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Brakes -leak
It sounds to me like you have a leak in the brake Master Cylinder.=C2=A0 Lo=
ok for brake fluid under the floor mats on the left side of the car.
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=C2=A0 1. Re: Brakes (Bob Spidell)
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=C2=A0 3. Re: Cold Box Installation (John Harper)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 23:34:27 -0700
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brakes
You could always try rebuilding the servo and, if it works, great, if=20
not, install the imposter.
I did a lot of research before I rebuilt mine--OK, I read this list and=20
a couple forums--and it appeared the most common issue was with the=20
vacuum canister. Specifically, the rubber tube that is used to backstop=20
the leather seal in the canister was sold too long--intentionally--and=20
needed to be trimmed to an appropriate length lest the piston get stuck=20
in the canister. Also, the canister is lined with a dry lubricant that=20
wears, and I found a suitable replacement (although in hindsight I think=20
the original dry lubricant was still serviceable).? It's been a while,=20
maybe 10 years, but IIRC the canister had about 150K miles on it, and=20
both cylinders on the servo body were in serviceable condition (no=20
re-sleeving required). One thing that's hard to replace--Fred, if you=20
decide to buy new, I'll pay for shipping if you'll send your valve to=20
me--is the vacuum check valve; it's been NLA forever (my car came with a=20
plastic aftermarket valve; which looked grossly out of place in my=20
engine bay; I got a good used one from BCS).
Perry, I don't think PBE is a franchise; the one-and-only is in San=20
Jose, CA. I took the booster for my dad's '46 Chevy 2-ton truck there a=20
few years ago; great guys but the shop is an unholy mess (BF=20
everywhere). The Hispanic kid that worked on my dad's servo showed me=20
his work; he was very proud of it and had a Girling from a Jag apart on=20
the bench. The first time my dad tried out the booster he said the=20
brakes almost sent him through the windshield. I drove the truck today=20
and the brakes still work great. PBE stands behind--or in front?--of=20
their work; I got the impression they know that the failure rate is not=20
nonexistent.
I haven't found DoT5 to be any more difficult to bleed than glycols, but=20
you have to be careful not to aerate it in the process. To be sure, a=20
bleeder on the servo would be helpful (as long as it's not like the=20
bleeder on the clutch slave).
Bob
On 6/12/2020 9:35 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
> I would agree with Bob that the most likely problem is the servo.
> You can check this fairly easily by loosening off the lower 10/32 nuts=20
> and screws on the servo chest and gently prying it open a little.
> If the servo is leaking fluid will run out.
> IMHO Bob's? 50/50 success rate for rebuilds is a little optimistic ??.
> Unless you are fairly skilled you are unlikely to succeed on your=20
> first few attempts.
> Commercially I gave up rebuilding them many years ago because of the=20
> dismal success rate and started installing PBR VH44 servos, possibly=20
> still available from Healey Surgeons, which require different mount=20
> brackets and fluid lines. We never had a VH44 come-back.
> M
>
> On Fri., Jun. 12, 2020, 12:19 p.m. Bob Spidell, <bspidell@comcast.net=20
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 If a significant amount of brake fluid is leaking into the s=
ervo you
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 will get white smoke out of the tailpipes (under most runnin=
g
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 conditions). This is because the engine will suck fluid into=
the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 intake
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 manifold through the vacuum hose. The most likely cause of t=
his is
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 'gland' seal; which seals the vacuum piston--the large canis=
ter on
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 servo--from the servo's hydraulics (it has two pistons; one =
is
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 activated
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 by pedal pressure to gate air at ambient pressure into the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 canister to
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 assist a second 'master' cylinder, which powers the slave cy=
ls).
