> take even a small risk whe=
n exposure is easily prevented.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span></sp=
an> </p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>What worries me is when I look ba=
ck to when I was a <br> kid working in a gas station in the 60s and when th=
e mechanics did a brake <br> job, the first thing they did after removing t=
he brake drums was take an air <br> hose and blow the brake dust off the sh=
oes and backing plate etc. Of <br> course brake material had asbestos=
fibres in it back then and these clouds of <br> black asbestos-filled dust=
would fill the shop for us all to enjoy.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span></span> </p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Cheers, Mirek</span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span></span> </p><div><div style=3D"border-to=
p: #e1e1e1 1pt solid; border-right: medium none; border-bottom: medium none=
; border-left: medium none; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;" data-mce-style=3D"bo=
rder-top: #e1e1e1 1pt solid; border-right: medium none; border-bottom: medi=
um none; border-left: medium none; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><b><span lang=3D"en-us">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"en-us">Heal=
eys <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&g=
t;</a><b>On <br> Behalf Of</b> Jean Caron<br><b>Sent:</b> January 14, 2021 =
11:16 <br> AM<br><b>To:</b><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated">simon.lach=
lan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>; 'Perry <br> Small' <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rf=
c2396E"><healeyguy@aol.com></a><br><b>Cc:</b><a class=3D"moz-txt-link=
-abbreviated">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> <br> Re: [Heale=
ys] asbestos lookalike insulation sheet</span></p></div></div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"> </p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have always been told that it =
is the dust of asbestos <br> that is dangerous, not the board itself. I rec=
all many years ago helping a <br> friend with these on his Austin-Healey an=
d he was totally afraid of even <br> removing these panels, he was wearing =
a mask, and then a shield and gloves, <br> that=E2=80=99s even before they =
had these =E2=80=9Chazmat=E2=80=9D suits. Meanwhile he smoked a pack <br> t=
o a pack and half of cigarettes daily which eventually and unfortunately to=
ok <br> his life.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
">Jean</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from=
<a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986"; target=3D"_bl=
ank" data-mce-href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986";>Mai=
l</a> for Windows <br> 10</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p><div style=3D=
"border-top: #e1e1e1 1pt solid; border-right: medium none; border-bottom: m=
edium none; border-left: medium none; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;" data-mce-s=
tyle=3D"border-top: #e1e1e1 1pt solid; border-right: medium none; border-bo=
ttom: medium none; border-left: medium none; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><a>simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a><br=
><b>Sent:</b> January 14, 2021 8:47 <br> AM<br><b>To:</b><a>'Perry Small'</=
a><br><b>Cc:</b><a>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heale=
ys] asbestos <br> lookalike insulation sheet</p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"> </p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;" data-mce-=
style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;">Thank you to everyone regarding <br> the she=
et.<br>I gave it a gentle pry, per Perry's advice, and then one rather <br>=
less gentle.<br>It just popped off. Intact and without cracking or <br> br=
eaking.<br>I wonder if it is asbestos. It looked to be in really good <br> =
condition, but it<br>was there when I bought the car back in '96.<br>Anyhow=
, I <br> was able to easily put the slide's 3 T-nuts in and reinstall the<b=
r>sheet. All <br> suitably masked of course.<br>Simon<br></p><div><br></div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"ma=
rgin-bottom: 12pt;">-----Original Message-----<br>From: <br> Perry Small &l=
t;<a>healeyguy@aol.com</a>><br>Sent: 11 January 2021 <br> 19:11<br>To: <=
a>simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a><br>Cc: <br> <a>healeys@autox.team.n=
et</a><br>Subject: asbestos lookalike insulation <br> sheet<br></p><div><br=
></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;" data-mce-style=
=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;">Simon<br>Notice the square blocks attached to the=
big sheet. They <br> have been known to<br>bond themselves to the bottom o=
f the floor pan. Gentle <br> pry them <br>loose.<br>Perry<br></p><div><br><=
/div></div></blockquote><br></div><hr><p><br>______________________________=
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