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Re: [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice

To: Ron Fine <ronfineesq@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice
From: Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 16:38:53 -0700 (MST)
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Thread-topic: LED Headlight Conversion advice
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mmmm... well you asked for it ... !!=20

Moss gives H4 LED at 25 W per light=20
Typical halogen H4 is around 55W=20
Thus a net savings of 30 W per light.=20
1W =3D 1J per sec=20
1kWh is 3.6 mJ=20
So extra energy used/saved is 0.03 kW per hour=20
=3D 0.108 mJ per hour=20
using 35mJ energy content per litre of gasoline=20
... mmm no comments about regular or hi octane please !=20
this translates into 3.7ml =3D approx. 2.5 teaspoons per hour per light sav=
ing=20

So 5 teaspoons per hour net saving for both lights.=20
Note this is just the electrical energy savings.=20

So allowing 90% efficy for generator and say 30% for the IC engine likely n=
et saving is around 18.5 teaspoons or 23.1 ml per hour !!=20

rg=20




From: "Ron Fine" <ronfineesq@earthlink.net>=20
To: "Al Fuller" <alfuller194@gmail.com>, "AH Mail List" <healeys@autox.team=
.net>=20
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 9:47:47 AM=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice=20

I am wondering what the energy savings would be between these LED lights an=
d the standard sealed beam lights I now use?=20
Ron Fine=20
From: Al Fuller=20
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 5:08 AM=20
To: AH Mail List=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice=20
Any idea of who besides little British carry the kit?=20

Al Fuller=20
On Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 2:45 AM Michael MacLean < rrengineer.mike@att.net wro=
te:=20


I bought the same pair of conversion LED headlights last week for $76.63 on=
 sale with Little British Car Co. Sounds like the sale is over. Going to pu=
t them on my Bugeye.=20
Mike MacLean=20

