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I would first check Bob's suggestion. I've twice been caught out by needles
falling out of carb pistons.
Sometimes they slip back into place and stay there for a while. Very
devious.
M
On Fri., May 29, 2020, 7:38 a.m. Tom Felts, <Tomfelts@windstream.net> wrote=
:
> but then again, that wouldn't explain the fuel leak to the ground.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Felts <Tomfelts@windstream.net>
> To: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Sent: Fri, 29 May 2020 07:10:13 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Running problem
>
> Could be the "in-tank" sock fuel filter clogged up---happened to me years
> ago----VERY hard to find and I had to have the tank cut open to get to it=
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Sent: Fri, 29 May 2020 03:44:19 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Running problem
>
> I notice you do not have a fuel filter installed. Fit one of the
> cheap transparent plastic filters (still the best) in a visible
> place in the fuel line to the carbs. Debris from the fuel tank may
> have stuck a float valve and blocked a jet or a gauze filter
> somewhere.
>
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
> Op 29-5-2020 om 01:50 schreef Brian
> Drab:
>
>
>
> About 4 years ago I rebuilt my HD8
> carbs and the car has run great since then with no
> adjustments required or made.
>
> I put the car away for the winter in
> about November last year.
>
> In probably mid January I decided to
> take the car out. It was a gorgeous day and I had to go to
> the grocery store about a mile away. I started the car and
> it ran fine. I noted that the gas gauge read between empty
> and =C2=BC . I started of to the store, but I noticed an obvious
> smell of raw gas when I was driving. When I got to the store
> lot, I parked the car, did my shopping, and came back out.
> When I turned the key, I now noticed that the gas gauge
> moved up to dead on empty whi8ch on my car means you are
> really out of gas!. When I started the car, I got about 100
> feet when the fuel pump started hammering. I got another
> couple of feet and the car ran out of gas. Fortunately, I
> was just across the street from a gas station so I took my
> trusty gas can, went over and filled it, then came back and
> poured it in the gas tank. The car started up fine but began
> running really rough. I went another =C2=BD block into another
> store, parked the car and went inside. When I came back out
> about 15 minutes later there was a pool of gas, about
> 2-3=E2=80=99wide, under the front of the car. I started the car and
> it barely ran. I literally had to coax it home. It sounded
> like severe fuel starvation =E2=80=93 running barely on about 3
> cyclinders.
>
> There was no more smell of raw gas
> nor any fuel leak as before.
>
> When I got home, I rapped the top of
> the float bowls on each carb in caser it was a stuck float
> valve. and it seemed to run a lot better. I felt at that
> time that a float valve had stuck and probably siphoned the
> fuel out of one of float bowls through the overflow tube.
>
> Fast forward 3 months:
>
> Last night I was getting it ready to
> take it on a bit of a road trip today it and when I took it
> out, it ran very poorly =E2=80=93 again like fuel starvation but
> not as bad as before. It also popped back through the carbs
> frequently which I interpreted to be a very lean mixture
>
> I did the following:
>
> put another 3 or 4 gallons of gas in
> the tank
>
> Took the float bowls apart and
> cleaned them out =E2=80=93 there was a bit of sediment in them but
> nothing worthwhile. I also checked the floats which were
> both leak free. I also cleaned out the float bowl filters at
> the in line.
>
> I checked the Gros float valves and
> they seemed to work properly =E2=80=93 held upside down, they closed
> and opened right side up.
>
> I disconnected the fuel line at the
> fuel pump and blew air back into the tank thinking that when
> it ran out of gas, sediment in the bottom of the tank may
> have plugged the intake. It blew fine into the tank.
>
> I have 2 fuel pumps on the car =E2=80=93 the
> regular SU and a facet pump. I pulled of the fuel line at
> the float bowl and turned on the ignition. The SU pump and
> the facet pump each filled a coke bottle pretty quickly. I
> did not measure pressure. The gas looked clear and pure. I
> do not have a fuel line filter.
>
> I checked the plugs all seemed good
> and were in fact burning on the lean side.
