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When I bought front and rear bumpers for my 67 BJ-8 from Moss . I had a show=
coming up and I needed them quick . Well they weren=E2=80=99t even close to=
fitting. When I called Moss back , the salesman said , when you ordered the=
m , didn=E2=80=99t the salesman tell you they will need to modified to fit ?=
Sent them back , ordered a new set from AH Spares . Fit first time .=20
Don ,=20
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 12, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net> wro=
te:
>=20
> As far as repops go, I asked a Moss rep one time why a lot of the rep=
roduction parts and the rubber was so bad and did not fit well. He told me t=
hat he could sell better parts for our cars but very few people will buy the=
m. If he lists both a premium part and a cheaper version, almost 95% will b=
uy the cheap part. It would be foolish to inventory such slow moving parts, s=
o they sell what the majority will buy. Everyone wants the parts to be chea=
p. S
> So, I guess you get what you pay for.
> Mike MacLean
>=20
> On Friday, July 12, 2019, 8:29:19 AM PDT, Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@h=
otmail.com> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> Yup, fully agree with the rant:
>=20
> The rear bumper brackets were not even close to fitting the attachment hol=
es on my rear bumper, both purchased at the same time from the vendor. As a r=
esult, one each of the bracket bolts hold the bumper to the car with the oth=
er hole in the bumper empty. Looks weird but doesn=E2=80=99t impact drivabil=
ity. The bumper is so thin that any rear ender will destroy it anyway.
>=20
> Regards,
> Richard C
> BN7 440
>=20
> On Jul 11, 2019, at 23:41, Bruce Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com> wrote=
:
>=20
>=20
> Amen to that. The inner forks of front bumper mounting brackets I bought a=
number of years ago were a bit over an inch shorter than the outer forks, w=
hich required sectioning and welding in extensions to bring them level. In r=
etrospect, I probably should have taken an inch out of the outer forks, as t=
he bumper sits too far proud of the shroud. I=E2=80=99d totally forgotten a=
bout this until I took my aux lamps off and reinstalled the bumper for a sho=
w this weekend. After the show, the bumper is coming off and the lamps are g=
oing back on.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Bruce Steele
>=20
> Brea, CA
>=20
> 1960 BN7
>=20
> =20
>=20
> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael=
Salter
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 1:39 PM
> To: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mind if I Rant?
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Mike you are pretty well "on the money" there.
>=20
> I have encountered endless problems with repop parts. I fail to understand=
why manufacturers have so much difficulty getting things right.=20
>=20
> My suspicion is that we are all partly to blame for accepting the junk and=
trying to make it work.
>=20
> I will go to untold lengths to purchase a good used part any time as so do=
ing invariably saves me hours and hours of frustration...
>=20
> =20
>=20
> I feel your pain.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> M
>=20
> =20
>=20
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019, 4:19 PM Mike MacLean, <rrengineer.mike@att.net> wrot=
e:
>=20
> I am beginning to understand what a restorer friend of mine once told me. =
He said he could restore three BJ8 cars in the time it took to do a 100. V=
irtually no parts I have bought from the usual suspects for my BN2 are easy t=
o install. Nothing fits like it was made for the car. This morning I made a=
n attempt to bolt up the two bump stop boxes over the rear axle. None of th=
e holes in the part lined up with the holes in the body above the rear axle.=
I will have to auger out at least three of the holes in the bump stop box t=
o get all four bolts in. This car is fighting me every step of the way. I g=
uess it's like my restorer friend who has since passed told me when he sold m=
e that rolling frame with a few body panels on it, "Go ahead buy the car, it=
will give you a reason to live". I am beginning to understand what he mean=
t. Half the time I am pulling my hair out and inventing new curse words, bu=
t I go out to that garage everyday and try to accomplish something on the ca=
r, even if I end up beating my head against the wall, I keep coming back. R=
ant over.
>=20
> Mike MacLean
>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">When I bought front and rear bumpers for my=
67 BJ-8 from Moss . I had a show coming up and I needed them quick . Well t=
hey weren=E2=80=99t even close to fitting. When I called Moss back , the sal=
esman said , when you ordered them , didn=E2=80=99t the salesman tell you th=
ey will need to modified to fit ? Sent them back , ordered a new set from AH=
Spares . Fit first time . <div> &nbs=
p;Don , <br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my=
iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jul 12, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Michael MacLe=
an <<a href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";>rrengineer.mike@att.net</a=
>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div cl=
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w york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"> As f=
ar as repops go, I asked a Moss rep one time why a lot of the reproduction p=
arts and the rubber was so bad and did not fit well. He told me that h=
e could sell better parts for our cars but very few people will buy them.&nb=
sp; If he lists both a premium part and a cheaper version, almost 95% will b=
uy the cheap part. It would be foolish to inventory such slow moving parts, s=
o they sell what the majority will buy. Everyone wants the parts to be=
cheap. S</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"> &nbs=
p; So, I guess you get what you pay for.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-se=
tdir=3D"false">Mike MacLean<br></div><div><br></div>
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On Friday, July 12, 2019, 8:29:19 AM PDT, Richard Collin=
s <<a href=3D"mailto:gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com";>gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com=
</a>> wrote:
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Yup, fully agree with the rant:
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<div>The rear bumper brackets were not even close to fitting the attachment h=
oles on my rear bumper, both purchased at the same time from the vendor. As a=
result, one each of the bracket bolts hold the bumper to the car with the o=
ther hole in the bumper empty.