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android=20


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On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 8:10 PM, Bob Haskell=20
< rchaskell@earthlink.net > wrote:=20
Listers,=20
Just got the weekly email from Little British Car Company and they're=20
selling a pair of semi-sealed 7" round headlight with H4 LED bulbs that=20
will work with positive or negative ground for about $90 (P/N=20
171-LEDHL101). NFI.=20
Cheers,=20
Bob Haskell=20
Austin Healey 3000 MkI registrar=20
http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php=20
On 2/20/19 3:42 PM, bgdrab@eastlink.ca wrote:=20
> Since I posted that I had the led lights and loved them I have had=20
> several enquiries asking me from whom and what kind I used. To further=20
> clarify my post on LED headlights, I had some original Lucas Tripod=20
> headlights in my car. They did not use the H4 bulb but a much larger=20
> bulb with a much larger base. The set I got was from the UK and included=
=20
> an adapter ring which allowed me to use the H$ style LED bulb in my=20
> Tripod headlights.=20
>=20
> I unfortunately don=E2=80=99t remember the name of the company I=E2=80=99=
d got the=20
> lights from nor the exact price but I believe the all in price including=
=20
> shipping was around $125. I=E2=80=99m going to dig through some informati=
on=20
> that I have and try to locate the company name and the headlight kit=20
> name. I=E2=80=99ll post that info when (and if) I find it. I do have to=
=20
> reiterate =E2=80=93 the difference is well worth the effort, especially i=
f you=20
> do a lot of night driving.=20
>=20
> It is also worth noting that these aren=E2=80=99t a simple conversion fro=
m=20
> sealed beams as some thought. You must have the European style head=20
> lights with a replaceable bulb.=20
>=20
> Brian Drab=20
>=20
> *From:* warthodson@aol.com < warthodson@aol.com >=20
> *Sent:* February 19, 2019 8:26 AM=20
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net=20
> *Subject:* [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice=20
>=20
> There seems to be a big difference between the two options (Litezupp &=20
> Moss) listed below.=20
>=20
> I am not familiar enough with each to understand the pros & cons of=20
> each. Obviously, the Litzupp is a simple bulb replacement, While the=20
> Moss product requites some wiring adaptions.=20
>=20
> The Litzupp appear to be screw in bases, not the type of base used in=20
> non-sealed beam headlights. Do they offer just the replacement bulb that=
=20
> would fit into an existing vintage non-sealed beam head lamp?=20
>=20
> Gary Hodson=20
>=20
> Litezupp Ind. LLC. Www.litezupp.com < http://Www.litezupp.com >=20
>=20
> Ira Erbs=20
> Portland, OR=20
> typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone=20
>=20
> Op 19-2-2019 om 05:21 schreef Bob Spidell:=20
>=20
> Either:=20
> https://mossmotors.com/led-conversion-kits-for-7-h4-headlamps=20
>=20
> (see option dropdown)=20
>=20
>=20
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s=
ize: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>&nbsp;mmmm... well you asked for it ... !!<=
br></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Moss gives H4 LED at 25 W=
 per light<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Typical halogen H4 is around =
55W <br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Thus a net savings of 30 W per ligh=
t.<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>1W =3D 1J per sec<br data-mce-bogus=
=3D"1"></div><div>1kWh is 3.6 mJ<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>So extr=
a energy used/saved is 0.03 kW per hour </div><div>=3D 0.108 mJ per hour<br=
 data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>using 35mJ energy content per litre of gas=
oline <br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>... mmm no comments about regular=
 or hi octane please !<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>this translates i=
nto 3.7ml =3D approx. 2.5 teaspoons per hour per light saving<br data-mce-b=
ogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>So 5 teaspoons pe=
r hour net saving for both lights.<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Note =
this is just the electrical energy savings.<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><=
div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>So allowing 90% efficy for generato=
r and say 30% for the IC engine likely net saving is around 18.5 teaspoons =
or 23.1 ml per hour !!<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogu=
s=3D"1"></div><div>rg<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=
=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"z=
wchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>From:=
 </b>"Ron Fine" &lt;ronfineesq@earthlink.net&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"Al Fuller" =
&lt;alfuller194@gmail.com&gt;, "AH Mail List" &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt=
;<br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, February 25, 2019 9:47:47 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>R=
e: [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice<br></div><div><br></div><div d=
ata-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-size: 10=
pt; font-family: 'Arial'; color: #000000;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10p=
t; font-family: 'Arial'; color: #000000;"><div>I am wondering what the ener=
gy savings would be between these LED lights and the standard sealed beam l=
ights I now use?</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Ron Fine</div><div style=3D"fon=
t-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: 'Calibri'; font-weight: =
normal; color: #000000; font-style: normal; display: inline;" data-mce-styl=
e=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: 'Calibri'; font-=
weight: normal; color: #000000; font-style: normal; display: inline;"><div =
style=3D"font: 10pt tahoma;" data-mce-style=3D"font: 10pt tahoma;"><div>&nb=
sp;</div><div style=3D"background: #f5f5f5;" data-mce-style=3D"background: =
#f5f5f5;"><div style=3D"font-color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-color: b=
lack;"><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"alfuller194@gmail.com">Al Fuller</a><br dat=
a-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 25, 2019 5:08 AM=
</div><div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net">AH Mail List</a><=
br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] LED Headli=
ght Conversion advice</div></div></div><div>&nbsp;</div></div><div style=3D=
"font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: 'Calibri'; font-weig=
ht: normal; color: #000000; font-style: normal; display: inline;" data-mce-=
style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: 'Calibri'; f=
ont-weight: normal; color: #000000; font-style: normal; display: inline;"><=
div>Any idea of who besides little British carry the kit?<br><br><div>Al Fu=
ller</div></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
">On Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 2:45 AM Michael MacLean &lt;<a>rrengineer.mike@att.=
net</a> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"padding-=
left: 1ex; border-left: #ccc 1px solid; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;" data-mc=
e-style=3D"padding-left: 1ex; border-left: #ccc 1px solid; margin: 0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;">I bought the same pair of conversion LED headlights last week f=
