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My BJ8 has its original, unmolested (AFAIK) driver-side (LHD) heat
shield; I try not to disturb it. I don't think it necessarily traps
water, as there's plenty of heat and air above it (it should have
spacers, IIRC). I think most cockpit heat comes out the gearbox cover;
try driving with a torn or missing shift lever boot sometime (I started
carrying a spare after having to drive a couple thousand miles with a
torn one).
I was lucky; both my Healeys have solid floor pans--the BN2 showed
superficial 'pockmarking'--but the photos I've seen of rusty floorboards
show both sides rust about the same. The worst rust comes from getting
drenched with the hood down and not thoroughly drying the carpets
afterward (the fibrous insulation--forget what it's called--might as
well be sponge).
Bob
On 1/11/2021 8:52 AM, m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca wrote:
>
> Simon, I suspect the sheet has simple ?rusted on? to the floor pan.
> Over time I am sure that lots of water seeps between this sheet and
> the floor and it is simply stuck.
>
> If is the original stuff, remember you are dealing with asbestos! I
> would be wearing a mask and eye protection and gloves handling it and
> have a large plastic bag handy to put it in. I would get rid of it,
> but if is asbestos you may have trouble finding someone to take it.
> You should not just take it to the tip as it is hazardous waste. I
> got rid of some about 10 years ago and had a heck of a time find
> someone who would take it.
>
> FYI, I have never put that heat shield above the muffler. It was
> missing when I bought the car back in ?74 and I never replaced it. I
> have not noticed the heat transfer into the cabin to any appreciable
> degree and I have a LHD car, so as the driver, I would know. I think
> that the bottom of the floorboard is better left exposed as to prevent
> moisture accumulation.
>
> I am curious to hear what others have to say on that particular heat
> shield. I have all the others in place.
>
> Cheers, MIrek
>
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of
> *simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
> *Sent:* January 11, 2021 11:33 AM
> *To:* 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Asbestos lookalike insulation sheet
>
> Hi,
>
> You will recall that I was asking about seat slides? And thank you for
> your answers.
>
> I?ve done one side. Replaced the big nuts and bolts holding the slides
> to the floor with the correct ?Tee-nuts? and the bolts holding the
> seat to the slides also.
>
> Horrific looking welds but (a) they?re strong enough (b) they?re
> hidden (c) I hope to improve with practise.
>
> Now, my car is a UK based RHD so I?ve done the driver?s side and am
> beginning on the passengers side. I was much hindered by the silencer
> (muffler?) but that came off OK. I was able to get the wretched nuts &
> bolts off without removing the insulations sheet. There were only 5!
> One had been replaced by a grommet! (Cretin!) But that sheet will have
> to come off in order to get the flat washers up against the outside of
> the floor.
>
> So?.the sheet was, apparently, held on by ? I forget ? say, 4 nuts and
> big flat washers. I took them off easily enough, BUT the sheet won?t
> drop down! It looks as if it?s entirely unsupported, no fasteners
> visible etcetc. It?s not wedged under anything. It feels like it?s
> attached to something underneath ie between the sheet and the floor.
>
> So far I?m stumped. Has anyone else had this problem. What?s going on?
> I?m trying to get my sheet together and not getting very far.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon
>
>
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My BJ8 has its original, unmolested (AFAIK) driver-side (LHD) heat
shield; I try not to disturb it. I don't think it necessarily traps
water, as there's plenty of heat and air above it (it should have
spacers, IIRC). I think most cockpit heat comes out the gearbox
cover; try driving with a torn or missing shift lever boot sometime
(I started carrying a spare after having to drive a couple thousand
miles with a torn one). <br>
<br>
I was lucky; both my Healeys have solid floor pans--the BN2 showed
superficial 'pockmarking'--but the photos I've seen of rusty
floorboards show both sides rust about the same. The worst rust
comes from getting drenched with the hood down and not thoroughly
drying the carpets afterward (the fibrous insulation--forget what
it's called--might as well be sponge).<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Simon, I suspect the sheet has simple
?rusted on? to the floor pan. Over time I am sure that lots
of water seeps between this sheet and the floor and it is
simply stuck.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If is the original stuff, remember you are
dealing with asbestos! I would be wearing a mask and eye
protection and gloves handling it and have a large plastic bag
handy to put it in. I would get rid of it, but if is asbestos
you may have trouble finding someone to take it. You should
not just take it to the tip as it is hazardous waste. I got
rid of some about 10 years ago and had a heck of a time find
someone who would take it.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">FYI, I have never put that heat shield
above the muffler. It was missing when I bought the car back
in ?74 and I never replaced it. I have not noticed the heat
transfer into the cabin to any appreciable degree and I have a
LHD car, so as the driver, I would know. I think that the
bottom of the floorboard is better left exposed as to prevent
moisture accumulation.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I am curious to hear what others have to
say on that particular heat shield. I have all the others in
place.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers, MIrek<o:p></o:p></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";><healeys-bounces@autox.team.net></a>
<b>On Behalf Of
</b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> January 11, 2021 11:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Healeys' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><healeys@autox.team.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Asbestos lookalike insulation
sheet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">You will recall that I
was asking about seat slides? And thank you for your
answers. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I?ve done one side.
Replaced the big nuts and bolts holding the slides to the
floor with the correct ?Tee-nuts? and the bolts holding the
seat to the slides also.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Horrific looking welds
but (a) they?re strong enough (b) they?re hidden (c) I hope
to improve with practise.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Now, my car is a UK
based RHD so I?ve done the driver?s side and am beginning on
the passengers side. I was much hindered by the silencer
(muffler?) but that came off OK. I was able to get the
wretched nuts & bolts off without removing the
insulations sheet. There were only 5! One had been replaced
by a grommet! (Cretin!) But that sheet will have to come off
in order to get the flat washers up against the outside of
the floor.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">So?.the sheet was,
apparently, held on by ? I forget ? say, 4 nuts and big flat
washers. I took them off easily enough, BUT the sheet won?t
drop down! It looks as if it?s entirely unsupported, no
fasteners visible etcetc. It?s not wedged under anything. It
feels like it?s attached to something underneath ie between
the sheet and the floor.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">So far I?m stumped. Has
anyone else had this problem. What?s going on? I?m trying to
get my sheet together and not getting very
far.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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