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I have used the slave battery technique that Len mentions below several tim=
es with varying results. Sometimes the dead one just remains that way! =E2=
=98=B9
Perry=20
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Len and/or Marge Hartnett
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 2:23 PM
To: AH Mail List
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Non-Healey related batteries issue
=C2=A0
Simon:=C2=A0 The most commented upon answer to the question of charging a d=
ead battery has had to do with the Optima battery.=C2=A0 I have been told b=
y a sales person that they cannot be recharged when dead.=C2=A0 Others have=
said, Yes, they can.=C2=A0 The Optima batteries use an advanced form of AG=
M (Absorbent Glass Mat) technology called Spiralcell.=C2=A0=C2=A0This absor=
bent glass mat holds acid in place by absorbing it like a sponge.=C2=A0 The=
=C2=A0process for bring a dead battery back to life involves connecting a g=
ood battery in parallel with the dead battery.=C2=A0 This sends a message t=
o the charger that there is a battery that needs charging.=C2=A0 After the=
=C2=A0dead battery reaches a few volts of charge, the good battery can be d=
isconnected and the charger should continue charging.=C2=A0=C2=A0I MAKE NO =
CLAIM THAT THIS PROCEDURE WOULD OR WOULD NOT WORK ON AN LiON=C2=A0BATTERY.=
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
(The Other) Len
Fairfield, CA, USA
1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 221,392 miles=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys=20
To: 'Healeys'=20
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 9:51 AM
Subject: [Healeys] Non-Healey related batteries issue
Some free advice would be much appreciated=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.
I am in France, so out of touch with my normal garages/suppliers etc etc=E2=
=80=A6=E2=80=A6Thus more out of touch than usual.
So, my brother-in-law has bought an electric scooter. A fine looking big th=
ing that reminds me of the Honda Spacey that my wife occasionally used abou=
t 25 years ago. A two seater.
This thing is two years old, +/-, so let=E2=80=99s say that the batteries a=
re 30 months old.=20
He bought the bike for =E2=82=AC1 so it was hardly a great investment. (Del=
ivery cost him an expensive bottle of red!).
The batteries seem to be quite dead, useless. I=E2=80=99d call that very od=
d. Apparently the PO was a bit of an ass and didn=E2=80=99t look after bike=
or batteries at all well.
Nevertheless, stone dead so soon?
I seem to recall a discussion on this list some years back that pertained t=
o similar batteries. Are they dead or merely sleeping?? Plugging in the cha=
rger does nothing. Is there not something clever that one can do to jolt th=
ese things back to life?=20
A new set of batteries is +/-=E2=82=AC1000:00 which seems a bit disproporti=
onate in the circs?
Any ideas would be gratefully received=E2=80=A6..
Thanks,
Simon
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ss=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have used the slave battery techni=
que that Len mentions below several times with varying results. Sometimes t=
he dead one just remains that way! <span style=3D'font-family:"Segoe UI Emo=
ji",sans-serif'>=E2=98=B9</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Perry </p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from <a href=3D=
"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986";>Mail</a> for Windows 10<=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style=3D'mso-element:para=
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n 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b>=
<a href=3D"mailto:thehartnetts@earthlink.net";>Len and/or Marge Hartnett</a>=
<br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, August 10, 2020 2:23 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"m=
ailto:healeys@autox.team.net">AH Mail List</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Heal=
eys] Non-Healey related batteries issue</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>=
</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB> <o:p></o=
:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Simon:&nbs=
p; The most commented upon answer to the question of charging a dead batter=
y has had to do with the Optima battery. I have been told by a sales =
person that they cannot be recharged when dead. Others have said, Yes=
, they can. The Optima batteries use an advanced form of AGM (Absorbe=
nt Glass Mat) technology called Spiralcell. This absorbent glass=
mat holds acid in place by absorbing it like a sponge. The proc=
ess for bring a dead battery back to life involves connecting a good batter=
y in parallel with the dead battery. This sends a message to the char=
ger that there is a battery that needs charging. After the dead =
battery reaches a few volts of charge, the good battery can be disconnected=
and the charger should continue charging. I MAKE NO CLAIM THAT =
THIS PROCEDURE WOULD OR WOULD NOT WORK ON AN LiON BATTERY. <o:p><=
/o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB> <o=
:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>(The=
Other) Len<br>Fairfield, CA, USA<br>1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031<o:p></o=
:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB> &nbs=
p; 221,392 miles <o:p></o:p></span></p><=
/div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB> <o:p></o:p></span><=
/p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB> <o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt=
;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right=
:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:3.=
75pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans=
-serif'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:3.75pt;background:#E4E4E4'><b><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:b=
lack'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.n=
et" title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net"><span style=3D'color:#0563C1'>Simon La=
chlan via Healeys</span></a> </span><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:3.75pt'><b><span lang=3DEN-GB style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>To:</span></b><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net"><span=
style=3D'color:#0563C1'>'Healeys'</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:3.75pt'><b><span lang=3DEN-GB=
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></b>=
<span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif=
'> Monday, August 10, 2020 9:51 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:3.75pt'><b><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Subject:</span></b><span lan=
g=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> [Heale=
ys] Non-Healey related batteries issue<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:3.75pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p> =
;</o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:3.75pt'><=
span lang=3DEN-GB>Some free advice would be much appreciated=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:3.75pt'=
><span lang=3DEN-GB>I am in France, so out of touch with my normal garages/=
suppliers etc etc=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6Thus more out of touch than usual.<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:3.75pt'><span lan=
g=3DEN-GB>So, my brother-in-law has bought an electric scooter. A fine look=
ing big thing that reminds me of the Honda Spacey that my wife occasionally=
used about 25 years ago. A two seater.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMso=
Normal style=3D'margin-left:3.75pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>This thing is two ye=
ars old, +/-, so let=E2=80=99s say that the batteries are 30 months old. <o=
:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:3.75pt'><span=
lang=3DEN-GB>He bought the bike for =E2=82=AC1 so it was hardly a great in=
vestment. (Delivery cost him an expensive bottle of red!).<o:p></o:p></span=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:3.75pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>T=
he batteries seem to be quite dead, useless. I=E2=80=99d call that very odd=
. Apparently the PO was a bit of an ass and didn=E2=80=99t look after bike =
or batteries at all well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'margin-left:3.75pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>Nevertheless, stone dead so soon=
?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:3.75pt'><s=
pan lang=3DEN-GB>I seem to recall a discussion on this list some years back=
that pertained to similar batteries. Are they dead or merely sleeping?? Pl=
ugging in the charger does nothing. Is there not something clever that one =
can do to jolt these things back to life? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D=
MsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:3.75pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>A new set of batt=
eries is +/-=E2=82=AC1000:00 which seems a bit disproportionate in the circ=
s?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:3.75pt'><=
span lang=3DEN-GB>Any ideas would be gratefully received=E2=80=A6..<o:p></o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:3.75pt'><span lang=
=3DEN-GB>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-=
left:3.75pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNo=
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