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What David P says is absolutely true...
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:21 AM David P <frogeye@porterscustom.com> wrote:
> ... valve jobs used to be the bread and butter job for repair shops.. I
> haven't seen one since the introduction of unleaded fuels. lead was the
> problem. DaveP
>
> On 7/10/2019 1:21 AM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote:
> > The harm it does is to the wallet. When you drive normally it is very
> > likely you will not notice any wear to the valve seats. It may help in
> > extreme circumstances but even then I have my doubts. The industry
> > earned billions from the scare they introduced when leaded petrol was
> > phased out. In the end it was only a handful of cars that had problems
> > with valve seat wear. Even lead substitute could not prevent that.
> >
> > I do not think this stuff will harm the engine.
> >
> >
> > Kees Oudesluijs
> >
> >
> >
> > Op 9-7-2019 om 23:38 schreef John O'Brien:
> >> Follow up - I found a phone number for Redline on the older bottle
> >> and called them. The guy I talked to said the new stuff is not as
> >> concentrated as the older formula, so you need to use more. The UPC
> >> code is the same, so they tried to hide the fact that they made it
> >> less concentrated. Kinda disappointed in that but at least I know.
> >> Just thought I'd share that in case anyone else is using it, and
> >> hadn't noticed the change.
> >>
> >> Kees, I use it to try to reduce valve seat wear, since my car has not
> >> had the valve seats changed to hardened. Some folks on this list
> >> recommended this product as being the best choice at the time. I'm
> >> just trying to make the engine and head last as long as possible with
> >> minimal rebuild expense. Do you think there is any harm in using it?
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> On 7/9/2019 2:32 PM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote:
> >>> That is called marketing. I very much doubt if you should use any at
> >>> all.
> >>>
> >>> Kees Oudesluijs
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Op 9-7-2019 om 21:14 schreef John O'Brien:
> >>>> I have been using Redline Lead Substitute in my Healeys for several
> >>>> years, based on recommendations from this forum. I bought several
> >>>> bottles a few years ago, and am getting close to being out, so I
> >>>> ordered more. The old bottles said a 12 oz. bottle would treat 120
> >>>> gallons (use 1 oz. per 10 gallon) The new bottles say the 12 oz.
> >>>> bottle treats 25 gallons. Did they change the product or change
> >>>> the recommended usage rate on the same product? I suppose I should
> >>>> follow the new recommended usage rate, but it made the stuff more
> >>>> expensive to use. Anyone have any insight or suggestions? Or is
> >>>> there a new greatest and best lead substitute i should be using
> >>>> instead?
> >>>>
> >>>> John O'Brien
> >>>>
> >>>> '65 BJ8 (Madelyn)
> >>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">What David P says is absolutely true...</=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-se=
rif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-f=
amily:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 10, 2=
019 at 10:21 AM David P <<a href=3D"mailto:frogeye@porterscustom.com";>fr=
ogeye@porterscustom.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
204);padding-left:1ex">... valve jobs used to be the bread and butter job f=
or repair shops.. I <br>
haven't seen one since the introduction of unleaded fuels. lead was the=
<br>
problem. DaveP<br>
<br>
On 7/10/2019 1:21 AM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote:<br>
> The harm it does is to the wallet. When you drive normally it is very =
<br>
> likely you will not notice any wear to the valve seats. It may help in=
<br>
> extreme circumstances but even then I have my doubts. The industry <br=
>
> earned billions from the scare they introduced when leaded petrol was =
<br>
> phased out. In the end it was only a handful of cars that had problems=
<br>
> with valve seat wear. Even lead substitute could not prevent that.<br>
><br>
> I do not think this stuff will harm the engine.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Kees Oudesluijs<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Op 9-7-2019 om 23:38 schreef John O'Brien:<br>
>> Follow up - I found a phone number for Redline on the older bottle=
<br>
>> and called them.=C2=A0 The guy I talked to said the new stuff is n=
ot as <br>
>> concentrated as the older formula, so you need to use more.=C2=A0 =
The UPC <br>
>> code is the same, so they tried to hide the fact that they made it=
<br>
>> less concentrated.=C2=A0 Kinda disappointed in that but at least I=
know. <br>
>> Just thought I'd share that in case anyone else is using it, a=
nd <br>
>> hadn't noticed the change.<br>
>><br>
>> Kees, I use it to try to reduce valve seat wear, since my car has =
not <br>
>> had the valve seats changed to hardened.=C2=A0 Some folks on this =
list <br>
>> recommended this product as being the best choice at the time.=C2=
=A0 I'm <br>
>> just trying to make the engine and head last as long as possible w=
ith <br>
>> minimal rebuild expense.=C2=A0 Do you think there is any harm in u=
sing it?<br>
>><br>
>> John<br>
>><br>
>> On 7/9/2019 2:32 PM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote:<br>
>>> That is called marketing. I very much doubt if you should use =
any at <br>
>>> all.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Kees Oudesluijs<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Op 9-7-2019 om 21:14 schreef John O'Brien:<br>
>>>> I have been using Redline Lead Substitute in my Healeys fo=
r several <br>
>>>> years, based on recommendations from this forum.=C2=A0 I b=
ought several <br>
>>>> bottles a few years ago, and am getting close to being out=
, so I <br>
>>>> ordered more.=C2=A0 The old bottles said a 12 oz. bottle w=
ould treat 120 <br>
>>>> gallons (use 1 oz. per 10 gallon)=C2=A0 The new bottles sa=
y the 12 oz. <br>
>>>> bottle treats 25 gallons.=C2=A0 Did they change the produc=
t or change <br>
>>>> the recommended usage rate on the same product? I suppose =
I should <br>
>>>> follow the new recommended usage rate, but it made the stu=
ff more <br>
>>>> expensive to use.=C2=A0 Anyone have any insight or suggest=
ions?=C2=A0 Or is <br>
>>>> there a new greatest and best lead substitute i should be =
using <br>
>>>> instead?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> John O'Brien<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> '65 BJ8 (Madelyn)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> '61 Bugeye (Lucy)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>> Support Team.Net <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.htm=
l" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a>=
<br>
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>>>><br>
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