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My 3000 does exactly the same thing with oil pressure after the new oil pum=
p. I just ignore it.
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Today's Topics:
1. Oil Pressure Relief Valve Question (jpaynepbr@cox.net)
2. Re: Does synthetic oil leak more? (Ron Fine)
3. Re: Does synthetic oil leak more? (warthodson@aol.com)
4. Re: Does synthetic oil leak more? (Bob Spidell)
5. Re: 100 Heater Tap Stem Repair (Bob Spidell)
6. FW: Re: Does synthetic oil leak more? (gradea1@charter.net)
7. Re: 100 Heater Tap Stem Repair (Michael Salter)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 09:40:45 -0800
From: <jpaynepbr@cox.net>
To: "'Healeys'" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Oil Pressure Relief Valve Question
My recently rebuilt AH 3000 with new oil pump is putting out 100 psi of oil
pressure at startup and is at an easy 50 to 60 psi at idle when heated up.
It is my understanding that the oil pressure release valve is set to not
exceed 60 psi?
I pulled it out, and my question is, is the spring supposed to sit down
inside the machined hole in the plug or is the spring supposed to sit on th=
e
lip of the plug and not go down into the hole.
Jonas
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 09:23:41 -0800
From: "Ron Fine" <ronfineesq@earthlink.net>
To: "Jean Caron" <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>, "Harold
Manifold" <manifold@telus.net>, <warthodson@aol.com>,
<050.rpl@gmail.com>, <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?
I was sure I was going to be the first one to have a leak free Healey when =
I rebuilt my engine/transmission in 2004. It was leak free for the first y=
ear or so, but, after that I have the usual drips. I keep a piece of cardb=
oard under the car to keep track of the leaks. I assume that age and use j=
ust opens up the leaks over time.
Ron Fine
From: Jean Caron
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 8:57 AM
To: Harold Manifold ; warthodson@aol.com ; 050.rpl@gmail.com ; healeys@auto=
x.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?
Harold,
It is possible to have a leak free Austin-Healey, once the oil has all drai=
ned out!!!!!!!
Jean
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Harold Manifold
Sent: January 11, 2020 10:53 AM
To: warthodson@aol.com; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?
Hello,
All of your observations are a factor. Here are some comments from an artic=
le about synthetic oil leaks:
Synthetic oil WILL NOT cause leaks. It may however make already worn-out ga=
skets/seals more evident, by leaking past them, and/or cleaning any sludge =
and other gunk that was sealing the existing leak. This is because Syntheti=
c oil has much better cleaning properties, flows much better than conventio=
nal oil, and hence also lubricates much better than conventional oil (This =
is a good thing).
I use a GL-4 synthetic gear oil in my transmission and it leaks. Believe it=
not not one of the leak mechanisms is from the interior along the bolts an=
d drips from the bolt head on the exterior. I am changing the gaskets on my=
transmission and trying bonded sealing neoprene washers on the fasteners.
I may be pursuing the impossible dream of a leak free Healey.... Harold
From: warthodson@aol.com [mailto:warthodson@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:24 AM
To: manifold@telus.net; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Does synthetic oil leak more?
I am not a leak expert, but I find this hard to understand. For there to be=
a leak there has to be a hole. Is it because the synthetic oil molecules a=
re smaller than the non-synthetic oil molecules? Given that the "holes" com=
e in different sizes this seems illogical. Is it because the synthetic oil =
is more slippery? How is that measured? How much more slippery is it?
Gary Hodson
-----Original Message-----
From: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>
To: 'R. Lindsay' <050.rpl@gmail.com>; 'Healey List' <healeys@autox.team.net=
>
Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear Axle Oil
The biggest difference you will notice with synthetic gear oils is they lea=
k
more than non-synthetic.
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Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 18:02:07 +0000 (UTC)
From: warthodson@aol.com
To: ronfineesq@earthlink.net,
vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com, manifold@telus.net,
050.rpl@gmail.com, healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?
