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To: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 19:39:44 -0400
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
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Hi Patrick--

I now understand and I believe these pieces correspond to the two-pieces
that make up part #70 in the Moss catalogue, correct?
https://mossmotors.com/austin-healey-100-100-6-3000/body-panels-structure/i=
nner-body-panels-bn1-bn2

I removed the vertical divider on my 100 in order to mount a pusher fan to
the cross-members, and though you may be correct that esthetics played no
part in the inclusion of the piece its absence does make things look a bit
cheesy when viewed from the side.

Best--Michael O

On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 7:11 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn <
p_cquinn@tpg.com.au> wrote:

> Hello Michael
>
>
>
> In all the four-cylinder production cars there is a single horizontal and
> a single vertical metal piece that serves the main purpose of ensuring th=
at
> the air that comes in through the grille goes through the radiator.
>
>
>
> That the vertical piece also prevents being able to see from one wheel
> opening to the other is purely secondary.
>
>
>
> Have a look at this page from the AH Spares website and it=E2=80=99s numb=
ers 68
> and 69 on the right hand side.
>
>
>
> https://www.ahspares.co.uk/big-healey/inner-body-panels-ibp101-to-ibp286a=
/
>
>
>
> There is no such similar horizontal fitting on the production six-cylinde=
r
> cars so that a lot of the air that comes through the grille escapes below
> the radiator and serves no worthwhile purpose.
>
>
>
> Hoo Roo
>
>
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> Blue Mountains, Australia
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 31 October 2019 9:52 AM
> *To:* Patrick & Caroline Quinn
> *Cc:* Robert Begani; Austin Healey
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel
>
>
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
> I have never seen anything re a "shovel" either standard or optional to
> 100's
>
> Can you expand on this?
>
>
>
> i was always of the impression that the purpose of the vertical divider
> was esthetic to prevent one's seeing through the opposite wheel opening
> when a car was viewed from the side.
>
>
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 4:54 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn <
> p_cquinn@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> Such a fitting was standard to the four-cylinder cars including a vertica=
l
> piece directly behind the centre of the grille.
>
> During the late 1980s I made up a similar fitting to the BN3 which made a
> big difference. The Healey Duncan has a similar fitting for channelling t=
he
> air upwards and through the radiator.
>
> Hoo Roo
>
> Patrick Quinn
> Blue Mountains, Australia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert
> Begani
> Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 3:22 AM
> To: eyera3000@gmail.com; 'Healey Email list'
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel
>
> The pictures did not have my comments attached,
>
> !. Trim the shovel to fit the frame.
> 2. Shows the way the it should fit to the frame with the flange pointing
> down.  However, I cut the valve hole wrong and had to flip flop it.
> 3. Note the lip should be pointing  down so you can install the mounting
> screws to the frame from underneath and remember to get the hole for the
> radiator drain valve large enough to install it.
> 4. Painted the same color as the car.  Looks good and really funnels the
> air
> into the engine compartment so you do not over heat down to 30-40 mph.
> 5. Should have been a factory install.  I recommend the Shovel baffle for
> all Healey cars.  There never is too much cooling air flowing through the
> engine compartment.  When I was test driving my Healey after the rebuild
> without the tunnel, I could feel the air flowing through the engine
> compartment like a tornado.
>
> Bob Begani
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:05 PM
> To: eyera3000@gmail.com; Bob Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>; Healey Email
> list
> <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Radiator shovel
>
> Here are pictures of what I fabricated from the picture I got from someon=
e
> on the list which I no longer have
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Hi Pa=
trick--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I now understand and =
I believe these pieces correspond to the two-pieces that make up part #70 i=
n the Moss catalogue, correct?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"c=
olor:#3333ff"><a href=3D"https://mossmotors.com/austin-healey-100-100-6-300=
0/body-panels-structure/inner-body-panels-bn1-bn2">https://mossmotors.com/a=
ustin-healey-100-100-6-3000/body-panels-structure/inner-body-panels-bn1-bn2=
</a><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I removed the vertic=
al divider on my 100 in order to mount a pusher fan to the cross-members, a=
nd though you may be correct that esthetics played no part in the inclusion=
 of the piece its absence does make things look a bit cheesy when viewed fr=
om the side.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael O=
=C2=A0=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 7:11 PM Patrick &amp; Caroline Qu=
inn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au";>p_cquinn@tpg.com.au</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=
