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To: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water Pumps
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 12:21:15 -0800
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Looks like the AHS pump to me.  And, why are they painting them black?!

> On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net> wro=
te:
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> If I understand your question correctly you are referring to the heater pi=
pe tap to pump threaded connection?  I have not installed the pump yet, but h=
ere are a couple of pics of the pump showing the threaded nipple and the bra=
nd of the pump.  Anyone familiar with this brand?  The thread is a course ta=
pered one.  There is a zert fitting on the side of the pump about halfway al=
ong the shaft for greasing, but no instructions on how often that should be d=
one.  I'm guessing the heater pipe connection is direct instead of the origi=
nal tap that was screwed into the pump.  Not clear if the tap that Moss sell=
s will thread into this pump and I don't know if I want to spend $160+ to fi=
nd out.  Is the tap totally necessary?
> Mike MacLean
> On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 11:41:04 AM PST, Michael Salter <michaelsalte=
r@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Thanks for that Mike.
> A question, did the brass tap for the heater pipe connection fit into the t=
hread where the brass spigot is on the pump supplied?
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> M
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> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 2:05 PM Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net> w=
rote:
> This one from British Parts Northwest has been available for some time.  I=
 bought one for my BN2 a couple of years ago to replace the county brand pum=
p that was installed during the rebuild of the short block.  Don't know that=
 much about it, but it has to be better than County brand.
> Mike MacLean
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> British Parts Northwest Water Pump Uprated BN1 to BN2 - Water Pump - Engin=
e Cooling - BN1-BN2 - AUSTIN HEALEY
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> British Parts Northwest Water Pump Uprated BN1 to BN2 - Water Pump - Eng..=
.
> This is an uprated water pump from the original warm weather water pump fo=
r an Austin Healey 100/4 (BN1 to BN2)....
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> On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 7:47:25 AM PST, Michael Salter <michaelsalter=
@gmail.com> wrote:
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> As you point out Bob, a Zerk fitting with sealed bearings is a worry.
> I also notice that the plug in the body of the 100 pump is an Allen head a=
nd what's the bet that the heater nipple on that pump is required because th=
e thread is not the unusual 5/8"  16T.P.I. thread required by the original t=
ap.
> I also notice that the 100 pump rad hose connector has a bulb end.=20
> On the 6 cylinder pump I don't like the look of that short cartridge beari=
ng which, with the load imparted by a "V" belt, will almost certainly have l=
imited life because of the decreased race spread. =20
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> Why do they insist on reinventing the wheel?
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> M
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> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:40 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
> Looks like we might have a solution to the bad water pumps, i.e. County,=20=

> that have been proffered by some:
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> https://www.ahspares.co.uk/blog/new-premium-austin-healey-water-pumps.aspx=
?utm_source=3Dnewsletter&utm_medium=3Demail
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> NFI, and I have no experience with them, but there's hope.  I don't see=20=