All I am saying is I find a lot of this hard to believe. For example:?Synth=
etic oil has much better cleaning properties, flows much better than conven=
tional oil, and hence also lubricates much better than conventional oil. "M=
uch better" sounds good but is not very scientific. How much better, scient=
ifically speaking? Just changing oil regularly does what you are taking abo=
ut & none of it has to do with leaking unless you are counting on "sludge &=
gunk" to plug the leaking holes. Good Luck! Careful?rebuilding including p=
aying close attention to applying sealants where applicable, like bolt/scre=
w threads when they are in contact?with the oil will make a big difference.=
Re-tightening all the bolts after a break-in period will also assist.?Gary=
Hodson
?From: Harold Manifold?
Sent: January 11, 2020 10:53 AM
To: warthodson@aol.com; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more? ?Hello, ? All of your =
observations are a factor. Here are some comments from an article about syn=
thetic oil leaks: ? Synthetic oil WILL NOT cause leaks. It may however make=
already worn-out gaskets/seals more evident, by leaking past them, and/or =
cleaning any sludge and other gunk that was sealing the existing leak. This=
is because Synthetic oil has much better cleaning properties, flows much b=
etter than conventional oil, and hence also lubricates much better than con=
ventional oil (This is a good thing). ? I use a GL-4 synthetic gear oil in =
my transmission and it leaks. Believe it not not one of the leak mechanisms=
is from the interior along the bolts and drips from the bolt head on the e=
xterior. I am changing the gaskets on my transmission and trying bonded sea=
ling neoprene washers on the fasteners. ? I may be pursuing the impossible =
dream of a leak free Healey.... Harold ? From: warthodson@aol.com [mailto:=
warthodson@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:24 AM
To: manifold@telus.net; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Does synthetic oil leak more? I am not a leak expert, but I find t=
his hard to understand. For there to be a leak there has to be a hole. Is i=
t because the synthetic oil molecules are smaller than the non-synthetic oi=
l molecules? Given that the "holes" come in different sizes this seems illo=
gical. Is it because the synthetic oil is more slippery? How is that measur=
ed? How much more slippery is it?? Gary Hodson -----Original Message-----
From: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>
To: 'R. Lindsay' <050.rpl@gmail.com>; 'Healey List' <healeys@autox.team.net=
>
Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear Axle Oil
The biggest difference you will notice with synthetic gear oils is they lea=
k
more than non-synthetic. ?_______________________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 09:58:10 -0800
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?
I was leak free for the first 60 years ...
On 1/11/2020 9:23 AM, Ron Fine wrote:
> I was sure I was going to be the first one to have a leak free Healey
> when I rebuilt my engine/transmission in 2004. It was leak free for
> the first year or so, but, after that I have the usual drips.? I keep
> a piece of cardboard under the car to keep track of the leaks.? I
> assume that age and use just opens up the leaks over time.
> Ron Fine
> *From:* Jean Caron
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 11, 2020 8:57 AM
> *To:* Harold Manifold ; warthodson@aol.com ; 050.rpl@gmail.com ;
> healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?
>
> Harold,
>
> It is possible to have a leak free Austin-Healey, once the oil has all
> drained out!!!!!!!
>
> Jean
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> for
> Windows 10
>
> *From: *Harold Manifold
> *Sent: *January 11, 2020 10:53 AM
> *To: *warthodson@aol.com; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?
>
> Hello,
>
> All of your observations are a factor. Here are some comments from an
> article about synthetic oil leaks:
>
> Synthetic oil WILL NOT cause leaks. It may however make already
> worn-out gaskets/seals more evident, by leaking past them, and/or
> cleaning any sludge and other gunk that was sealing the existing leak.
> This is because Synthetic oil has much better cleaning properties,
> flows much better than conventional oil, and hence also lubricates
> much better than conventional oil (This is a good thing).
>
> I use a GL-4 synthetic gear oil in my transmission and it leaks.