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 You can rebuild the servo yourself; I've done it once succes=
sfully,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 others report 50-50 success. I've not heard overwhelming sto=
ries of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 success with aftermarket (Lockheed, or an Australian equival=
ent)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 replacements, but some like them. They aren't apparently, a =
'drop in'
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 replacement without some fiddling, and hearsay says they're =
not as
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 effective as the Girling (putting my Nomex suit on). The hyd=
raulic
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 section of the servos is not much different from ordinary br=
ake
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 cylinders. The shop manual has an excellent explanation of t=
he theory
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 and workings of the servos; it took me several reads and som=
e
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 cogitating
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 to grok it all, but they are pretty ingenious.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 If you're not getting any white smoke, your guess is as good=
as
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 mine; I
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 have the same problem--although I haven't pulled the drums t=
o
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 check the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 rear slave cylinders (fronts are not leaking)--but since I h=
ad
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 bled them
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 before the problem occurred I'm thinking I screwed the pooch
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 somehow on
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the bleed.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Bob
>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 On 6/12/2020 8:46 AM, Fred Wescoe wrote:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > I am having issues with the brakes on my 66 BJ8.? I am new=
to
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 this BJ8
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > with boosted?brakes, but I have owned a BJ7 for many years=
.? I
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 don't
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > find any clues in the shop manual or in Norm Nock's tech t=
alk
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 manual.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > When I press the brake pedal, it slowly goes to the floor.=
I am
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 losing
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > hydraulic fluid in the reservoir but there are no apparent=
leaks
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 that
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > I can see.? There are no fluid spots on the garage floor a=
t each
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 wheel
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > and no evidence of brake fluid on the wire wheels which wo=
uld
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 indicate
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > a leak.? I have pulled each wheel and I do not see brake f=
luid
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 anywhere.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Is it possible that the fluid?is leaking into the brake
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 booster?? How
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > am I able to check that out?? If this is the case, can the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 booster be
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > repaired by me or someone else, if so, who.? If fluid is l=
eaking
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 into
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > the booster, is it? better to simply replace the booster a=
nd who
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 is a
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > good source?
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Something always?happens before what promises to be a grea=
t
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 sunny weekend.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Thanks for any help,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Fred
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2020 10:49:56 +0100
From: <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>
To: "'Healeys'" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Brakes PBR
Hi,
I forget where & with whom this started but, when I installed my PBR, I too=
k
copious notes to which he's welcome. And anyone else for that matter.
I've just been to the garage and looked at my Girling, which was still
working after I rebuilt it. It's actually sitting in the PBR's carton. So,
to the point, the Girling is still attached to its mounting brackets.
Thus, the PBR's brackets bolt straight on as direct replacements to the
Girling's. I don't recall there being any issues beyond the usual
ones..access, not having multi-jointed wrists etcetc.
Simon
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2020 10:49:54 +0100
From: John Harper <ah100register@gmail.com>
To: Ray Juncal <healeyray@yahoo.com>
Cc: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>, "Patrick & Caroline
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Quinn" <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au>,=C2=A0 Austin Healey <heale=
ys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Cold Box Installation
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CAL1Oyxe+vikhhCqZivFPYMm2eJoOVgZ0xPGVOVNCwUJycof9EA@mai=
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Ray
Mine has a different angle bracket fitted. It is about 2 inches wide at the
top where it bolts to the shroud. The upright=C2=A0 support is bent back .
My 100 Le Mans was converted when it was quite young at the factory so it
may be that it was produced by the DHMoC. I have supplied other owners who
were fitting the Le Mans kits with accurate copies.
I don't know how authentic this bracket might be other than it was fitted
when the Le Mans upgrade was carried out at the factory.
Best regards
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 at 06:01, Ray Juncal via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.ne=
t>
wrote:
> Charlie
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Here's what I did. If you leave out the brace it would pass =
as factory
> but probably not dead on. I made it from photos and the dimensions on the
> car. The first step is to bend the vertical support back toward the wheel
> well. I cut a notch and welded it but the factory just bent it. I made it
> out of 16 gauge mild steel. ( about 1/16" ) The slotted holes are 1 1/4" =
on
> center. If this is beyond your abilities any sheet metal shop can make it
> for you. You should probably make a test part with some stiff card board =
to
> get everything right. Let me know if any of this is not clear.
> Hope this helps.
