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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel gauge damper's super capacitor
From: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 17:44:51 +0100
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It may be better to use a length of braided wire which is very flexibel 
and not prone to breaking up easily, similar to the wire in the distributer.

Kees Oudesluijs



Op 15-11-2018 om 14:18 schreef Michael Salter:
> I have read about this idea many times and never heard of anyone 
> having their tank explode as a result ... probably because they didn't 
> survive!!!
> Such a modification is really not necessary as the following solution 
> works perfectly.
>
> http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2015/09/06/smiths-and-jaegar-fuel-gauge-solution/
>
> M
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018, 7:26 AM John Harper <ah100register@gmail.com 
>
>     Simon
>
>     Don't do it. Petrol will ignite if sufficient energy is applied. A
>     capacitor could provide such energy.
>
>     Best regards
>
>     On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 at 10:15, <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
>
>         Hi,
>
>         Questions for the tech type super-gurus.
>
>         See the attached article, something I picked up on the
>         internet &/or from this list.
>
>         Iâ??ve finally got round to doing it and have bought a pair of
>         super-capacitors (SC), below:
>
>         
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-Pcs-4-0F-5-5-V-Super-Capacitor-H-Type-Button-Smart-Capacitance-Universal/272412952404?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
>
>         The article infers to me, at least, that the + terminal of the
>         SC is wired directly to the same terminal connection on the
>         gauge as the wire from the tank sender unit. The â?? terminal is
>         earthed. How does that system work? Wonâ??t the tankâ??s
>         fluctuating signal, for want of a better word, simply bypass
>         the SC and carry on flickering the needle??
>
>         And, assuming I ever get the wiring sorted out, will the SC
>         get hot? Mine has a metal case and Iâ??ve had to thoroughly
>         insulate it. I have visions of the fuel gauge working nicely
>         until the insulation catches fire���
>
>         Simon
>
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    <p>It may be better to use a length of braided wire which is very
      flexibel and not prone to breaking up easily, similar to the wire
      in the distributer.</p>
    <p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
    <p><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 15-11-2018 om 14:18 schreef Michael
      Salter:<br>
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      <div dir="auto">I have read about this idea many times and never
        heard of anyone having their tank explode as a result ...
        probably because they didn't survive!!!
        <div dir="auto">Such a modification is really not necessary as
          the following solution works perfectly.<br>
          <div dir="auto"><br>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto"><a
href="http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2015/09/06/smiths-and-jaegar-fuel-gauge-solution/";
              
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2015/09/06/smiths-and-jaegar-fuel-gauge-solution/</a><br>
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          <div dir="auto">M</div>
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        <div dir="ltr">On Thu, Nov 15, 2018, 7:26 AM John Harper &lt;<a
            href="mailto:ah100register@gmail.com"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">ah100register@gmail.com</a>
          wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">Simon
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            <div>Don't do it. Petrol will ignite if sufficient energy is
              applied. A capacitor could provide such energy.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Best regards</div>
          </div>
          <br>
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            <div dir="ltr">On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 at 10:15, &lt;<a
                href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";
                target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Hi, </p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Questions for the tech type
                    super-gurus.</p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">See the attached article,
                    something I picked up on the internet &amp;/or from
                    this list.</p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Iâ??ve finally got round to doing
                    it and have bought a pair of super-capacitors (SC),
                    below:</p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-Pcs-4-0F-5-5-V-Super-Capacitor-H-Type-Button-Smart-Capacitance-Universal/272412952404?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&amp;_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649";
                      target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                      
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-Pcs-4-0F-5-5-V-Super-Capacitor-H-Type-Button-Smart-Capacitance-Universal/272412952404?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&amp;_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649</a></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">The article infers to me, at
                    least, that the + terminal of the SC is wired
                    directly to the same terminal connection on the
                    gauge as the wire from the tank sender unit. The â??
                    terminal is earthed. How does that system work?
                    Wonâ??t the tankâ??s fluctuating signal, for want of a
                    better word, simply bypass the SC and carry on
                    flickering the needle??</p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">And, assuming I ever get the
                    wiring sorted out, will the SC get hot? Mine has a
                    metal case and Iâ??ve had to thoroughly insulate it. I
                    have visions of the fuel gauge working nicely until
                    the insulation catches fire���</p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Simon</p>
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