> Believe it not not one of the leak mechanisms is from the interior
> along the bolts and drips from the bolt head on the exterior. I am
> changing the gaskets on my transmission and trying bonded sealing
> neoprene washers on the fasteners.
>
> I may be pursuing the impossible dream of a leak free Healey.... Harold
>
> *From:*warthodson@aol.com [mailto:warthodson@aol.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:24 AM
> *To:* manifold@telus.net; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Does synthetic oil leak more?
>
> I am not a leak expert, but I find this hard to understand. For there
> to be a leak there has to be a hole. Is it because the synthetic oil
> molecules are smaller than the non-synthetic oil molecules? Given that
> the "holes" come in different sizes this seems illogical. Is it
> because the synthetic oil is more slippery? How is that measured? How
> much more slippery is it?
>
> Gary Hodson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>
> To: 'R. Lindsay' <050.rpl@gmail.com>; 'Healey List'
> <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 7:55 pm
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear Axle Oil
>
>
> The biggest difference you will notice with synthetic gear oils is
> they leak
> more than non-synthetic.
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 10:07:40 -0800
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Heater Tap Stem Repair
Just to be clear, the 'brass stem' is the outlet tube?
On 1/12/2020 8:46 AM, Steven Kingsbury via Healeys wrote:
> Great to know and thank you from all the 100 owners! You never know
> when we may need this repair!
> Steven Kingsbury
>
>
> On January 12, 2020 at 7:25 AM, Michael Salter
> <michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For anyone interested I have, after several failed attempts, figured
>> out a repair scheme to repair the commonly broken off brass stem of
>> 100 heater valves.
>> I have also purchased the necessary tooling to produce new heater
>> valve knobs.
>> image.png
>> Please don't throw those old valves out ...
>> Contact me off line for more information.
>>
>> M
>>
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 10:23:10 -0800
From: gradea1@charter.net
To: "'healeys@autox.team.net'" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] FW: Re: Does synthetic oil leak more?
Food for thought
-----------------------------------------From: gradea1@charter.net
To: "warthodson@aol.com"
Cc:
Sent: Sunday January 12 2020 10:18:59AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?
Found this info by looking for the molecule size of synthetic oil.
Most conventional oil is about 2 microns and that is why we set our
bearing clearance at .002 to allow the oil to pass. Early machining
does not match what we have today with the close tolerances we can now
achieve...so the finer synthetic runs out. If I run Redline in my
Healey trans it ends up on the floor. Regular 30W stays in, and only
leaves a quarter size puddle. Used lots of good sealant but that wont
keep the new oils in if they are good soldiers:
"The main difference between synthetic motor oil and conventional
motor oil is found in their molecular structure. In a mineral oil, the
molecules come from organic, natural materials, and as we know, nature
isn't always consistent. There can sometimes be a few oddball
molecules in mineral oils. Synthetic oils [1], on the other hand, were
created by scientists in a lab. The molecules are uniform, and they
line up like good soldiers inside of your engine." See illustration
attached- Hank
----------------------------------------- From: "warthodson--- via
Healeys"
To: ronfineesq@earthlink.net,
vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com, manifold@telus.net,
050.rpl@gmail.com, healeys@autox.team.net
Cc:
Sent: Sunday January 12 2020 9:44:13AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?