or $76.63 on sale with Little British Car Co.&nbsp; Sounds like the sale is=
 over.&nbsp; Going to put them on my Bugeye.<div id=3D"m_-33160558275260448=
82yMail_cursorElementTracker_1551073843957">Mike MacLean<br id=3D"m_-331605=
5827526044882yMail_cursorElementTracker_1551073725956"><br><div id=3D"m_-33=
16055827526044882ymail_android_signature"><a id=3D"m_-3316055827526044882ym=
ail_android_signature_link" href=3D"https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=3DI=
nProduct&amp;c=3DGlobal_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&amp;=
af_wl=3Dym&amp;af_sub1=3DInternal&amp;af_sub2=3DGlobal_YGrowth&amp;af_sub3=
=3DEmailSignature" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"ht=
tps://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=3DInProduct&amp;c=3DGlobal_Internal_YGrow=
th_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&amp;af_wl=3Dym&amp;af_sub1=3DInternal&amp;=
af_sub2=3DGlobal_YGrowth&amp;af_sub3=3DEmailSignature">Sent from Yahoo Mail=
 on Android</a><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><br><blockquote style=3D"marg=
in: 0px 0px 20px;" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 20px;"><div style=3D"f=
ont-family: roboto,sans-serif; color: #6d00f6;" data-mce-style=3D"font-fami=
ly: roboto,sans-serif; color: #6d00f6;"><div>On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 8:10 P=
M, Bob Haskell</div><div>&lt;<a rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">rchask=
ell@earthlink.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div></div><div style=3D"border-left: #6d0=
0f6 1px solid; margin: 10px 0px 0px; padding: 10px 0px 0px 20px;" data-mce-=
style=3D"border-left: #6d00f6 1px solid; margin: 10px 0px 0px; padding: 10p=
x 0px 0px 20px;"><div dir=3D"ltr">Listers,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Just got the weekly email from Little British Car Co=
mpany and they're <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">selling a pair of semi-sealed =
7" round headlight with H4 LED bulbs that <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">will w=
ork with positive or negative ground for about $90 (P/N <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">171-LEDHL101).&nbsp; NFI.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Cheers,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Bob Haskell<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Austin Healey 3000 MkI registrar<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.p=
hp" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.ciahc.=
org/registry_3000mk1.php">http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php</a><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">On 2/20/19 3:42 PM, <a =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">bgdrab@eastlink.ca</a> wrote:<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Since I posted that I had the led lights and loved t=
hem I have had <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; several enquiries asking me =
from whom and what kind I used. To further <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; =
clarify my post on LED headlights, I had some original Lucas Tripod <br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; headlights in my car. They did not use the H4 bulb=
 but a much larger <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; bulb with a much larger =
base. The set I got was from the UK and included <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt; an adapter ring which allowed me to use the H$ style LED bulb in my <=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Tripod headlights.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I unfortunately don=E2=80=99t remembe=
r the name of the company I=E2=80=99d got the <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t; lights from nor the exact price but I believe the all in price including=
 <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; shipping was around $125.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99=
m going to dig through some information <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; tha=
t I have and try to locate the company name and the headlight kit <br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; name. I=E2=80=99ll post that info when (and if) I fi=
nd it. I do have to <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; reiterate =E2=80=93 the=
 difference is well worth the effort, especially if you <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; do a lot of night driving.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; It is also worth noting that these aren=E2=80=
=99t a simple conversion from <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; sealed beams =
as some thought. You must have the European style head <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; lights with a replaceable bulb.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Brian Drab<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=
 <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *From:*<a rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
ank">warthodson@aol.com</a> &lt;<a rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">war=
thodson@aol.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *Sent:* February 19,=
 2019 8:26 AM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *To:* <a rel=3D"noreferrer" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *=
Subject:* [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; There seems to be a big difference =
between the two options (Litezupp &amp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Mos=
s) listed below.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
&gt; I am not familiar enough with each to understand the pros &amp; cons o=
f <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; each. Obviously, the Litzupp is a simple =
bulb replacement, While the <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Moss product re=
quites some wiring adaptions.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt; The Litzupp appear to be screw in bases, not the type of =
base used in <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; non-sealed beam headlights. Do=
 they offer just the replacement bulb that <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; =
would fit into an existing vintage non-sealed beam head lamp?<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Gary Hodson<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Litezupp Ind. LLC. <a hre=
f=3D"http://Www.litezupp.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" data-mce=
-href=3D"http://Www.litezupp.com";>Www.litezupp.com</a> &lt;<a href=3D"http:=
//Www.litezupp.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"h=
ttp://Www.litezupp.com">http://Www.litezupp.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Ira Erbs<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt; Portland, OR<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; typos and artifacts =
are the fault of my phone<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Op 19-2-2019 om 05:21 schreef Bob Spidell:<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Either:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=3D"https://mossmotors.com/led-c=
onversion-kits-for-7-h4-headlamps" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" dat=
a-mce-href=3D"https://mossmotors.com/led-conversion-kits-for-7-h4-headlamps=
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