Looks weird but doesn=E2=80=99t impact drivability. The bumper is so thin t=
hat any rear ender will destroy it anyway.<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Regards,
<div>Richard C</div>
<div>BN7 440</div>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"yiv0907245582yqt2627518864" id=3D"yiv09072455=
82yqtfd62795"><br clear=3D"none">
On Jul 11, 2019, at 23:41, Bruce Steele <<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rec=
t" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeybruce@roadrunner.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"m=
ailto:healeybruce@roadrunner.com">healeybruce@roadrunner.com</a>> wrote:<=
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<p class=3D"yiv0907245582MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Amen to that. The=
inner forks of front bumper mounting brackets I bought a number of years ag=
o were a bit over an inch shorter than the outer forks, which required secti=
oning and welding
in extensions to bring them level. In retrospect, I probably should h=
ave taken an inch out of the outer forks, as the bumper sits too far proud o=
f the shroud. I=E2=80=99d totally forgotten about this until I took my=
aux lamps off and reinstalled the bumper for a
show this weekend. After the show, the bumper is coming off and the l=
amps are going back on.</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv0907245582MsoNormal"><span style=3D""> </span></p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv0907245582MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Bruce Steele</span></p>=
=20
<p class=3D"yiv0907245582MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Brea, CA</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv0907245582MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">1960 BN7</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv0907245582MsoNormal"><span style=3D""> </span></p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv0907245582MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">From:=
</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;"> Healeys [<a rel=3D"nofollow" s=
hape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_b=
lank" href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:healeys-bounces@=
autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Salter<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 11, 2019 1:39 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> Michael MacLean <<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D=
"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:rrengineer=
.mike@att.net">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Cc:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@auto=
x.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys=
@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Mind if I Rant?</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv0907245582MsoNormal"> </p>=20
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv0907245582MsoNormal">Mike you are pretty well "on the money" t=
here.</p>=20
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv0907245582MsoNormal">I have encountered endless problems with=
repop parts. I fail to understand why manufacturers have so much difficulty=
getting things right. </p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv0907245582MsoNormal">My suspicion is that we are all partly t=
o blame for accepting the junk and trying to make it work.</p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv0907245582MsoNormal">I will go to untold lengths to purchase a=
good used part any time as so doing invariably saves me hours and hours of f=
rustration...</p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv0907245582MsoNormal"> </p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv0907245582MsoNormal">I feel your pain.</p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv0907245582MsoNormal"> </p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv0907245582MsoNormal">M</p>=20
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv0907245582MsoNormal"> </p>=20
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv0907245582MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 11, 2019, 4:19 PM Mike MacLe=
an, <<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike=
@att.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";>rrengine=
er.mike@att.net</a>> wrote:</p>=20
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0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bo=
ttom:5.0pt;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv0907245582MsoNormal">I am beginning to understand what a rest=
orer friend of mine once told me. He said he could restore three BJ8 c=
ars in the time it took to do a 100. Virtually no parts I have bought f=
rom the usual suspects for my BN2 are easy to install.
Nothing fits like it was made for the car. This morning I made an att=
empt to bolt up the two bump stop boxes over the rear axle. None of th=
e holes in the part lined up with the holes in the body above the rear axle.=
I will have to auger out at least three
of the holes in the bump stop box to get all four bolts in. This car i=
s fighting me every step of the way. I guess it's like my restorer fri=
end who has since passed told me when he sold me that rolling frame with a f=
ew body panels on it, "Go ahead buy the
car, it will give you a reason to live". I am beginning to understand=
what he meant. Half the time I am pulling my hair out and inventing n=
ew curse words, but I go out to that garage everyday and try to accomplish s=
omething on the car, even if I end up beating
my head against the wall, I keep coming back. Rant over.</p>=20
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv0907245582MsoNormal">Mike MacLean</p>=20
</div>
</div>
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