All I am saying is I find a lot of this hard to believe. For
example: Synthetic oil has much better cleaning properties, flows much
better than conventional oil, and hence also lubricates much better
than conventional oil. "Much better" sounds good but is not very
scientific. How much better, scientifically speaking? Just changing
oil regularly does what you are taking about & none of it has to do
with leaking unless you are counting on "sludge & gunk" to plug the
leaking holes. Good Luck! Careful rebuilding including paying close
attention to applying sealants where applicable, like bolt/screw
threads when they are in contact with the oil will make a big
difference. Re-tightening all the bolts after a break-in period will
also assist. Gary Hodson
FROM: Harold Manifold
SENT: January 11, 2020 10:53 AM
TO: warthodson@aol.com; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net
SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more? Hello,
All of your observations are a factor. Here are some comments from an
article about synthetic oil leaks: Synthetic oil WILL NOT cause
leaks. It may however make already worn-out gaskets/seals more
evident, by leaking past them, and/or cleaning any sludge and other
gunk that was sealing the existing leak. This is because Synthetic oil
has much better cleaning properties, flows much better than
conventional oil, and hence also lubricates much better than
conventional oil (This is a good thing). I use a GL-4 synthetic
gear oil in my transmission and it leaks. Believe it not not one of
the leak mechanisms is from the interior along the bolts and drips
from the bolt head on the exterior. I am changing the gaskets on my
transmission and trying bonded sealing neoprene washers on the
fasteners. I may be pursuing the impossible dream of a leak free
Healey.... Harold FROM: warthodson@aol.com
[mailto:warthodson@aol.com]
SENT: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:24 AM
TO: manifold@telus.net; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net
SUBJECT: Does synthetic oil leak more? I am not a leak expert, but
I find this hard to understand. For there to be a leak there has to be
a hole. Is it because the synthetic oil molecules are smaller than the
non-synthetic oil molecules? Given that the "holes" come in different
sizes this seems illogical. Is it because the synthetic oil is more
slippery? How is that measured? How much more slippery is it? Gary
Hodson -----Original Message-----
From: Harold Manifold
To: 'R. Lindsay' ; 'Healey List'
Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear Axle Oil
The biggest difference you will notice with synthetic gear oils is
they leak
more than non-synthetic.
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 13:37:23 -0500
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Heater Tap Stem Repair
Message-ID:
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om>
No Bob, I'm referring to the brass shaft that the handle is mounted on.
These have a tendency to break off just below the knob where the shaft is
reduced to a 3/16" square section, particularly when Channelocks are
applied.
M
On Sun, Jan 12, 2020, 1:16 PM Bob Spidell, <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
> Just to be clear, the 'brass stem' is the outlet tube?
>
>
> On 1/12/2020 8:46 AM, Steven Kingsbury via Healeys wrote:
>
> Great to know and thank you from all the 100 owners! You never know when
> we may need this repair!
> Steven Kingsbury
>
>
> On January 12, 2020 at 7:25 AM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> <michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> For anyone interested I have, after several failed attempts, figured out =
a
> repair scheme to repair the commonly broken off brass stem of 100 heater
> valves.
> I have also purchased the necessary tooling to produce new heater valve
> knobs.
> [image: image.png]
> Please don't throw those old valves out ...
> Contact me off line for more information.
>
> M
>
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1. Oil Pressure Relief Valve Question (jpaynepbr@cox.net)<br>
2. Re: Does synthetic oil leak more? (Ron Fine)<br>
3. Re: Does synthetic oil leak more? (warthodson@aol.com)<br>
4. Re: Does synthetic oil leak more? (Bob Spidell)<br>
5. Re: 100 Heater Tap Stem Repair (Bob Spidell)<br>
6. FW: Re: Does synthetic oil leak more? (gradea1@charte=
r.net)<br>
7. Re: 100 Heater Tap Stem Repair (Michael Salter)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 09:40:45 -0800<br>
From: <jpaynepbr@cox.net><br>
To: "'Healeys'" <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: [Healeys] Oil Pressure Relief Valve Question<br>
<br>
My recently rebuilt AH 3000 with new oil pump is putting out 100 psi of oil=
<br>
pressure at startup and is at an easy 50 to 60 psi at idle when heated up.<=