=3D"EN-AU"><div class=3D"gmail-m_-3225602779262858542WordSection1"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Hello Michael<u></u><u></u></=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">=
In all the four-cylinder production cars there is a single horizontal and a=
 single vertical metal piece that serves the main purpose of ensuring that =
the air that comes in through the grille goes through the radiator.<u></u><=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u><=
/u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11pt">That the vertical piece also prevents being able to see from one whee=
l opening to the other is purely secondary.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Have a look at thi=
s page from the AH Spares website and it=E2=80=99s numbers 68 and 69 on the=
 right hand side.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<a href=3D"https://www.ahspares.co.uk/big-healey/inner-body-panels-ibp101-t=
o-ibp286a/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ahspares.co.uk/big-healey/inner-b=
ody-panels-ibp101-to-ibp286a/</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">There is no such similar hori=
zontal fitting on the production six-cylinder cars so that a lot of the air=
 that comes through the grille escapes below the radiator and serves no wor=
thwhile purpose. <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Hoo Roo<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:11pt">Patrick Quinn<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:11pt">Blue Mountains, Australia<u></u><u></u></span></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:=
10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> Michael Oritt [mailto=
:<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt=
@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 31 October 2019 9:52 AM<br><b>To=
:</b> Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn<br><b>Cc:</b> Robert Begani; Austin Heal=
ey<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel<u></u><u></u></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>Patrick<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have never seen anything re a &quot;=
shovel&quot; either standard or optional to 100&#39;s<u></u><u></u></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Can you expand on this?<u></u><u></u></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">i was always of the impression that the purpose of the verti=
cal divider was esthetic to prevent one&#39;s seeing through the opposite w=
heel opening when a car was viewed from the side.<u></u><u></u></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">Best--Michael Oritt=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed=
, Oct 30, 2019, 4:54 PM Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
p_cquinn@tpg.com.au" target=3D"_blank">p_cquinn@tpg.com.au</a>&gt; wrote:<u=
></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:non=
e;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm=
 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">Hello<br><br>Such a fitting was standard to the fou=
r-cylinder cars including a vertical<br>piece directly behind the centre of=
 the grille.<br><br>During the late 1980s I made up a similar fitting to th=
e BN3 which made a<br>big difference. The Healey Duncan has a similar fitti=
ng for channelling the<br>air upwards and through the radiator.<br><br>Hoo =
Roo<br><br>Patrick Quinn<br>Blue Mountains, Australia<br><br>-----Original =
Message-----<br>From: Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behal=
f Of Robert<br>Begani<br>Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 3:22 AM<br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">eyera3000@gmail.com</=
a>; &#39;Healey Email list&#39;<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel<b=
r><br>The pictures did not have my comments attached,<br><br>!. Trim the sh=
ovel to fit the frame.<br>2. Shows the way the it should fit to the frame w=
ith the flange pointing<br>down.=C2=A0 However, I cut the valve hole wrong =
and had to flip flop it.<br>3. Note the lip should be pointing=C2=A0 down s=
o you can install the mounting<br>screws to the frame from underneath and r=
emember to get the hole for the<br>radiator drain valve large enough to ins=
tall it.=C2=A0 <br>4. Painted the same color as the car.=C2=A0 Looks good a=
nd really funnels the air<br>into the engine compartment so you do not over=
 heat down to 30-40 mph.<br>5. Should have been a factory install.=C2=A0 I =
recommend the Shovel baffle for<br>all Healey cars.=C2=A0 There never is to=
o much cooling air flowing through the<br>engine compartment.=C2=A0 When I =
was test driving my Healey after the rebuild<br>without the tunnel, I could=
 feel the air flowing through the engine<br>compartment like a tornado.<br>=
<br>Bob Begani<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Bob Begani &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">rfbegani@gmail.com</a=
>&gt; <br>Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:05 PM<br>To: <a href=3D"mail=
to:eyera3000@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>; Bob Bega=
ni &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">rfbegani@gma=
il.com</a>&gt;; Healey Email list<br>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.te=
am.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Radiat=
or shovel<br><br>Here are pictures of what I fabricated from the picture I =
got from someone<br>on the list which I no longer have=C2=A0 <br><br><u></u=
><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-322560277926285854=
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