> Ray Juncal
>
> On Friday, June 12, 2020, 6:59:03 PM PDT, Patrick & Caroline Quinn <
> p_cquinn@tpg.com.au> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brakes<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: <<a =
ymailto=3D"mailto:972b8e5b-c1c0-d56a-be11-e2a5af0cfea4@comcast.net"; href=3D=
"mailto:972b8e5b-c1c0-d56a-be11-e2a5af0cfea4@comcast.net";>972b8e5b-c1c0-d56=
a-be11-e2a5af0cfea4@comcast.net</a>><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-T=
ype: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"; Format=3D"flowed"<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">You could always try rebuilding the servo a=
nd, if it works, great, if <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">not, install the impo=
ster.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I did a lot of r=
esearch before I rebuilt mine--OK, I read this list and <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">a couple forums--and it appeared the most common issue was with th=
e <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">vacuum canister. Specifically, the rubber tube=
that is used to backstop <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">the leather seal in th=
e canister was sold too long--intentionally--and <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>needed to be trimmed to an appropriate length lest the piston get stuck <b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">in the canister. Also, the canister is lined with =
a dry lubricant that <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">wears, and I found a suitab=
le replacement (although in hindsight I think <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">th=
e original dry lubricant was still serviceable).? It's been a while, <br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">maybe 10 years, but IIRC the canister had about 150K m=
iles on it, and <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">both cylinders on the servo body=
were in serviceable condition (no <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">re-sleeving r=
equired). One thing that's hard to replace--Fred, if you <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">decide to buy new, I'll pay for shipping if you'll send your valve=
to <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">me--is the vacuum check valve; it's been NLA=
forever (my car came with a <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">plastic aftermarket=
valve; which looked grossly out of place in my <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
engine bay; I got a good used one from BCS).<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Perry, I don't think PBE is a franchise; the one-and=
-only is in San <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jose, CA. I took the booster for=
my dad's '46 Chevy 2-ton truck there a <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">few year=
s ago; great guys but the shop is an unholy mess (BF <br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">everywhere). The Hispanic kid that worked on my dad's servo showed me =
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">his work; he was very proud of it and had a Girl=
ing from a Jag apart on <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">the bench. The first tim=
e my dad tried out the booster he said the <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">brake=
s almost sent him through the windshield. I drove the truck today <br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">and the brakes still work great. PBE stands behind--or in=
front?--of <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">their work; I got the impression the=
y know that the failure rate is not <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">nonexistent.=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I haven't found DoT5 =
to be any more difficult to bleed than glycols, but <br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">you have to be careful not to aerate it in the process. To be sure, a <=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">bleeder on the servo would be helpful (as long as=
it's not like the <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">bleeder on the clutch slave).=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On 6/12/2020=
9:35 AM, Michael Salter wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> I would agre=
e with Bob that the most likely problem is the servo.<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">> You can check this fairly easily by loosening off the lower 10/32=
nuts <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> and screws on the servo chest and gen=
tly prying it open a little.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> If the servo is=
leaking fluid will run out.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> IMHO Bob's? 50/=
50 success rate for rebuilds is a little optimistic ??.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">> Unless you are fairly skilled you are unlikely to succeed on =
your <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> first few attempts.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">> Commercially I gave up rebuilding them many years ago because=
of the <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> dismal success rate and started ins=
talling PBR VH44 servos, possibly <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> still ava=
ilable from Healey Surgeons, which require different mount <br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">> brackets and fluid lines. We never had a VH44 come-back.<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> M<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr">> On Fri., Jun. 12, 2020, 12:19 p.m. Bob Spidell, <<a ym=
ailto=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>=
bspidell@comcast.net</a> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> <mailto:<a ymai=
lto=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bs=
pidell@comcast.net</a>>> wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">> If a significant amount of brake flu=
id is leaking into the servo you<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>  =
; will get white smoke out of the tailpipes (under most running<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">> conditions). This is because the engine =
will suck fluid into the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> intak=
e<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> manifold through the vacuum =
hose. The most likely cause of this is<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> =
the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> 'gland' seal; whi=
ch seals the vacuum piston--the large canister on<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>> the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> servo-=
-from the servo's hydraulics (it has two pistons; one is<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">> activated<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> =
by pedal pressure to gate air at ambient pressure into the<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">> canister to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
> assist a second 'master' cylinder, which powers the slav=
e cyls).<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> =
; You can rebuild the servo yourself; I've done it once successfull=
y,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> others report 50-50 success=
. I've not heard overwhelming stories of<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>&nbs=
p; success with aftermarket (Lockheed, or an Australian equivalent)=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> replacements, but some like t=
hem. They aren't apparently, a 'drop in'<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>&nbs=
p; replacement without some fiddling, and hearsay says they're not =
as<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> effective as the Girling (p=
utting my Nomex suit on). The hydraulic<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> =
; section of the servos is not much different from ordinary brake<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> cylinders. The shop manual has =
an excellent explanation of the theory<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> =
and workings of the servos; it took me several reads and some<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">> cogitating<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">> to grok it all, but they are pretty ingenious.<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> If yo=
u're not getting any white smoke, your guess is as good as<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">> mine; I<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> &=
nbsp; have the same problem--although I haven't pulled the drums to<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">> check the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
> rear slave cylinders (fronts are not leaking)--but since=
