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What a great photo! I have often wondered about the space between the =
distance piece and the hub, now I have a good image =E2=80=93 thanks.
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Michael, as I suggested in a reply long ago (I think in response to you =
when you started on this), I do mine as David Nock suggested with no =
grease, as the grease makes it more difficult to detect play when you =
are setting it up. However, I do put a little light oil (sometimes even =
WD40 on the bearings as I just cannot bring myself to assemble and spin =
them dry.
=20
Cheers - Mirek
=20
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Max =
Byers
Sent: December-11-19 12:12 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wednesday Rant
=20
That is the edge of the inner race of the outer bearing. I=E2=80=99ve =
attached another illustration that might add some understanding.
=20
Steve=20
=20
From: Michael MacLean [mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net]=20
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 10:53 AM
To: Max Byers
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wednesday Rant
=20
OK, I see where the shims go in your cutaway illustration, but what is =
that thickness of material behind the tabbed washer and outside of the =
outer bearing?
Mike M
=20
On Wednesday, December 11, 2019, 4:37:07 AM PST, Max Byers =
<sbyers@ec.rr.com> wrote:=20
=20
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Mike, I don't know if your installation is like a BJ8, but the shim =
thickness in my BJ8 is 0.047. Make sure your assembly is like the =
attachment.
Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC USA
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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob =
Haskell
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 5:19 AM
To: Michael MacLean; Healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wednesday Rant
Mike,
Yes, the factory parts list I have (AKD3523 shows the shims between the=20
outer bearing and the tabbed washer. A previous owner drew an arrow=20
showing the correct location. The shims go between the distance piece=20
and the outer bearing.
I've only done the shims on a few Healeys, but I've never seen that many =
shims required. Less than 0.060" thickness required.
Can you send some photos of the hardware? Are the parts from a later=20
BJ8, or earlier 3000 (different outer bearing, shims, distance piece,=20
etc)? If the later BJ8, do you have the spacer that goes between the=20
axle and the inner bearing?
Cheers,
Bob Haskell
Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar
On 12/11/19 4:42 AM, Michael MacLean wrote:
> I'd like to say fitting the splined hubs to the front spindles of =
> this disc brake conversion for my BN2 has got me seeing stars. I did=20
> not take it apart, so I have no idea what to start with for the number =
> or size of shims to torque it down with 40-70 ft lbs and still have =
free=20
> rotation but no end play. I started out with one .020 shim added to =
one=20
> .030, added to one .010 added to one .005 and one .003 shim. A total=20
> of 5 shims. The hub locks up at 40 ft lbs of torque on the nut, so I=20
> added an identical stack on top of the first five shims. We are =
talking=20
> .136 thickness in shims total and it still locks up at 40 ft lbs. =
This=20
> is where I stopped at about midnight last night. I had enough for=20
> tonight. I am going back after it tomorrow, but I am running out of=20
> shims. I have to order more to do the passenger side. Nobody told me =
> how many shims I might need when putting this together with all new=20
> parts and never having disassembled it in the first place. By the =
way,=20
> the instructions that a few of you on the list gave me for soing this=20
> job had me a little confuse. The illustration of the two bearings,=20
> distance piece, shims, tabbed washer and castellated nut assembled=20
> without the splined hub for illustration purposes has an arrow at the=20
> bottom of the illustration pointed at the surfaces between the =
distance=20
> piece and the inside of the out bearing race. It says 12 shims here! =
> You can clearly see in the picture the shims directly behind the =
tabbed=20
> washer. I started saying bad words when I saw that. I still have at=20
> least two of every size shim left, but I ma not sure even that will be =
> enough. I can tell you one thing, if I ever have to turn the rotors=20
> again in the future, you can damn bet they will be turned in place. =20
> There, I feel better now. (Not really!)