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It is my understanding that the oil pressure release valve is set to not<br=
>
exceed 60 psi?<br>
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I pulled it out, and my question is, is the spring supposed to sit down<br>
inside the machined hole in the plug or is the spring supposed to sit on th=
e<br>
lip of the plug and not go down into the hole.<br>
<br>
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Jonas<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 09:23:41 -0800<br>
From: "Ron Fine" <ronfineesq@earthlink.net><br>
To: "Jean Caron" <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>=
, "Harold<br>
Manifold" <manifold@telu=
s.net>, <warthodson@aol.com>,<br>
<050.rpl@gmail.com>, <h=
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
<br>
I was sure I was going to be the first one to have a leak free Healey when =
I rebuilt my engine/transmission in 2004. It was leak free for the fi=
rst year or so, but, after that I have the usual drips. I keep a piec=
e of cardboard under the car to keep track
of the leaks. I assume that age and use just opens up the leaks over=
time.<br>
<br>
Ron Fine<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From: Jean Caron <br>
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 8:57 AM<br>
To: Harold Manifold ; warthodson@aol.com ; 050.rpl@gmail.com ; healeys@auto=
x.team.net
<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
<br>
Harold,<br>
<br>
It is possible to have a leak free Austin-Healey, once the oil has all drai=
ned out!!!!!!!<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Jean<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Sent from Mail for Windows 10<br>
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<br>
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From: Harold Manifold<br>
Sent: January 11, 2020 10:53 AM<br>
To: warthodson@aol.com; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Hello,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
All of your observations are a factor. Here are some comments from an artic=
le about synthetic oil leaks:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Synthetic oil WILL NOT cause leaks. It may however make already worn-out ga=
skets/seals more evident, by leaking past them, and/or cleaning any sludge =
and other gunk that was sealing the existing leak. This is because Syntheti=
c oil has much better cleaning properties,
flows much better than conventional oil, and hence also lubricates much be=
tter than conventional oil (This is a good thing).<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I use a GL-4 synthetic gear oil in my transmission and it leaks. Believe it=
not not one of the leak mechanisms is from the interior along the bolts an=
d drips from the bolt head on the exterior. I am changing the gaskets on my=
transmission and trying bonded
sealing neoprene washers on the fasteners.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I may be pursuing the impossible dream of a leak free Healey.... Harold<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From: warthodson@aol.com [<a href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.com";>mailto:wart=
hodson@aol.com</a>]
<br>
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:24 AM<br>
To: manifold@telus.net; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
<br>
I am not a leak expert, but I find this hard to understand. For there to be=
a leak there has to be a hole. Is it because the synthetic oil molecules a=
re smaller than the non-synthetic oil molecules? Given that the "holes=
" come in different sizes this seems
illogical. Is it because the synthetic oil is more slippery? How is that m=
easured? How much more slippery is it?
<br>
<br>
Gary Hodson<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net><br>
To: 'R. Lindsay' <050.rpl@gmail.com>; 'Healey List' <healeys@autox=
.team.net><br>
Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 7:55 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear Axle Oil<br>
<br>
<br>
The biggest difference you will notice with synthetic gear oils is they lea=
k<br>
more than non-synthetic. <br>
<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 18:02:07 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: warthodson@aol.com<br>
To: ronfineesq@earthlink.net,<br>
vintage_roadster_restoration@hot=
mail.com, manifold@telus.net,<br>
050.rpl@gmail.com, healeys@autox=
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
<br>
All I am saying is I find a lot of this hard to believe. For example:?Synth=
etic oil has much better cleaning properties, flows much better than conven=
tional oil, and hence also lubricates much better than conventional oil. &q=
uot;Much better" sounds good but is not
