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Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Re: headrest

To: skip saunders <tfsbj7@gmail.com>, healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Re: headrest
From: Charlie Baldwin <mgcharlie@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 10:57:10 -0400 (EDT)
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Skip,

I'd say the MGB seats would work well since the cars are similar in size.  =
The seat rails work the same way as a big Healey, but measurements would ne=
ed to be taken to see how well it would all work.  And the seat back isn't =
really very thick.  The Healey seat backs are curved more, so the overall m=
ay be around the same.

Take a tape measure to a British car show near you and ask some of the owne=
rs if you can measure their seats.

Another advantage to using MGB ones are that you can get leather covers wit=
h maybe the exact same color as your Healey seats are.  I think that 1969 w=
as the first year for headrests and they were leather.  Checking out a Moss=
 catalog would tell you when they went to vinyl.

Charlie

> On September 6, 2019 at 9:02 AM skip saunders <tfsbj7@gmail.com> wrote:
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>     Thanks everyone for the suggestions.   The =E2=80=9Cstrength in a cra=
sh=E2=80=9D issue is important to consider, however I am not interested in =
the headrest from that standpoint.  My wife simply likes to rest her head w=
hen we are cruising around.  The Miata solution is interesting, but I am le=
aning a bit more towards an adjustable headrest.  The MGB seats might be ok=
, but I wonder about how the relatively thick seat backs of those seats wor=
k in the limited space of a Healey cockpit. =20
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>     =20
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>     For any of these =E2=80=9Cswap out the whole seat=E2=80=9D solutions,=
 are there significant modifications required to the floor pan of the Heale=
y?  Or, can the swapped seats work on the original Healey seat rails? =20
>=20
>     =20
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>     Thanks to everyone --- and please keep the good ideas coming=E2=80=A6=
 J
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>     -skip-
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>     =20
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>     From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ch=
arlie Baldwin
>     Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 6:15 AM
>     To: healeys@autox.team.net
>     Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Re: headrest
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>     =20
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>     Another option would be some late MGB seats.  The headrest telescopes=
 so they can be put down when the car is parked.  I have a '77 that has a V=
ictoria British seat cover set in it, and they are quite attractive.  I als=
o have a '77 parts car with very nicely redone original pattern seats.  The=
 issue, though, is because the car was T-boned the passenger side seat bott=
om frame is bent.  Shipping could be expensive is you aren't close to south=
ern PA.
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>     Charlie
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>     On 9/5/2019 7:15 PM, i erbs wrote:
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>         > >=20
> >         Mazda miata seats
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> >         Ira Erbs
> >         Portland, OR
> >         typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone
> >=20
> >         =20
> >=20
> >         On Thu, Sep 5, 2019, 2:35 PM skip saunders <tfsbj7@gmail.com ma=
ilto:tfsbj7@gmail.com > wrote:
> >=20
> >             > > >=20
> > >             Thanks to everyone for the suggestions on buying parts at=
 a discount. =20
> > >=20
> > >             =20
> > >=20
> > >             I=E2=80=99ve another question: Has anyone installed headr=
ests in the Healey 3000?.   I=E2=80=99ve a BJ8, my wife would like headrest=
s.    Is there a kit suitable for adding headrests to Healey seats?.... I=
=E2=80=99m tempted by this arrangement:
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> > >             https://www.extremeterrain.com/corbeau-baja-bench-seat-he=
adrest-black-vinyl-8717-yj-tj-jk.html?utm_content=3DXT%20Interior%20-%20Sea=
ts%7CCorbeau&T5_Var4=3DJ109565&intl=3D0&utm_campaign=3DXTW+Wrangler+No+Vehi=
cle+High&dialogtech=3Dppc&utm_source=3Dgoogle-pla&utm_medium=3Dshopping&T5_=
Var2=3Dshopping&gclid=3DCj0KCQjw5MLrBRClARIsAPG0WGwlfZ3zqANKdQb6Xo6n_5IXMBi=
_Z_NlIHm-bgnpKF8qYkvh2f1ghDsaAoozEALw_wcB&gclsrc=3Daw.ds https://www.extrem=
eterrain.com/corbeau-baja-bench-seat-headrest-black-vinyl-8717-yj-tj-jk.htm=
l?utm_content=3DXT%20Interior%20-%20Seats%7CCorbeau&T5_Var4=3DJ109565&intl=
=3D0&utm_campaign=3DXTW+Wrangler+No+Vehicle+High&dialogtech=3Dppc&utm_sourc=
e=3Dgoogle-pla&utm_medium=3Dshopping&T5_Var2=3Dshopping&gclid=3DCj0KCQjw5ML=
