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Re: [Healeys] high oil consumption

To: warthodson@aol.com, healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] high oil consumption
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 08:08:51 -0700
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re: "Some did say they say a "little black smoke, occasionally"."

That would indicate a rich mixture; if so, some unburned gas might be 
getting past the rings and diluting the oil, making it even thinner.  
Certainly, a compression test is called-for.

On 9/17/2019 7:48 AM, warthodson@aol.com wrote:
> Bob,
> The owner is aware of the issues with oil & I think he is using 20w/50 
> Castrol synthetic oil. I will confirm at the meeting. On the trip to 
> Conclave no one noticed any thing unusual about his exhaust. Some did 
> say they say a "little black smoke, occasionally". I will be 
> interested in seeing the plugs. If not rings, how else could oil be 
> getting into the combustion chamber?
> Perhaps the valve stems could be leaking. How could we test for this? 
> How about valve stem seals leaking?
> Gary H
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
> To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, Sep 17, 2019 9:22 am
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] high oil consumption
>
> What brand/viscosity oil is he using?
>
> If it really isn't leaking it can only be burning it; I'd expect quite 
> a bit of blue smoke out the tailpipe.  My BJ8's engine was rebuilt a 
> couple years ago and uses some, less than this one, but isn't leaking 
> it--I was under it yesterday--and I only get a little blue smoke after 
> a long downhill run in gear.
>
> Bob
>
> On 9/17/2019 7:16 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote:
> Our local AH club will be checking a BJ8 for high oil consumption this 
> weekend. He says it is not leaking out. We will verify that when we 
> inspect it.
> He added 8 quarts of oil on the round trip to Conclave recently (2100 
> miles total). The engine was professionally rebuilt in 2011. The 
> engine builder has recently retired & moved to a Caribbean island so 
> we cannot contact him, true story.
> In 2012 he used 6 quarts of oil on a 5000 mile trip. About 2-3 years 
> ago I checked the compression, performed a leak down test & inspected 
> the spark plugs. Every thing was in the normal range.
> My question is: If the engine passes all the usual tests this weekend, 
> what are some of the unusual ways you have come across that could 
> cause high oil consumption & how would we test for them?
>
> Gary Hodson
>
>
>


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    re: "Some did say they say a "little black smoke, occasionally"."<br>
    <br>
    That would indicate a rich mixture; if so, some unburned gas might
    be getting past the rings and diluting the oil, making it even
    thinner.  Certainly, a compression test is called-for.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/17/2019 7:48 AM,
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:warthodson@aol.com";>warthodson@aol.com</a> wrote:<br>
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      cite="mid:1267253349.8561914.1568731699962@mail.yahoo.com">
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        <div>Bob, </div>
        <div>The owner is aware of the issues with oil &amp; I think he
          is using 20w/50 Castrol synthetic oil. I will confirm at the
          meeting. On the trip to Conclave no one noticed any thing
          unusual about his exhaust. Some did say they say a "little
          black smoke, occasionally". I will be interested in seeing the
          plugs. If not rings, how else could oil be getting into the
          combustion chamber? </div>
        <div>Perhaps the valve stems could be leaking. How could we test
          for this? How about valve stem seals leaking?</div>
        <div>Gary H</div>
        <br>
        <div
          
style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original
          Message-----<br>
          From: Bob Spidell <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>&lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt;</a><br>
          To: healeys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
          Sent: Tue, Sep 17, 2019 9:22 am<br>
          Subject: Re: [Healeys] high oil consumption<br>
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            <div> What brand/viscosity oil is he using?<br clear="none">
              <br clear="none">
              If it really isn't leaking it can only be burning it; I'd
              expect quite a bit of blue smoke out the tailpipe.  My
              BJ8's engine was rebuilt a couple years ago and uses some,
              less than this one, but isn't leaking it--I was under it
              yesterday--and I only get a little blue smoke after a long
              downhill run in gear.<br clear="none">
              <br clear="none">
              Bob<br clear="none">
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                <div class="yiv2063336109moz-cite-prefix">On 9/17/2019
                  7:16 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote:<br
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                  <div>Our local AH club will be checking a BJ8 for high
                    oil consumption this weekend. He says it is not
                    leaking out. We will verify that when we inspect
                    it. </div>
                  <div>He added 8 quarts of oil on the round trip to
                    Conclave recently (2100 miles total). The engine was
                    professionally rebuilt in 2011. The engine builder
                    has recently retired &amp; moved to a Caribbean
                    island so we cannot contact him, true story.</div>
                  <div>In 2012 he used 6 quarts of oil on a 5000 mile
                    trip. About 2-3 years ago I checked the compression,
                    performed a leak down test &amp; inspected the spark
                    plugs. Every thing was in the normal range.</div>
                  <div>My question is: If the engine passes all the
                    usual tests this weekend, what are some of the
                    unusual ways you have come across that could cause
                    high oil consumption &amp; how would we test for
                    them? </div>
                  <div><br clear="none">
                  </div>
                  <div>Gary Hodson</div>
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