>
> I pulled the distributor cap and it
> was nice and clean inside with no sign of carbon tracks.
>
> I have electronic ignition so there
> is nothing I can check there.
>
> I checked the timing =E2=80=93 it was right
> on.
>
> No matter what I did it didn=E2=80=99t make
> an improvement.
>
> I replaced the Gros float valves but
> it made no difference.
>
> Today I pulled the carbs (which on a
> BJ8 is no easy task) I checked the diaphrams and both were
> in good condition.
>
> Now I am stumped.
> Is it a fuel problem or something else? Can any one offer
> any suggestions?
>
> Brian Drab
>
> Vancouver B.C.
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">I would first check Bob's suggestion. I've twice =
been caught out by needles falling out of carb pistons.<div dir=3D"auto">So=
metimes they slip back into place and stay there for a while.=C2=A0 =C2=A0V=
ery devious.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M<br><div d=
ir=3D"auto"><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri., May 29, 2020, 7:38 a.m. Tom Felts, &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Tomfelts@windstream.net";>Tomfelts@windstream.net</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>but then again,=
that wouldn't explain the fuel leak to the ground.</div><div><br></div=
><div>----- Original Message -----<br>From: Tom Felts <<a href=3D"mailto=
:Tomfelts@windstream.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">Tomfelts@win=
dstream.net</a>><br>To: Kees Oudesluijs <<a href=3D"mailto:coudesluij=
s@chello.nl" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">coudesluijs@chello.nl</a>=
><br>Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>Sent: Fri, 29 May 2020 07:10:=
13 -0400 (EDT)<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Running problem<br></div><div><br>=
</div><div>Could be the "in-tank" sock fuel filter clogged up---h=
appened to me years ago----VERY hard to find and I had to have the tank cut=
open to get to it---</div><div><br></div><div>----- Original Message -----=
<br>From: Kees Oudesluijs <<a href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl"; targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">coudesluijs@chello.nl</a>><br>To: <a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">h=
ealeys@autox.team.net</a><br>Sent: Fri, 29 May 2020 03:44:19 -0400 (EDT)<br=
>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Running problem<br></div><div><br></div><p>I notice=
you do not have a fuel filter installed. Fit one of the<br> cheap transpar=
ent plastic filters (still the best) in a visible<br> place in the fuel lin=
e to the carbs. Debris from the fuel tank may<br> have stuck a float valve =
and blocked a jet or a gauze filter<br> somewhere.</p><p>Kees Oudesluijs<br=
></p><p><br></p><div>Op 29-5-2020 om 01:50 schreef Brian<br> Drab:<br></div=
><blockquote><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;lin=
e-height:115%"><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0</span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:115%"><span style=3D"col=
or:black">About 4 years ago I rebuilt my HD8<br> carbs and the car has run =
great since then with no<br> adjustments required or made.</span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:115%"><span sty=
le=3D"color:black">I put the car away for the winter in<br> about November =
last year.<br></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.000=
1pt;line-height:115%"><span style=3D"color:black">In probably mid January I=
decided to<br> take the car out. It was a gorgeous day and I had to go to<=
br> the grocery store about a mile away. I started the car and<br> it ran f=
ine. I noted that the gas gauge read between empty<br> and =C2=BC . I start=
ed of to the store, but I noticed an obvious<br> smell of raw gas when I wa=
s driving. When I got to the store<br> lot, I parked the car, did my shoppi=
ng, and came back out.=C2=A0<br> When I turned the key, I now noticed that =
the gas gauge<br> moved up to dead on empty whi8ch on my car means you are<=
br> really out of gas!. When I started the car, I got about 100<br> feet wh=
en the fuel pump started hammering. I got another<br> couple of feet and th=
e car ran out of gas. Fortunately, I<br> was just across the street from a =
gas station so I took my<br> trusty gas can, went over and filled it,=C2=A0=
then came back and<br> poured it in the gas tank. The car started up fine =
but began<br> running really rough. I went another =C2=BD block into anothe=
r<br> store, parked the car and went=C2=A0 inside. When I came back out<br>=
about 15 minutes later there was a pool of gas, about<br> 2-3=E2=80=99wide=
, under the front of the car. I started the car and<br> it barely ran. I li=