very scientific. How much better, scientifically speaking? Just changing o=
il regularly does what you are taking about & none of it has to do with=
leaking unless you are counting on "sludge & gunk" to plug t=
he leaking holes. Good Luck! Careful?rebuilding including
paying close attention to applying sealants where applicable, like bolt/sc=
rew threads when they are in contact?with the oil will make a big differenc=
e. Re-tightening all the bolts after a break-in period will also assist.?Ga=
ry Hodson<br>
<br>
<br>
?From: Harold Manifold?<br>
Sent: January 11, 2020 10:53 AM<br>
To: warthodson@aol.com; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more? ?Hello, ? All of your =
observations are a factor. Here are some comments from an article about syn=
thetic oil leaks: ? Synthetic oil WILL NOT cause leaks. It may however make=
already worn-out gaskets/seals
more evident, by leaking past them, and/or cleaning any sludge and other g=
unk that was sealing the existing leak. This is because Synthetic oil has m=
uch better cleaning properties, flows much better than conventional oil, an=
d hence also lubricates much better
than conventional oil (This is a good thing). ? I use a GL-4 synthetic gea=
r oil in my transmission and it leaks. Believe it not not one of the leak m=
echanisms is from the interior along the bolts and drips from the bolt head=
on the exterior. I am changing
the gaskets on my transmission and trying bonded sealing neoprene washers =
on the fasteners. ? I may be pursuing the impossible dream of a leak free H=
ealey.... Harold ? From: warthodson@aol.com [<a href=3D"mailto:wartho=
dson@aol.com">mailto:warthodson@aol.com</a>]
<br>
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:24 AM<br>
To: manifold@telus.net; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Does synthetic oil leak more? I am not a leak expert, but I find t=
his hard to understand. For there to be a leak there has to be a hole. Is i=
t because the synthetic oil molecules are smaller than the non-synthetic oi=
l molecules? Given that the "holes"
come in different sizes this seems illogical. Is it because the synthetic =
oil is more slippery? How is that measured? How much more slippery is it??&=
nbsp; Gary Hodson -----Original Message-----<br>
From: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net><br>
To: 'R. Lindsay' <050.rpl@gmail.com>; 'Healey List' <healeys@autox=
.team.net><br>
Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 7:55 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear Axle Oil <br>
The biggest difference you will notice with synthetic gear oils is they lea=
k<br>
more than non-synthetic. ?_____________________________________=
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 09:58:10 -0800<br>
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net><br>
To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
t;flowed"<br>
<br>
I was leak free for the first 60 years ...<br>
<br>
On 1/11/2020 9:23 AM, Ron Fine wrote:<br>
> I was sure I was going to be the first one to have a leak free Healey =
<br>
> when I rebuilt my engine/transmission in 2004. It was leak free for <b=
r>
> the first year or so, but, after that I have the usual drips.? I keep =
<br>
> a piece of cardboard under the car to keep track of the leaks.? I <br>
> assume that age and use just opens up the leaks over time.<br>
> Ron Fine<br>
> *From:* Jean Caron<br>
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 11, 2020 8:57 AM<br>
> *To:* Harold Manifold ; warthodson@aol.com ; 050.rpl@gmail.com ; <br>
> healeys@autox.team.net<br>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
><br>
> Harold,<br>
><br>
> It is possible to have a leak free Austin-Healey, once the oil has all=
<br>
> drained out!!!!!!!<br>
><br>
> Jean<br>
><br>
> Sent from Mail <<a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=
=3D550986">https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986</a>> for
<br>
> Windows 10<br>
><br>
> *From: *Harold Manifold<br>
> *Sent: *January 11, 2020 10:53 AM<br>
> *To: *warthodson@aol.com; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net<br=
>
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
><br>
> Hello,<br>
><br>
> All of your observations are a factor. Here are some comments from an =
<br>
> article about synthetic oil leaks:<br>
><br>
> Synthetic oil WILL NOT cause leaks. It may however make already <br>
> worn-out gaskets/seals more evident, by leaking past them, and/or <br>
> cleaning any sludge and other gunk that was sealing the existing leak.=
<br>
> This is because Synthetic oil has much better cleaning properties, <br=
>
> flows much better than conventional oil, and hence also lubricates <br=
>
> much better than conventional oil (This is a good thing).<br>
><br>
> I use a GL-4 synthetic gear oil in my transmission and it leaks. <br>
