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Re: [Healeys] Differential vs BN2 OVERDRIVE

To: "'Michael Salter'" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Differential vs BN2 OVERDRIVE
From: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au>
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 17:25:19 +1100
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Hello Mike

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Can you please let us know how the magnet is fitted to the gearbox drain =
plug for a sideshift box.

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They can be purchased complete from Denis Welsh for =C2=A39.95 plus =
postage, but would be interested in doing my own.

=20

Thanks

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Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Michael Salter
Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2020 7:51 PM
To: Bob Spidell
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Differential vs BN2 OVERDRIVE

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Quite correct Bob,=20

However I believe the premature failure of the laygear needle bearings =
is caused by circulation of the microscopic chips of hardened steel that =
are shed by the 1st, reverse and laygear when people grind them =
together.=20

To minimize this I always install a magnet on the gearbox drain plug to =
supplement the overdrive one.=20

I have been restoring (replacing) the 1st gear section of MG "T" series =
gearboxes for several years for which we have been using a tougher steel =
alloy for the replacement 1st gear. To date have experienced no =
failures, even in boxes that have been raced extensively.=20

I would presume that the people doing the Healey laygears are using =
similar  material.

=20

M

=20

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 6:26 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:

Don't forget the laygear shafts; they wear at the ends due to the side=20
loads.  Hopefully, the 'uprated' DWM shaft I just installed holds up.

ps.  The only laygears I've seen advertised were 'rebuilt'--i.e. welded=20
together--is there a source now for new laygears?

bs

On 3/4/2020 9:15 PM, Michael Salter wrote:
> One consideration regarding the use of 1st gear is the durability of=20
> said gear. With a count of only 13 the straight cut teeth on the=20
> laygear tend to wear very quickly when subjected to any sort of load.
> Although laygears and 1st gears are available rebuilding a gearbox is=20
> not an inexpensive exercise so starting off gently in 2nd gear is=20
> HIGHLY recommended.
>
> M
>

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Hello Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Can you please let us =
know how the magnet is fitted to the gearbox drain plug for a sideshift =
box.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>They can be purchased =
complete from Denis Welsh for </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>=C2=A3</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>9.95 plus postage, but would be interested in =
doing my own.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Patrick =
Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Blue Mountains, =
Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael =
Salter<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 5 March 2020 7:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bob =
Spidell<br><b>Cc:</b> healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Differential vs BN2 OVERDRIVE<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Quite =
correct Bob, <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>However I believe the premature =
failure of the laygear needle bearings is caused by circulation of the =
microscopic chips of hardened steel that are shed by the 1st, reverse =
and laygear when people grind them together. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>To minimize this I always install =
a magnet on the gearbox drain plug to supplement the overdrive one. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>I have been restoring (replacing) =
the 1st gear section of MG &quot;T&quot; series gearboxes for several =
years for which we have been using a tougher steel alloy for the =
replacement 1st gear. To date have experienced no failures, even in =
boxes that have been raced extensively. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>I would presume that the people =
doing the Healey laygears are using similar&nbsp; =
material.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS"'>M<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 6:26 PM Bob Spidell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Don't forget the laygear shafts; they =
wear at the ends due to the side <br>loads.&nbsp; Hopefully, the =
'uprated' DWM shaft I just installed holds up.<br><br>ps.&nbsp; The only =
laygears I've seen advertised were 'rebuilt'--i.e. welded =
<br>together--is there a source now for new =
laygears?<br><br>bs<br><br>On 3/4/2020 9:15 PM, Michael Salter =
wrote:<br>&gt; One consideration regarding the use of 1st gear is the =
durability of <br>&gt; said gear. With a count of only 13 the straight =
cut teeth on the <br>&gt; laygear tend to wear very quickly when =
subjected to any sort of load.<br>&gt; Although laygears and 1st gears =
are available rebuilding a gearbox is <br>&gt; not an inexpensive =
exercise so starting off gently in 2nd gear is <br>&gt; HIGHLY =
recommended.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; =
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