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Lw_wcB&gclsrc=3Daw.ds
> > >=20
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> > >             using guide tubes such as used in this video:
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> > >             https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMq91ZpOVvEY
> > >=20
> > >             =20
> > >=20
> > >             and perhaps using this bracket (or similar home-brew) to =
establish strength for the bottom of the headrests:
> > >=20
> > >             =20
> > >=20
> > >             https://www.npdlink.com/product/bracket-accessory-sport-s=
eat-headrest-to-fit-on/105113/200167
> > >=20
> > >             =20
> > >=20
> > >             =20
> > >=20
> > >             My thoughts involve welding captured nuts into the existi=
ng metal seat back frame.  Then fabricating a bracket assembly that can be =
mounted to the seat back into the captured nuts=E2=80=A6.and have the whole=
 headrest attachment something that can be added/removed as the mood fits t=
he situation=E2=80=A6
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> > >             Anyone else have other ideas?....better ideas?.... actual=
 experience?
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> > >             Thanks
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> > >             -skip-
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</head><body><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sa=
ns-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Skip,<br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt=
; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">I&#39=
;d say the MGB seats would work well since the cars are similar in size.&#1=
60; The seat rails work the same way as a big Healey, but measurements woul=
d need to be taken to see how well it would all work.&#160; And the seat ba=
ck isn&#39;t really very thick.&#160; The Healey seat backs are curved more=
, so the overall may be around the same.<br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt=
; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Take =
a tape measure to a British car show near you and ask some of the owners if=
 you can measure their seats.<br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-fami=
ly: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Another advantag=
e to using MGB ones are that you can get leather covers with maybe the exac=
t same color as your Healey seats are.&#160; I think that 1969 was the firs=
t year for headrests and they were leather.&#160; Checking out a Moss catal=
og would tell you when they went to vinyl.<br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12=
pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Cha=
rlie<br></p><blockquote type=3D"cite">On September 6, 2019 at 9:02 AM skip =
saunders &#60;tfsbj7@gmail.com&#62; wrote: <br> <br><div class=3D"ox-48656d=
2053-WordSection1"><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Thanks=
 everyone for the suggestions.&#160;&#160; The &#8220;strength in a crash&#=
8221; issue is important to consider, however I am not interested in the he=
adrest from that standpoint.&#160; My wife simply likes to rest her head wh=
en we are cruising around.&#160; The Miata solution is interesting, but I a=
m leaning a bit more towards an adjustable headrest.&#160; The MGB seats mi=
ght be ok, but I wonder about how the relatively thick seat backs of those =
seats work in the limited space of a Healey cockpit.&#160;&#160; </span></p=
><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; fon=
t-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"> &#160; </span></p><p cl=
ass=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-fami=
ly: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">For any of these &#8220;swap o=
ut the whole seat&#8221; solutions, are there significant modifications req=
uired to the floor pan of the Healey?&#160; Or, can the swapped seats work =
on the original Healey seat rails?&#160;&#160; </span></p><p class=3D"ox-48=
656d2053-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri=
','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"> &#160; </span></p><p class=3D"ox-48656d20=
53-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','san=
s-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Thanks to everyone --- and please keep the good =
ideas coming&#8230; </span><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: W=
ingdings; color: #1f497d;">J</span></p><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; col=
or: #1f497d;">-skip- </span></p><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f=
497d;"> &#160; </span></p><div><div style=3D"border: none; border-top: soli=
d #B5C4DF 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-Mso=
Normal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sa=
ns-serif'; color: windowtext;">From:</span></strong><span style=3D"font-siz=
e: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; color: windowtext;"> Healeys=
 [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Char=
