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Re: [Healeys] Nothing Goes Right

To: "'Bob Haskell'" <rchaskell@earthlink.net>, "'Michael Oritt'" <michael.oritt@gmail.com>, "'Michael MacLean'" <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Nothing Goes Right
From: "Harold Manifold" <manifold@telus.net>
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 09:15:06 -0700
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Hello,
 
I have a Proto 2 3/16 socket that is a quality tool and fits the axle nut.
Part number is 5570. It is 3/4" drive but can be used with a 1/2 to 3/4
adapter. The price on Amazon is $47.30.
 
This socket will outlast the Healey.
 
Harold

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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob
Haskell
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 3:26 AM
To: Michael Oritt; Michael MacLean
Cc: Austin Healey
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Nothing Goes Right


Michael,

I'd guess that Michael is referring to a tool that is a combination of
service tools 18G152 (100 up to chassis # 221535 and Sprite) and 18G258
(later 100s and the 6 cylinders).  Which are described as: "Rear hub nut
spanner - a reinforced tubular spanner complete with tommy bar, designed to
pilot in the axle tube with the axle shaft removed".


Bob


-----Original Message----- 
From: Michael Oritt 
Sent: Jun 26, 2019 4:44 PM 
To: Michael MacLean 
Cc: Austin Healey 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Nothing Goes Right 


I am only seeing Michael MacLean's side of the conversations, not Michael
Salter's.  I would appreciate it if one of you could favor us with Michael
Salter's messages so we will know what he suggested.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 12:39 PM Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
wrote:


That would be awesome!  Just not something you are going to see in the Sears
tool department.
Mike M


On Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 6:29:56 AM PDT, Michael Salter
<michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote: 


This is what you need. 1 end octagonal for BN2 and later the other hex for
BN1. 
M

On Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 8:54 AM Charles Schott, <schottc@knology.net> wrote:


I bought that socket from Moss and used an impact gun to loosen the nuts. It
nearly wallowed out the square hole. A very soft metal. Once I get the nuts
back on, I will return it to Moss as defective.

Regards,

Charlie Schott

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From: "Michael MacLean" <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
To: "Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 3:36:49 AM
Subject: [Healeys] Nothing Goes Right


    I ordered the 8 point 2 3/16" hub nut wrench from Moss so I can torque
the hub nut down.  The 2 13/64ths tube wrench I have is too big and just
slips off when I apply any pressure to the nut.  I'll never get it torqued
down that way.  I called the Moss tech line to ask if the new flimsy looking
tube hub nut wrench they now sell will let me torque the nut to 150 ft lbs.
Almost before I could finish asking him, he said, "that's what we designed
it for!"  I am not convinced.  Go to the online Moss catalog and look at
part number 384-907.  Tell me that looks like a tool you can put a lot of
torque on a 1/4" thick nut.

     Now look at the picture I have included in this email.  I want to
install my nice re-chromed emergency brake handle and new emergency brake
cable.  If you look at the restored handle on the left you may notice
something odd.  The ratchet plate that bolts to the tunnel is for a
handbrake that is installed on the driver's side of the tunnel.  Only
problem is, the BN2 emergency brake handle is on the passenger side.  I have
a good parts brake handle, (the handle on the right in the picture) at least
I thought I did.  The ratchet plate is corroded solid on the shaft.  I have
been soaking it in PB Blaster for a couple of days.  I think it is going to
need a blue wrench.  Of course I don't have one.
     Every thing I do to this car to put it back together is a fight.
Nothing is easy, nothing goes right.  So, I am looking for a emergency brake
handle ratchet plate like the one on the right in my picture.  I'm willing
to pay.  

Mike MacLean


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size=3D2 face=3DArial>I have a Proto 2 3/16 socket that is a quality =
tool and fits=20
the axle nut. Part number is 5570. It is 3/4" drive but can be used with =
a 1/2=20
to 3/4 adapter. The price on Amazon is $47.30.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D821191016-01072019><FONT =
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D821191016-01072019><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2 face=3DArial>This socket will outlast the =
Healey.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D821191016-01072019><FONT =
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size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D821191016-01072019><FONT =
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<FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><B>From:</B> Healeys=20
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Bob=20
Haskell<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 01, 2019 3:26 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =
Michael=20
Oritt; Michael MacLean<BR><B>Cc:</B> Austin Healey<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
Re:=20
[Healeys] Nothing Goes Right<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: =
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<DIV>Michael,</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I'd guess that Michael is referring to a tool that is a combination =
of=20
service tools 18G152 (100 up to chassis # 221535 and Sprite) and 18G258 =
(later=20
100s and the 6 cylinders).&nbsp; Which are described as: "Rear hub nut =
spanner -=20
a reinforced tubular spanner complete with tommy bar, designed to pilot =
in the=20
axle tube with the axle shaft removed".<BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Bob<BR></DIV>
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solid">-----Original=20
  Message----- <BR>From: Michael Oritt =
<MICHAEL.ORITT@GMAIL.COM><BR>Sent: Jun=20
  26, 2019 4:44 PM <BR>To: Michael MacLean =
<RRENGINEER.MIKE@ATT.NET><BR>Cc:=20
  Austin Healey <HEALEYS@AUTOX.TEAM.NET><BR>Subject: Re: [Healeys] =
Nothing Goes=20
  Right <BR><BR>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"COLOR: #3333ff">I am only seeing =
Michael=20
  MacLean's side of the conversations, not Michael Salter's.&nbsp; I =
would=20
  appreciate it if one of you could favor us with Michael Salter's =
messages so=20
  we will know what he suggested.</DIV>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"COLOR: #3333ff"><BR></DIV>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"COLOR: #3333ff">Best--Michael=20
  Oritt</DIV></DIV><BR>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_attr dir=3Dltr>On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 12:39 PM =
Michael MacLean=20
  &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net"=20
  target=3D_blank>rrengineer.mike@att.net</A>&gt; wrote:<BR></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; =
MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex">
    <DIV>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail-m_-6843211637560940448ydp6ade0e8cyahoo-style-wrap =