> the correct pulley for BJ8s, though, and they appear to have both sealed=20=

> bearings and zerks(?).
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">Looks like the AHS pump to=
 me. &nbsp;And, why are they painting them black?!</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Michael MacLean &lt;=
rrengineer.mike@att.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div class=3D"ydpe2021a2ayahoo-style-wr=
ap" style=3D"font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:1=
6px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">If I understand your question=
 correctly you are referring to the heater pipe tap to pump threaded connect=
ion?&nbsp; I have not installed the pump yet, but here are a couple of pics o=
f the pump showing the threaded nipple and the brand of the pump.&nbsp; Anyo=
ne familiar with this brand?&nbsp; The thread is a course tapered one.&nbsp;=
 There is a zert fitting on the side of the pump about halfway along the sha=
ft for greasing, but no instructions on how often that should be done.&nbsp;=
 I'm guessing the heater pipe connection is direct instead of the original t=
ap that was screwed into the pump.&nbsp; Not clear if the tap that Moss sell=
s will thread into this pump and I don't know if I want to spend $160+ to fi=
nd out.&nbsp; Is the tap totally necessary?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-s=
etdir=3D"false">Mike MacLean<br></div>
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ns-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                <div>
                    On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 11:41:04 AM PST, Michael Sa=
lter &lt;michaelsalter@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"yiv2076136867"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div cl=
ass=3D"yiv2076136867gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-=
serif;font-size:small;">Thanks for that Mike.</div><div class=3D"yiv20761368=
67gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:sm=
all;">A question, did the brass tap for the heater pipe connection fit into t=
he thread where the brass spigot is on the pump supplied?</div><div class=3D=
"yiv2076136867gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;=
font-size:small;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv2076136867gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;">M<=
br clear=3D"none"></div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv2076136867=
yqt7920871936" id=3D"yiv2076136867yqt06324"><div class=3D"yiv2076136867gmail=
_quote"><div class=3D"yiv2076136867gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Jan 7, 20=
20 at 2:05 PM Michael MacLean &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:rrengin=
eer.mike@att.net">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"yiv2076136867gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div><div=
 style=3D"font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px=
;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">This one from British Parts Northwest has been avai=
lable for some time.&nbsp; I bought one for my BN2 a couple of years ago to r=
eplace the county brand pump that was installed during the rebuild of the sh=
ort block.&nbsp; Don't know that much about it, but it has to be better than=
 County brand.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacLean</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" targ=
et=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://www.bpnorthwest.com/austin-healey/bn1-bn2/engi=
ne-cooling/water-pump/water-pump-uprated-bn1to-bn2.html">British Parts North=
west Water Pump Uprated BN1 to BN2 - Water Pump - Engine Cooling - BN1-BN2 -=
 AUSTIN HEALEY</a></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv20761368=
67gmail-m_8546101653928789955ydpb037bb02enhancr_card_9007052285" style=3D"ma=
x-width:400px;font-family:Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, sans-s=
erif;"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://=
www.bpnorthwest.com/austin-healey/bn1-bn2/engine-cooling/water-pump/water-pu=
mp-uprated-bn1to-bn2.html" style=3D"text-decoration-line:none;text-decoratio=
n-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;color:rgb(0,0,0);"><table s=
tyle=3D"max-width:400px;" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"><=
tbody><tr><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" width=3D"400"><table style=3D"max-=
width:400px;border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(224,228,233=
);border-radius:2px;" width=3D"100%" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" bor=
der=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1"><table style=3D"backgro=
und-color:rgb(255,255,255);background-repeat:repeat;background-image:none;ba=
ckground-size:auto;width:100%;max-width:400px;border-radius:0px 0px 2px 2px;=
border-top:1px solid rgb(224,228,233);" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" b=
order=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" style=3D"background-c=
olor:rgb(255,255,255);padding:16px 0px 16px 12px;vertical-align:top;border-r=
adius:0px 0px 0px 2px;"></td><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" style=3D"vertic=
al-align:middle;padding:12px 24px 16px 12px;width:99%;font-family:Helvetica N=
eue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;border-radius:0px 0px 2px;"><h2 s=
tyle=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:19px;margin:0px 0px 6px;font-family:Helve=
tica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">Brit=
ish Parts Northwest Water Pump Uprated BN1 to BN2 - Water Pump - Eng...</h2>=
<p style=3D"font-size:12px;line-height:16px;margin:0px;color:rgb(151,155,167=
);">This is an uprated water pump from the original warm weather water pump f=
or an Austin Healey 100/4 (BN1 to BN2)....</p></td></tr></tbody></table></td=
></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div><div><br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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d_8693676446">
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                    On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 7:47:25 AM PST, Michael Sal=
ter &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>michaels=
alter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><div id=3D"yiv2076136867gmail-m_8546101653928789955yiv6=
784313170"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:small;">As you point out Bob, a Zerk fitting with sealed b=
earings is a worry.</div><div style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif=
;font-size:small;"> I also notice that the plug in the body of the 100 pump i=
s an Allen head and what's the bet that the heater nipple on that pump is re=
quired because the thread is not the unusual 5/8"&nbsp; 16T.P.I. thread requ=
ired by the original tap.</div><div style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans=
-serif;font-size:small;">I also notice that the 100 pump rad hose connector h=
as a bulb end. <br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"font-family:comic sans=
 ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;">On the 6 cylinder pump I don't like the lo=
ok of that short cartridge bearing which, with the load imparted by a "V" be=
lt, will almost certainly have limited life because of the decreased race sp=
read.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"></div><br clear=3D"none"><div style=3D"font-f=
amily:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;"><div></div></div><div styl=
e=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;">Why do they ins=
ist on reinventing the wheel?<br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"font-fam=
ily:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;">M<br clea=
r=3D"none"></div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div><div id=3D"yiv2076136867gmail=
-m_8546101653928789955yiv6784313170yqtfd15287"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Jan 7=
, 2020 at 9:40 AM Bob Spidell &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:bspidell@c=
omcast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div></di=
v><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div id=3D"yiv2076136867gmail-m_85461016539287=
89955yiv6784313170yqtfd23907">Looks like we might have a solution to the bad=
 water pumps, i.e. County, <br clear=3D"none">
that have been proffered by some:<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://www.ahs=
pares.co.uk/blog/new-premium-austin-healey-water-pumps.aspx?utm_source=3Dnew=
sletter&amp;utm_medium=3Demail">https://www.ahspares.co.uk/blog/new-premium-=
austin-healey-water-pumps.aspx?utm_source=3Dnewsletter&amp;utm_medium=3Demai=
l</a><br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
NFI, and I have no experience with them, but there's hope.&nbsp; I don't see=
 <br clear=3D"none">
the correct pulley for BJ8s, though, and they appear to have both sealed <br=
 clear=3D"none">
bearings and zerks(?).<br clear=3D"none">
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