lie Baldwin<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Friday, September 6, 2019 6:15 AM<br>=
<strong>To:</strong> healeys@autox.team.net<br><strong>Subject:</strong> [H=
ealeys] Fwd: Re: headrest </span></p></div></div><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-=
MsoNormal">&#160;</p><div><p>Another option would be some late MGB seats.&#=
160; The headrest telescopes so they can be put down when the car is parked=
.&#160; I have a &#39;77 that has a Victoria British seat cover set in it, =
and they are quite attractive.&#160; I also have a &#39;77 parts car with v=
ery nicely redone original pattern seats.&#160; The issue, though, is becau=
se the car was T-boned the passenger side seat bottom frame is bent.&#160; =
Shipping could be expensive is you aren&#39;t close to southern PA.</p><p>C=
harlie</p><div><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal">On 9/5/2019 7:15 PM, i =
erbs wrote:</p></div><blockquote><div><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">Mazda miata seats</p><div><p class=3D"ox-4=
8656d2053-MsoNormal">Ira Erbs<br>Portland, OR<br>typos and artifacts are th=
e fault of my phone</p></div></div><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal">&#1=
60;</p><div><div><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 5, 2019, =
2:35 PM skip saunders &#60;<a href=3D"mailto:tfsbj7@gmail.com";>tfsbj7@gmail=
.com</a>&#62; wrote:</p></div><blockquote><div><div><p class=3D"ox-48656d20=
53-MsoNormal">Thanks to everyone for the suggestions on buying parts at a d=
iscount.&#160;&#160;</p><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal">&#160;</p><p c=
lass=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal">I&#8217;ve another question: Has anyone in=
stalled headrests in the Healey 3000?.&#160;&#160; I&#8217;ve a BJ8, my wif=
e would like headrests.&#160;&#160;&#160; Is there a kit suitable for addin=
g headrests to Healey seats?.... I&#8217;m tempted by this arrangement:</p>=
<p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal">&#160;</p><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-Ms=
oNormal"><a href=3D"https://www.extremeterrain.com/corbeau-baja-bench-seat-=
headrest-black-vinyl-8717-yj-tj-jk.html?utm_content=3DXT%20Interior%20-%20S=
eats%7CCorbeau&amp;T5_Var4=3DJ109565&amp;intl=3D0&amp;utm_campaign=3DXTW+Wr=
angler+No+Vehicle+High&amp;dialogtech=3Dppc&amp;utm_source=3Dgoogle-pla&amp=
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&amp;gclsrc=3Daw.ds" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">https://www.extreme=
terrain.com/corbeau-baja-bench-seat-headrest-black-vinyl-8717-yj-tj-jk.html=
?utm_content=3DXT%20Interior%20-%20Seats%7CCorbeau&#38;T5_Var4=3DJ109565&#3=
8;intl=3D0&#38;utm_campaign=3DXTW+Wrangler+No+Vehicle+High&#38;dialogtech=
=3Dppc&#38;utm_source=3Dgoogle-pla&#38;utm_medium=3Dshopping&#38;T5_Var2=3D=
shopping&#38;gclid=3DCj0KCQjw5MLrBRClARIsAPG0WGwlfZ3zqANKdQb6Xo6n_5IXMBi_Z_=
NlIHm-bgnpKF8qYkvh2f1ghDsaAoozEALw_wcB&#38;gclsrc=3Daw.ds</a><br></p><p cla=
ss=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal">&#160;</p><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNorma=
l">using guide tubes such as used in this video:</p><p class=3D"ox-48656d20=
53-MsoNormal">&#160;</p><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal"><a href=3D"htt=
ps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMq91ZpOVvEY" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopen=
er">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMq91ZpOVvEY</a><br></p><p class=3D"ox=
-48656d2053-MsoNormal">&#160;</p><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal">and p=
erhaps using this bracket (or similar home-brew) to establish strength for =
the bottom of the headrests:</p><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal">&#160;=
</p><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://www.npdlink.com=
/product/bracket-accessory-sport-seat-headrest-to-fit-on/105113/200167" tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">https://www.npdlink.com/product/bracket-acc=
essory-sport-seat-headrest-to-fit-on/105113/200167</a><br></p><p class=3D"o=
x-48656d2053-MsoNormal">&#160;</p><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal">&#16=
0;</p><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal">My thoughts involve welding capt=
ured nuts into the existing metal seat back frame.&#160; Then fabricating a=
 bracket assembly that can be mounted to the seat back into the captured nu=
ts&#8230;.and have the whole headrest attachment something that can be adde=
d/removed as the mood fits the situation&#8230;</p><p class=3D"ox-48656d205=
3-MsoNormal">&#160;</p><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal">Anyone else hav=
e other ideas?....better ideas?.... actual experience?</p><p class=3D"ox-48=
656d2053-MsoNormal">&#160;</p><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal">Thanks</=
p><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-MsoNormal">-skip-</p><p class=3D"ox-48656d2053-=
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