    style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: "times new roman","new =
york",times,serif'>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV>That would be awesome!&nbsp; Just not something you are going =
to see in=20
    the Sears tool department.</DIV>
    <DIV>Mike M<BR></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV></DIV>
    <DIV id=3Dgmail-m_-6843211637560940448yahoo_quoted_2022539433=20
    class=3Dgmail-m_-6843211637560940448yahoo_quoted>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica =
Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(38,40,42)'>
    <DIV>On Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 6:29:56 AM PDT, Michael Salter =
&lt;<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"=20
    target=3D_blank>michaelsalter@gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote: </DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV id=3Dgmail-m_-6843211637560940448yiv1766438285>
    <DIV>
    <DIV>This is what you need. 1 end octagonal for BN2 and later the =
other hex=20
    for BN1.
    <DIV>M</DIV></DIV><BR clear=3Dnone>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail-m_-6843211637560940448yiv1766438285gmail_quote>
    <DIV id=3Dgmail-m_-6843211637560940448yiv1766438285yqt65967=20
    class=3Dgmail-m_-6843211637560940448yiv1766438285yqt4081757166>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail-m_-6843211637560940448yiv1766438285gmail_attr =
dir=3Dltr>On=20
    Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 8:54 AM Charles Schott, &lt;<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:schottc@knology.net"; shape=3Drect rel=3Dnofollow=20
    target=3D_blank>schottc@knology.net</A>&gt; wrote:<BR =
clear=3Dnone></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE =
class=3Dgmail-m_-6843211637560940448yiv1766438285gmail_quote=20
    style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; =
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      <DIV=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "times new roman","new =
york",times,serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>
      <DIV>I bought that socket from Moss and used an impact gun to =
loosen the=20
      nuts. It nearly wallowed out the square hole. A very soft metal. =
Once I=20
      get the nuts back on, I will return it to Moss as defective.</DIV>
      <DIV><BR clear=3Dnone></DIV>
      <DIV>Regards,</DIV>
      <DIV><BR clear=3Dnone></DIV>
      <DIV>Charlie Schott</DIV>
      <DIV><BR clear=3Dnone></DIV>
      <HR=20
      =
id=3Dgmail-m_-6843211637560940448yiv1766438285m_-5458101249956841669zwchr=
>

      <DIV=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); =
FONT-STYLE: normal"><B>From:=20
      </B>"Michael MacLean" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net"=20
      shape=3Drect rel=3Dnofollow =
target=3D_blank>rrengineer.mike@att.net</A>&gt;<BR=20
      clear=3Dnone><B>To: </B>"Healeys" &lt;<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; shape=3Drect rel=3Dnofollow =

      target=3D_blank>healeys@autox.team.net</A>&gt;<BR =
clear=3Dnone><B>Sent:=20
      </B>Wednesday, June 26, 2019 3:36:49 AM<BR =
clear=3Dnone><B>Subject:=20
      </B>[Healeys] Nothing Goes Right<BR clear=3Dnone>
      <DIV><BR clear=3Dnone></DIV>
      <DIV=20
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hoo-style-wrap=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: "times new roman","new =
york",times,serif'>
      <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I ordered the 8 point 2 3/16" hub nut =
wrench from=20
      Moss so I can torque the hub nut down.&nbsp; The 2 13/64ths tube =
wrench I=20
      have is too big and just slips off when I apply any pressure to =
the=20
      nut.&nbsp; I'll never get it torqued down that way.&nbsp; I called =
the=20
      Moss tech line to ask if the new flimsy looking tube hub nut =
wrench they=20
      now sell will let me torque the nut to 150 ft lbs.&nbsp; Almost =
before I=20
      could finish asking him, he said, "that's what we designed it =
for!"&nbsp;=20
      I am not convinced.&nbsp; Go to the online Moss catalog and look =
at part=20
      number 384-907.&nbsp; Tell me that looks like a tool you can put a =
lot of=20
      torque on a 1/4" thick nut.<BR clear=3Dnone></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Now look at the picture I have =
included in=20
      this email.&nbsp; I want to install my nice re-chromed emergency =
brake=20
      handle and new emergency brake cable.&nbsp; If you look at the =
restored=20
      handle on the left you may notice something odd.&nbsp; The ratchet =
plate=20
      that bolts to the tunnel is for a handbrake that is installed on =
the=20
      driver's side of the tunnel.&nbsp; Only problem is, the BN2 =
emergency=20
      brake handle is on the passenger side.&nbsp; I have a good parts =
brake=20
      handle, (the handle on the right in the picture) at least I =
thought I=20
      did.&nbsp; The ratchet plate is corroded solid on the shaft.&nbsp; =
I have=20
      been soaking it in PB Blaster for a couple of days.&nbsp; I think =
it is=20
      going to need a blue wrench.&nbsp; Of course I don't have =
one.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Every thing I do to this car to put =
it back=20
      together is a fight.&nbsp; Nothing is easy, nothing goes =
right.&nbsp; So,=20
      I am looking for a emergency brake handle ratchet plate like the =
one on=20
      the right in my picture.&nbsp; I'm willing to pay.&nbsp; <BR=20
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