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When I had it done before they ground them with a water bath. I suppose tha=
t wasn't considered to be enough protection.
Bill Lawrence
BN1 #554
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From: HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 9:33 AM
To: i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
Cc: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <YNOTINK@msn.com>; healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@a=
utox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Problem (addendum)
I was told a few years ago that the insurance carriers for garages required=
them to dispose of their arcing machines due to liability issues with asbe=
stos particles in the air.
Rick Neville
@gmail.com>> wrote:
Bill,
Where do you live? Hard to believe there isn't a brake shop or parts store =
that could arc the shoes for you? Or a friction shop. Where do you live?
Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
_______ _______
(______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
(_________________________)
BT7 engine and disk brakes
1967 MGB [MG]
A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
NOTINK@msn.com>> wrote:
To Michael Oritt and others who were interested in this topic I have a late=
contribution:
On the late test drive of my 100 after having it laid up for some time and =
installing new brake shoes (I can't remember the source, but probably Moss)=
I encountered the same problem.
On removing the brake drums, which took some extra effort, I found that the=
shoes didn't have the proper arc to fit the drums. they were touching the =
drums on the leading and trailing ends, but not in the center. The excess t=
hickness at those points made installation difficult and caused the shoes t=
o drag on the drums.
After searching out all of the old school brake shops in town I found that =
nobody has the equipment or expertise to reline or arc brake shoes anymore.=
A possible argument for converting to discs in the future
I therefore resorted to the method recommended by my old strengths of mater=
ials instructor, the BF&I (Brute Force and Ignorance) method. I place each =
shoe in a vice and, noting the contact pattern on the surface and mindful t=
hat I was probably abrading an asbestos material I wetted the surface down =
with simple green and applied a flat bastard (note to moderator; this is an=
acceptable technical term related to types of files, and besides it is fun=
to type...) to the shoes and removed a few thousandths of an inch of mater=
ial where they had been dragging.
I got the first set right in one try and had to do a test assembly and rewo=
rk on the other, but both sets are now sitting on the lowest points of thei=
r snail cams and the drums slip on and off with no interference. The whole =
job took less than half an hour including disassembly and re-familiarizatio=
n with the assembly process.
Bill Lawrence
BN1 #554
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t wasn't considered to be enough protection.</div>
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Bill Lawrence</div>
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BN1 #554</div>
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yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> HealeyRick <healey=
rik@gmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 8, 2019 9:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <YNOTINK@msn.com>; healeys@autox.team.n=
et <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Brake Problem (addendum)</font>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I was told a few years ago that the insurance carriers for=
garages required them to dispose of their arcing machines due to liability=
issues with asbestos particles in the air.
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<div>Rick Neville</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 1:07 AM i er=
bs <<a href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com";>eyera3000@gmail.com</a>> w=
rote:<br>
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er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204); padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Bill,
<div>Where do you live? Hard to believe there isn't a brake shop or parts s=
tore that could arc the shoes for you? Or a friction shop. Where do you liv=
e? <br clear=3D"all">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs
<div>Portland,OR</div>
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an><br style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">
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(______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)</span><br style=3D"font-family:&=
quot;Times New Roman",serif">
<span style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> =
(_________________________)</span></div>
<div> BT7 engine and disk brakes</div>
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<div>1967 MGB <img alt=3D"MG" src=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists=
.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg"></div>
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uot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px">A racing car is an animal =
with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti</span><br>
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<div>Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 2:59 PM WILL=
IAM B LAWRENCE <<a href=3D"mailto:YNOTINK@msn.com"; target=3D"_blank">YNO=
TINK@msn.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204); padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; col=
or:rgb(0,0,0)">
To Michael Oritt and others who were interested in this topic I have a late=
contribution:</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; col=
or:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; col=
or:rgb(0,0,0)">
On the late test drive of my 100 after having it laid up for some time and =
installing new brake shoes (I can't remember the source, but probably Moss)=
I encountered the same problem. </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; col=
or:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; col=
or:rgb(0,0,0)">
On removing the brake drums, which took some extra effort, I found that the=
shoes didn't have the proper arc to fit the drums. they were touching the =
drums on the leading and trailing ends, but not in the center. The excess t=
hickness at those points made installation
difficult and caused the shoes to drag on the drums. </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; col=
or:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; col=
or:rgb(0,0,0)">
After searching out all of the old school brake shops in town I found that =
nobody has the equipment or expertise to reline or arc brake shoes any=
more. A possible argument for converting to discs in the future</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; col=
or:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; col=
or:rgb(0,0,0)">
I therefore resorted to the method recommended by my old strengths of mater=
ials instructor, the BF&I (Brute Force and Ignorance) method. I place e=
ach shoe in a vice and, noting the contact pattern on the surface and mindf=
ul that I was probably abrading an asbestos
material I wetted the surface down with simple green and applied a flat ba=
stard (note to moderator; this is an acceptable technical term related to t=
ypes of files, and besides it is fun to type...) to the shoes and removed a=
few thousandths of an inch of material
where they had been dragging. </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; col=
or:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; col=
or:rgb(0,0,0)">
I got the first set right in one try and had to do a test assembly and rewo=
rk on the other, but both sets are now sitting on the lowest points of thei=
r snail cams and the drums slip on and off with no interference. The whole =
job took less than half an hour
including disassembly and re-familiarization with the assembly process.</d=
iv>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; col=
or:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; col=
or:rgb(0,0,0)">
Bill Lawrence</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; col=
or:rgb(0,0,0)">
BN1 #554</div>
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