terally had to coax it home. It sounded<br> like severe fuel starvation =E2=
=80=93 running barely on about 3<br> cyclinders.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:115%"><span style=3D"colo=
r:black">There was no more smell of raw gas<br> nor any fuel leak as before=
.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-heig=
ht:115%"><span style=3D"color:black">When I got home, I rapped the top of<b=
r> the float bowls on each carb in caser it was a stuck float<br> valve. an=
d it seemed to run a lot better. I felt at that<br> time that a float valve=
had stuck and probably siphoned the<br> fuel out of one of float bowls thr=
ough the overflow tube.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bo=
ttom:.0001pt;line-height:115%"><span style=3D"color:black">Fast forward 3 m=
onths: </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;lin=
e-height:115%"><span style=3D"color:black">Last night I was getting it read=
y to<br> take it on a bit of a road trip today it and when I took it<br> ou=
t,=C2=A0 it ran very poorly =E2=80=93 again like fuel starvation but<br> no=
t as bad as before. It also popped back through the carbs<br> frequently wh=
ich I interpreted =C2=A0to be a very lean mixture </span></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:115%"><span style=3D"co=
lor:black">I did the following:</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"m=
argin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:115%"><span style=3D"color:black">put anot=
her 3 or 4 gallons of gas in<br> the tank</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:115%"><span style=3D"color:black=
">Took the float bowls apart and<br> cleaned them out =E2=80=93 there was a=
bit of sediment in them but<br> nothing worthwhile. I also checked the flo=
ats which were<br> both leak free. I also cleaned out the float bowl filter=
s at<br> the in line.<br></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-=
bottom:.0001pt;line-height:115%"><span style=3D"color:black">I checked the =
Gros float valves and<br> they seemed to work properly =E2=80=93 held upsid=
e down, they closed<br> and opened right side up.</span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:115%"><span style=3D"col=
or:black">I disconnected the fuel line at the<br> fuel pump and blew air ba=
ck into the tank thinking that when<br> it ran out of gas, sediment in the =
bottom of the tank may<br> have plugged the intake. It blew fine into the t=
ank.<br></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;li=
ne-height:115%"><span style=3D"color:black">I have 2 fuel pumps on the car =
=E2=80=93 the<br> regular SU and a facet pump. I pulled of the fuel line at=
<br> the float bowl and turned on the ignition. The SU pump and<br> the fac=
et pump each filled a coke bottle pretty=C2=A0 quickly. I<br> did not measu=
re pressure. The gas looked clear and pure. I<br> do not have a fuel line f=
ilter. </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;lin=
e-height:115%"><span style=3D"color:black">I checked the plugs all seemed g=
ood<br> and were in fact burning on the lean side.<br></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:115%"><span style=
=3D"color:black">I pulled the distributor cap and it<br> was nice and clean=
inside with no sign of carbon tracks.<br></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:115%"><span style=3D"color:blac=
k">I =C2=A0have electronic ignition so there<br> is nothing I can check the=
re.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-he=
ight:115%"><span style=3D"color:black">I checked the timing =E2=80=93 it wa=
s right<br> on. </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.0=
001pt;line-height:115%"><span style=3D"color:black">No matter what I did it=
didn=E2=80=99t make<br> an improvement.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" s=
tyle=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:115%"><span style=3D"color:black"=
>I replaced the Gros float valves but<br> it made no difference.</span></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:115%"><sp=
an style=3D"color:black">Today I pulled the carbs (which on a<br> BJ8 is no=
easy task) I checked=C2=A0 the diaphrams and both were<br> in good conditi=
on.<br></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Now I =
am stumped.<br> Is it a fuel problem or something else? Can any one offer<b=
r> any suggestions?</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:b=
lack">Brian Drab</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:blac=
k">Vancouver B.C.</span></p></div><br><fieldset></fieldset><pre>___________=
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