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I agree with Roger on the use of VR-1 sans additives. I have been using =
20W50 Valvoline VR-1 in my old Brit motorcycles and my BT7 for well over =
20 years (around when the ZDDP issues arose and I was doing a fair bit =
of motorcycle engine building) and have had no issues with it. My =
general feeling is that the oil companies do a lot of research into the =
formulation of their products and there is a wide array of product to =
choose from. It is more a matter of selecting a product from that wide =
array that works for your vehicle, not playing alchemy by making up =
custom mixes. In my opinion mixing oil products is akin to mixing =
medications; you really don=E2=80=99t know what reactions are going on. =
We rely on pharmacists to keep us on the straight and narrow with our =
meds, I think we should rely on the oil companies to do likewise with =
our lubricants.
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Just my isolated opinion, Cheers, Mirek
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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roger =
Grace
Sent: April-26-20 12:15 PM
To: Bruce Steele
Cc: 'healeylist'; wwycoffbn7@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives
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Interested to see that you feel it necessary to add additional zinc. VR1 =
already has 1300 ppm ?
Is there a consensus on what amount is actually needed? Think that you =
can have too much too ?
Am a VR1 user but don't add anything.
rg
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com>
To: wwycoffbn7@aol.com, 'healeylist' <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 08:41:40 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives
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I add a bottle of Red Line break-in additive with my annual oil change =
of Valvoline VR-1 20W50 racing oil.
=20
Bruce Steele
Brea, CA
1960 BN7
=20
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 2:48 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives
=20
Hello,
=20
Tagging on to Michael's comment on ZDDP in oils, what additives do folks =
tend to use in their oils. Products like Red Line's "Engine oil beak-in =
additive" or something from NAPA, etc.?
=20
Having seen worn cams and pitted tappets, there is a desire to keep that =
sort of wear from happening as best as one can.
=20
Bill
=20
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I agree =
with Roger on the use of VR-1 <i>sans</i> additives.=C2=A0 I have been =
using 20W50 Valvoline VR-1 in my old Brit motorcycles and my BT7 for =
well over 20 years (around when the ZDDP issues arose and I was doing a =
fair bit of motorcycle engine building) and have had no issues with it. =
=C2=A0My general feeling is that the oil companies do a lot of research =
into the formulation of their products and there is a wide array of =
product to choose from.=C2=A0 It is more a matter of selecting a product =
from that wide array that works for your vehicle, not playing alchemy by =
making up custom mixes.=C2=A0 In my opinion mixing oil products is akin =
to mixing medications; you really don=E2=80=99t know what reactions are =
going on.=C2=A0 We rely on pharmacists to keep us on the straight and =
narrow with our meds, I think we should rely on the oil companies to do =
likewise with our lubricants.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Just my =
isolated opinion, Cheers, Mirek<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Roger =
Grace<br><b>Sent:</b> April-26-20 12:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bruce =
Steele<br><b>Cc:</b> 'healeylist'; wwycoffbn7@aol.com<br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Interested to see =
that you feel it necessary to add additional zinc. VR1 already has 1300 =
ppm ?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Is there a =
consensus on what amount is actually needed? Think that you can have too =
much too ?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Am a VR1 user but =
don't add anything.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>rg<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p><=
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style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>----- Original =
Message -----<br>From: Bruce Steele =
<healeybruce@roadrunner.com><br>To: wwycoffbn7@aol.com, =
'healeylist' <Healeys@autox.team.net><br>Sent: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 =
08:41:40 -0600 (MDT)<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil =
Additives<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>I add a =
bottle of Red Line break-in additive with my annual oil change of =
Valvoline VR-1 20W50 racing oil.</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Bruce =
Steele</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Brea, =
CA</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>1960 =
BN7</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
> Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 25, 2020 =
2:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> =
[Healeys] Oil Additives</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
br>Hello,</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>T=
agging on to Michael's comment on ZDDP in oils, what additives do folks =
tend to use in their oils. Products like Red Line's "Engine =
oil beak-in additive" or something from NAPA, =
etc.?</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Having seen worn cams and pitted tappets, there is =
a desire to keep that sort of wear from happening as best as one =
can.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div>=
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