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Re: [Healeys] Lightweight Flywheel

To: John Rowe <john@jtkarowe.com.au>, 'Charles Schott' <schottc@knology.net>, "michaelsalter@gmail.com" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lightweight Flywheel
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With regard to the weight of the flywheel in the 100 I doubt that a lot of =
design went into optimization of that detail at the time the flywheel was s=
pecified. Remember the origins of  that engine which was a truncated versio=
n of the 6 cylinder Austin lorry engine. It was originally supposed to be u=
sed as a wartime replacement for worn out engines in Willys Jeeps should su=
ch become necessary. The war ended before such replacement was needed and s=
o Austin ended up with a surplus of these engines in search of a purpose. U=
nder those circumstances I would guess that the flywheel used on these engi=
nes was carried over from the Austin 4 liter lorry engine.

If that is the case then there would be a lot of excess steel that can be s=
afely shed for a smaller engine in a light weight vehicle such as an Austin=
 Healey.

Bill Lawrence
BN1 #554
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of John Rowe <john=
@jtkarowe.com.au>
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 8:55 AM
To: 'Charles Schott'; michaelsalter@gmail.com
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lightweight Flywheel


I put a flywheel of the early 6 cylinder on my 100- probably about half the=
 weight of the original.

Motor was a little more than M-spec with flat top pistons.

Made it more lively boy no difference in tractability.

I must admit I never revved it hard, there being no need to.

A good mod in my opinion

John Rowe

Qld Australia



From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charles =
Schott
Sent: Saturday, 5 January 2019 12:45 AM
To: michaelsalter@gmail.com
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lightweight Flywheel



Michael,



Thanks for the informative article. What is the affect of a lighter flywhee=
l on the performance of the engine, especially in every day driving?



Regards,



Charlie



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From: "Michael Salter" <michael.salter@gmail.com>
To: "Charlie Schott" <schottc@knology.net>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lightweight Flywheel



Read this first

http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2017/01/03/austin-healey-100-crank-failur=
es/



ottc@knology.net> wrote:

Has anyone used a lightweight flywheel on their 100 BN1? I plan on going wi=
th a complete Le Mans kit and a lightweight flywheel and the car will be fo=
r street use. If you have, what are your thoughts on it? Thanks.



Regards,



Charlie Schott



________________________________

l.com>>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:51:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] tri power for sale



I encourage as many people as possible to "M" up their 100's.

Makes original cars that much more valuable.



M



dell@comcast.net> wrote:

My understanding is that the 'kits' installed by dealers varied; the
complete one--the one done at the Healey shop--includes higher
compression pistons, a more aggressive cam, some suspension tweaks
(stiffer shocks, maybe a larger anti-sway bar), a different distributor
and, of course, the louvred bonnet.

Someone wrote up a list of mods that could be done--even better cam
profile, for example--that could be done to a 'stock' BN1/2 to achieve
performance superior to a M, while keeping the original 'flavor' of the car=
.

Bob

 wrote:
> Well, for starters you can look at page A34 of the  Moss Motors
> catalogue.  The section labeled "100M Conversion".  It may be a
> different page on the latest catalogue.  Carbs, Manifold set, cold air
> box,etc.
>
> -Roland
>
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 18:48:10 -0500 (EST), you wrote:
>
>> I recently purchased a 1955 100-4 for a frame off restoration. Since I'm=
 going to rebuild the engine, I'd like to give it the "M" upgrade. Does any=
one know where I can purchase the parts for what they call the LeMans kit? =
Thanks.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Charlie Schott
>>
>>
>>
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With regard to the weight of the flywheel in the 100 I doubt that a lot of =
design went into optimization of that detail at the time the flywheel was s=
pecified. Remember the origins of &nbsp;that engine which was a truncated v=
ersion of the 6 cylinder Austin lorry
 engine. It was originally supposed to be used as a wartime replacement for=
 worn out engines in Willys Jeeps should such become necessary. The war end=
ed before such replacement was needed and so Austin ended up with a surplus=
 of these engines in search of a
 purpose. Under those circumstances I would guess that the flywheel used on=
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If that is the case then there would be a lot of excess steel that can be s=
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot=
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot=
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:#1F497D">A good mod in my opin=
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Charles Schott<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 5 January 2019 12:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> michaelsalter@gmail.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> healeys@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Lightweight Flywheel</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Thanks for the informa=
tive article. What is the affect of a lighter flywheel on the performance o=
f the engine, especially in every day driving?</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Regards,</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Charlie</span></p>
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;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:black">From:
</span></b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;; color:black">&quot;Michael Salter&quot; &lt;michael.salter@gmail.c=
om&gt;<br>
<b>To: </b>&quot;Charlie Schott&quot; &lt;schottc@knology.net&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b>healeys@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03:22 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Lightweight Flywheel</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:black">Read this first&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:black"><a href=3D"http://www.netbug.net/blogmi=
chael/2017/01/03/austin-healey-100-crank-failures/" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2017/01/03/austin-healey-100-crank-failures/</=
a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:black">On Thu, Jan 3, 2019, 7:42 PM Charles Sc=
hott &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:schottc@knology.net"; target=3D"_blank">schottc@k=
nology.net</a> wrote:</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Has anyone used a ligh=
tweight flywheel on their 100 BN1? I plan on going with a complete Le Mans =
kit and a lightweight flywheel and the car will be for street use. If you h=
ave, what are your thoughts on it? Thanks.</span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Regards,</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Charlie Schott</span><=
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;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:black">From:
</span></b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;; color:black">&quot;Michael Salter&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mich=
ael.salter@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">michael.salter@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br=
>
<b>To: </b>&quot;Bob Spidell&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.n=
et" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">heal=
eys@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:51:43 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] tri power for sale</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:black">I encourage as many people as possible =
to &quot;M&quot; up their 100's.</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:black">Makes original cars that much more valu=
able.&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:black">M</span></p>
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quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:black">On Thu, Dec 20, 2018, 9:52 AM Bob Spide=
ll &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank">bspidell@c=
omcast.net</a> wrote:</span></p>
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0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt; margin-left:4.8pt; margin-right:0cm">
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font=
-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:black">My under=
standing is that the 'kits' installed by dealers varied; the
<br>
complete one--the one done at the Healey shop--includes higher <br>
compression pistons, a more aggressive cam, some suspension tweaks <br>
(stiffer shocks, maybe a larger anti-sway bar), a different distributor <br=
>
and, of course, the louvred bonnet.<br>
<br>
Someone wrote up a list of mods that could be done--even better cam <br>
profile, for example--that could be done to a 'stock' BN1/2 to achieve <br>
performance superior to a M, while keeping the original 'flavor' of the car=
.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
On 12/19/2018 11:14 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:sentenac.rw@gmail.com"; target=3D"=
_blank">sentenac.rw@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
&gt; Well, for starters you can look at page A34 of the&nbsp; Moss Motors<b=
r>
&gt; catalogue.&nbsp; The section labeled &quot;100M Conversion&quot;.&nbsp=
; It may be a<br>
&gt; different page on the latest catalogue.&nbsp; Carbs, Manifold set, col=
d air<br>
&gt; box,etc.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -Roland<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 18:48:10 -0500 (EST), you wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I recently purchased a 1955 100-4 for a frame off restoration. Sin=
ce I'm going to rebuild the engine, I'd like to give it the &quot;M&quot; u=
pgrade. Does anyone know where I can purchase the parts for what they call =
the LeMans kit? Thanks.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Regards,<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Charlie Schott<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
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