> Mie MacLean
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>What a =
great photo!=C2=A0 I have often wondered about the space between the =
distance piece and=C2=A0 the hub, now I have a good image =E2=80=93 =
thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Michael, =
as I suggested in a reply long ago (I think in response=C2=A0 to you =
when you started on this), I do mine as David Nock suggested with no =
grease, as the grease makes it more difficult to detect play when you =
are setting it up.=C2=A0 However, I do put a little light oil (sometimes =
even WD40 on the bearings as I just cannot bring myself to assemble and =
spin them dry.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Cheers - =
Mirek<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF =
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lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Max =
Byers<br><b>Sent:</b> December-11-19 12:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Wednesday =
Rant<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>That is the edge of the inner race of the outer bearing. =
I=E2=80=99ve attached another illustration that might add some =
understanding.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Steve <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
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</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Michael =
MacLean [mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, =
December 11, 2019 10:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> Max Byers<br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [Healeys] Wednesday Rant<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>OK, I see where the shims go in =
your cutaway illustration, but what is that thickness of material behind =
the tabbed washer and outside of the outer =
bearing?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Mike M<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"yahoo_quoted_6549929248"><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>On Wednesday, December 11, 2019, 4:37:07 AM PST, Max Byers =
<sbyers@ec.rr.com> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>Mike, I don't know if your installation is like a BJ8, but the shim =
thickness in my BJ8 is 0.047. Make sure your assembly is like the =
attachment.<br><br>Steve Byers<br>HBJ8L/36666<br>BJ8 Registry<br>AHCA =
Delegate at Large<br>Havelock, NC USA<br><br>-----Original =
Message-----<br>From: Healeys [mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>healeys-bounces@autox.team=
.net</a>] On Behalf Of Bob Haskell<br>Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 =
5:19 AM<br>To: Michael MacLean; Healeys<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] =
Wednesday Rant<br><br>Mike,<br><br>Yes, the factory parts list I have =
(AKD3523 shows the shims between the <br>outer bearing and the tabbed =
washer. A previous owner drew an arrow <br>showing the correct =
location. The shims go between the distance piece <br>and the =
outer bearing.<br><br>I've only done the shims on a few Healeys, but =
I've never seen that many <br>shims required. Less than =
0.060" thickness required.<br><br>Can you send some photos of the =
hardware? Are the parts from a later <br>BJ8, or earlier 3000 =
(different outer bearing, shims, distance piece, <br>etc)? If the =
later BJ8, do you have the spacer that goes between the <br>axle and the =
inner bearing?<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Bob Haskell<br>Austin Healey 3000 =
BN7/BT7 registrar<br><br>On 12/11/19 4:42 AM, Michael MacLean =
wrote:<br>> I'd like to say fitting the splined =
hubs to the front spindles of <br>> this disc brake conversion for my =
BN2 has got me seeing stars. I did <br>> not take it apart, so =
I have no idea what to start with for the number <br>> or size of =
shims to torque it down with 40-70 ft lbs and still have free <br>> =
rotation but no end play. I started out with one .020 shim added =
to one <br>> .030, added to one .010 added to one .005 and one .003 =
shim. A total <br>> of 5 shims. The hub locks up at 40 ft =
lbs of torque on the nut, so I <br>> added an identical stack on top =
of the first five shims. We are talking <br>> .136 thickness in =
shims total and it still locks up at 40 ft lbs. This <br>> is =
where I stopped at about midnight last night. I had enough for =
<br>> tonight. I am going back after it tomorrow, but I am =
running out of <br>> shims. I have to order more to do the =
passenger side. Nobody told me <br>> how many shims I might =
need when putting this together with all new <br>> parts and never =
having disassembled it in the first place. By the way, <br>> =
the instructions that a few of you on the list gave me for soing this =
<br>> job had me a little confuse. The illustration of the two =
bearings, <br>> distance piece, shims, tabbed washer and castellated =
nut assembled <br>> without the splined hub for illustration purposes =
has an arrow at the <br>> bottom of the illustration pointed at the =
surfaces between the distance <br>> piece and the inside of the out =
bearing race. It says 12 shims here! <br>> You can =
clearly see in the picture the shims directly behind the tabbed <br>> =
washer. I started saying bad words when I saw that. I still =
have at <br>> least two of every size shim left, but I ma not sure =
even that will be <br>> enough. I can tell you one thing, =
if I ever have to turn the rotors <br>> again in the future, you can =
damn bet they will be turned in place. <br>> There, I feel =
better now. (Not really!)<br>> Mie MacLean<br>> <br>> =
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