> Believe it not not one of the leak mechanisms is from the interior <br=
>
> along the bolts and drips from the bolt head on the exterior. I am <br=
>
> changing the gaskets on my transmission and trying bonded sealing <br>
> neoprene washers on the fasteners.<br>
><br>
> I may be pursuing the impossible dream of a leak free Healey.... Harol=
d<br>
><br>
> *From:*warthodson@aol.com [<a href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.com";>mailt=
o:warthodson@aol.com</a>]<br>
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:24 AM<br>
> *To:* manifold@telus.net; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net<br=
>
> *Subject:* Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
><br>
> I am not a leak expert, but I find this hard to understand. For there =
<br>
> to be a leak there has to be a hole. Is it because the synthetic oil <=
br>
> molecules are smaller than the non-synthetic oil molecules? Given that=
<br>
> the "holes" come in different sizes this seems illogical. Is=
it <br>
> because the synthetic oil is more slippery? How is that measured? How =
<br>
> much more slippery is it?<br>
><br>
> Gary Hodson<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net><br>
> To: 'R. Lindsay' <050.rpl@gmail.com>; 'Healey List' <br>
> <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
> Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 7:55 pm<br>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear Axle Oil<br>
><br>
><br>
> The biggest difference you will notice with synthetic gear oils is <br=
>
> they leak<br>
> more than non-synthetic.<br>
><br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 10:07:40 -0800<br>
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net><br>
To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Heater Tap Stem Repair<br>
d"<br>
<br>
Just to be clear, the 'brass stem' is the outlet tube?<br>
<br>
<br>
On 1/12/2020 8:46 AM, Steven Kingsbury via Healeys wrote:<br>
> Great to know and thank you from all the 100 owners! You never know <b=
r>
> when we may need this repair!<br>
> Steven Kingsbury<br>
><br>
><br>
> On January 12, 2020 at 7:25 AM, Michael Salter <br>
> <michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> For anyone interested I have, after several failed attempts, figur=
ed <br>
>> out a repair scheme to repair the commonly broken off brass stem o=
f <br>
>> 100 heater valves.<br>
>> I have also purchased the necessary tooling to produce new heater =
<br>
>> valve knobs.<br>
>> image.png<br>
>> Please don't throw those old valves out ...<br>
>> Contact me off line for more information.<br>
>><br>
>> M<br>
>><br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 10:23:10 -0800<br>
From: gradea1@charter.net<br>
To: "'healeys@autox.team.net'" <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: [Healeys] FW: Re: Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
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Food for thought<br>
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---------From: gradea1@charter.net<br>
To: "warthodson@aol.com"<br>
Cc: <br>
Sent: Sunday January 12 2020 10:18:59AM<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
<br>
Found this info by looking for t=
he molecule size of synthetic oil.<br>
Most conventional oil is about 2 microns and that is why we set our<br>
bearing clearance at .002 to allow the oil to pass. Early machining<br>
does not match what we have today with the close tolerances we can now<br>
achieve...so the finer synthetic runs out. If I run Redline in my<br>
Healey trans it ends up on the floor. Regular 30W stays in, and only<br>
leaves a quarter size puddle. Used lots of good sealant but that wont<br>
keep the new oils in if they are good soldiers: <br>
<br>
"The main difference betwee=
n synthetic motor oil and conventional<br>
motor oil is found in their molecular structure. In a mineral oil, the<br>
molecules come from organic, natural materials, and as we know, nature<br>
isn't always consistent. There can sometimes be a few oddball<br>
molecules in mineral oils. Synthetic oils [1], on the other hand, were<br>
created by scientists in a lab. The molecules are uniform, and they<br>
line up like good soldiers inside of your engine." See illustrat=
ion<br>
attached- Hank<br>
<br>
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--------- From: "warthodson--- via<br>
Healeys" <br>
To: ronfineesq@earthlink.net,<br>
vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com, manifold@telus.net,<br>
050.rpl@gmail.com, healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Cc: <br>
Sent: Sunday January 12 2020 9:44:13AM<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?<br>
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All I am saying is I find a lot of this hard to believe. For<br>