I had<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> bled them<br></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr">> before the problem occurred I'm thinking I =
screwed the pooch<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> somehow on<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> the bleed.<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> Bob<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t; On 6/12/2020 8:46 AM, Fred Wescoe wrote:<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">> > I am having issues with the brakes on my 6=
6 BJ8.? I am new to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> this BJ8<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> > with boosted?brakes, but I=
have owned a BJ7 for many years.? I<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> &=
nbsp; don't<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> > find any clu=
es in the shop manual or in Norm Nock's tech talk<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>> manual.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> &g=
t;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> > When I press the brake=
pedal, it slowly goes to the floor. I am<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>&nb=
sp; losing<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> > hydrau=
lic fluid in the reservoir but there are no apparent leaks<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">> that<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> &nbs=
p; > I can see.? There are no fluid spots on the garage floor at each<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> wheel<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>> > and no evidence of brake fluid on the wire wheels =
which would<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> indicate<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">> > a leak.? I have pulled each wheel =
and I do not see brake fluid<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> a=
nywhere.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> ><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">> > Is it possible that the fluid?is leaking =
into the brake<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> booster?? How<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> > am I able to check that ou=
t?? If this is the case, can the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>  =
; booster be<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> > repaired by=
me or someone else, if so, who.? If fluid is leaking<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">> into<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> &=
gt; the booster, is it? better to simply replace the booster and who<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">> is a<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>&=
nbsp; > good source?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> =
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> > Something always?h=
appens before what promises to be a great<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>&nb=
sp; sunny weekend.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> >=
;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> > Thanks for any help,<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> ><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; > Fred<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></div><div di=
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00<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: <<a ymailto=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@a=
lexarevel.plus.com" href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>simon=
.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: "'Healey=
s'" <<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">S=
ubject: [Healeys] Brakes PBR<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: <0000=
01d64167$ffc4c1d0$ff4e4570$@alexarevel.plus.com><br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">I forget where & with whom this started but, when I installed=
my PBR, I took<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">copious notes to which he's welco=
me. And anyone else for that matter.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">I've just been to the garage and looked at my Girling, which=
was still<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">working after I rebuilt it. It's actua=
lly sitting in the PBR's carton. So,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">to the point=
, the Girling is still attached to its mounting brackets.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thus, the PBR's brackets bolt straight =
on as direct replacements to the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Girling's. I don=
't recall there being any issues beyond the usual<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>ones..access, not having multi-jointed wrists etcetc.<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Simon<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>=
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div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2020 10:49:54 +0100<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">From: John Harper <<a ymailto=3D"mailto:ah100register@gmail.co=
m" href=3D"mailto:ah100register@gmail.com";>ah100register@gmail.com</a>><=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Ray Juncal <<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeyray=
@yahoo.com" href=3D"mailto:healeyray@yahoo.com";>healeyray@yahoo.com</a>>=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: Michael Oritt <<a ymailto=3D"mailto:micha=
el.oritt@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>michael.oritt@g=
mail.com</a>>, "Patrick & Caroline<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> &=
nbsp; Quinn" <<a ymailto=3D"mailto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au"; href=3D"ma=
ilto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au">p_cquinn@tpg.com.au</a>>, Austin Healey =
<<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:healeys@aut=
ox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subje=
ct: Re: [Healeys] Cold Box Installation<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-I=
D:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <CAL1Oyxe+<a ymailto=3D"=
mailto:vikhhCqZivFPYMm2eJoOVgZ0xPGVOVNCwUJycof9EA@mail.gmail.com"; href=3D"m=
ailto:vikhhCqZivFPYMm2eJoOVgZ0xPGVOVNCwUJycof9EA@mail.gmail.com">vikhhCqZiv=
FPYMm2eJoOVgZ0xPGVOVNCwUJycof9EA@mail.gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ray<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr">Mine has a different angle bracket fitted. It is about 2 inche=
s wide at the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">top where it bolts to the shroud. T=
he upright support is bent back .<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">My 100 Le Mans was converted when it was quite young at t=
he factory so it<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">may be that it was produced by t=
he DHMoC. I have supplied other owners who<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">were f=
itting the Le Mans kits with accurate copies.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I don't know how authentic this bracket might be ot=
her than it was fitted<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">when the Le Mans upgrade w=
as carried out at the factory.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Best regards<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 at 06:01, Ray Juncal via Healeys <<a ymailto=3D"mail=
to:healeys@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@a=
utox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> Charlie<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>=
; Here's what I did. If you leave out the brace it would pass =
as factory<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> but probably not dead on. I made =
it from photos and the dimensions on the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> car=
. The first step is to bend the vertical support back toward the wheel<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">> well. I cut a notch and welded it but the factor=
y just bent it. I made it<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> out of 16 gauge mi=
ld steel. ( about 1/16" ) The slotted holes are 1 1/4" on<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">> center. If this is beyond your abilities any sheet metal shop=
can make it<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> for you. You should probably ma=
ke a test part with some stiff card board to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>=
get everything right. Let me know if any of this is not clear.<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">> Hope this helps.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> Ray Jun=
cal<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> On Friday=
, June 12, 2020, 6:59:03 PM PDT, Patrick & Caroline Quinn <<br></div=
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