example: Synthetic oil has much better cleaning properties, flows much<br>
better than conventional oil, and hence also lubricates much better<br>
than conventional oil. "Much better" sounds good but is not very<=
br>
scientific. How much better, scientifically speaking? Just changing<br>
oil regularly does what you are taking about & none of it has to do<br>
with leaking unless you are counting on "sludge & gunk" to pl=
ug the<br>
leaking holes. Good Luck! Careful rebuilding including paying close<br>
attention to applying sealants where applicable, like bolt/screw<br>
threads when they are in contact with the oil will make a big<br>
difference. Re-tightening all the bolts after a break-in period will<br>
also assist. Gary Hodson <br>
<br>
FR=
OM: Harold Manifold <br>
SENT: January 11, 2020 10:53 AM<br>
TO: warthodson@aol.com; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net<br>
SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?  =
; Hello, <br>
All of your observations are a factor. Here are some comments from an<br>
article about synthetic oil leaks: Synthetic oil WI=
LL NOT cause<br>
leaks. It may however make already worn-out gaskets/seals more<br>
evident, by leaking past them, and/or cleaning any sludge and other<br>
gunk that was sealing the existing leak. This is because Synthetic oil<br>
has much better cleaning properties, flows much better than<br>
conventional oil, and hence also lubricates much better than<br>
conventional oil (This is a good thing). I use a GL=
-4 synthetic<br>
gear oil in my transmission and it leaks. Believe it not not one of<br>
the leak mechanisms is from the interior along the bolts and drips<br>
from the bolt head on the exterior. I am changing the gaskets on my<br>
transmission and trying bonded sealing neoprene washers on the<br>
fasteners. I may be pursuing the impossible dream o=
f a leak free<br>
Healey.... Harold FROM: warthodso=
n@aol.com<br>
[<a href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.com";>mailto:warthodson@aol.com</a>] <br>
SENT: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:24 AM<br>
TO: manifold@telus.net; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net<br>
SUBJECT: Does synthetic oil leak more? I am not a l=
eak expert, but<br>
I find this hard to understand. For there to be a leak there has to be<br>
a hole. Is it because the synthetic oil molecules are smaller than the<br>
non-synthetic oil molecules? Given that the "holes" come in diffe=
rent<br>
sizes this seems illogical. Is it because the synthetic oil is more<br>
slippery? How is that measured? How much more slippery is it? &n=
bsp; Gary<br>
Hodson -----Original Message-----<br>
From: Harold Manifold <br>
To: 'R. Lindsay' ; 'Healey List' <br>
Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 7:55 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear Axle Oil <b=
r>
The biggest difference you will notice with synthetic gear oils is<br=
>
they leak<br>
more than non-synthetic. <b=
r>
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 13:37:23 -0500<br>
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com><br>
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net><br>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Heater Tap Stem Repair<br>
Message-ID:<br>
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No Bob, I'm referring to the brass shaft that the handle is mounted on.<br>
These have a tendency to break off just below the knob where the shaft is<b=
r>
reduced to a 3/16" square section, particularly when Channelocks are<b=
r>
applied.<br>
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M<br>
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On Sun, Jan 12, 2020, 1:16 PM Bob Spidell, <bspidell@comcast.net> wro=
te:<br>
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> Just to be clear, the 'brass stem' is the outlet tube?<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 1/12/2020 8:46 AM, Steven Kingsbury via Healeys wrote:<br>
><br>
> Great to know and thank you from all the 100 owners! You never know wh=
en<br>
> we may need this repair!<br>
> Steven Kingsbury<br>
><br>
><br>
> On January 12, 2020 at 7:25 AM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail=
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> <michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
><br>
> For anyone interested I have, after several failed attempts, figured o=
ut a<br>
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er<br>
> valves.<br>
> I have also purchased the necessary tooling to produce new heater valv=
e<br>
> knobs.<br>
> [image: image.png]<br>
> Please don't throw those old valves out ...<br>
> Contact me off line for more information.<br>
><br>
> M<br>
><br>
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