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To: Healey Bruce <healeybruce@roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Questions of the day
From: Michael Salter <michael.salter@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 08:30:34 -0500
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FWIW after installing all the electics I fit a 12 VDC buzzer between the
battery terminal and ground cable before testing anything.
With everything turner off the buzzer should not sound.
This test confirms that there is no risk of an immediate short circuit.
Next I jumper the flasher unit (to protect it from shorts to ground in the
turn signal system) and replace the buzzer with 50 breaker (actually from
the heated rear window of a Chevrolet Vega, I've had it a while) before
testing each except the starter.
Such a breaker will trip before any of the precious smoke leaks out.
Only after all systems work correctly with these protections do I hook up
the ground cable and remove the flasher unit jumper then flash the
generator before starting the engine.
A burned wiring harness in a new restoration is not fun!!

M


On Fri, Nov 9, 2018, 1:07 AM Bruce Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com wrote=
:

> Bob, I agree it is extra work, but I wanted to be extra careful and
> thorough, especially the first time I had pulled everything out of dash
> when I did the interior and had the dash panel out.  My wiring wasn=E2=80=
=99t
> totally stock.  Now, I would feel comfortable doing the job with just the
> wiring diagram.  Indeed, I went sans tape when I installed my second wiri=
ng
> harness.  Yes, second.  Don=E2=80=99t ask.  I also installed a fuse block=
 and made
> an auxiliary wiring diagram.
>
>
>
> Bruce Steele
>
> Brea, CA
>
> 1960 BN7
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Bo=
b
> Spidell
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:10 PM
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Questions of the day
>
>
>
> On the contrarian side, seems like extra work to me.  I wired a bare BN2
> chassis just using the schematic in the shop manual and going by the colo=
r
> codes.  Got it 100% correct, but one of the wires in the harness had the
> wrong colors and the rear turn signals didn't work right, so keep an eye
> out for that kind of goof.  Took a while to debug that one (even opened u=
p
> the relay box).
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> On 11/8/2018 10:31 AM, Bruce Steele wrote:
>
> I second blue painters tape.
>
>
>
> Bruce Steele
>
> Brea, CA
>
> 1960 BN7
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
> <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net>] *On Behalf Of *Team.net
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 08, 2018 3:50 AM
> *To:* Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl> <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
> *Cc:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Questions of the day
>
>
>
> Use blue painters tape
>
> Easily removed
>
> It won=E2=80=99t tear up the loom
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2018, at 3:46 AM, Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl> wrote=
:
>
> I always use masking tape, cheap and easily written on with ballpoint,
> pencil or marker.
>
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
> Op 7-11-2018 om 22:23 schreef Michael MacLean:
>
> I have a good vacuum unit for a distributor with the markings 421943 and
> 7-18-12.  can anyone tell me the application of this unit?  Second
> question.  What is best to use to label the wire ends of my wiring harnes=
s
> for installation?
>
> Mike MacLean
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">FWIW after installing all the electics I fit a 12 VDC buz=
zer between the battery terminal and ground cable before testing anything.=
=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">With everything turner off the buzzer should not so=
und.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">This test confirms that there is no risk =
of an immediate short circuit.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Next I jumper the fla=
sher unit (to protect it from shorts to ground in the turn signal system) a=
nd replace the buzzer with 50 breaker (actually from the heated rear window=
 of a Chevrolet Vega, I&#39;ve had it a while) before testing each except t=
he starter.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">Such a breaker will trip before an=
y of the precious smoke leaks out.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Only after all sy=
stems work correctly with these protections do I hook up the ground cable a=
nd remove the flasher unit jumper then flash the generator before starting =
the engine.</div><div dir=3D"auto">A burned wiring harness in a new restora=
tion is not fun!!</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div=
><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">On Fri, Nov 9, 2018, 1:07 AM Bruce Steele &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:he=
aleybruce@roadrunner.com">healeybruce@roadrunner.com</a> wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px =
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor=3D"white" lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"=
blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_8531201601615450205WordSection1"><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,san=
s-serif;color:windowtext">Bob, I agree it is extra work, but I wanted to be=
 extra careful and thorough, especially the first time I had pulled everyth=
ing out of dash when I did the interior and had the dash panel out.=C2=A0 M=
y wiring wasn=E2=80=99t totally stock.=C2=A0 Now, I would feel comfortable =
doing the job with just the wiring diagram.=C2=A0 Indeed, I went sans tape =
when I installed my second wiring harness.=C2=A0 Yes, second.=C2=A0 Don=E2=
=80=99t ask.=C2=A0 I also installed a fuse block and made an auxiliary wiri=
ng diagram.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Bruce Steele<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebu=
chet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Brea, CA<u></u><u></u></span></p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sa=
ns-serif;color:#1f497d">1960 BN7<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"border:n=
one;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:windowtext"> Healeys [=
mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>=
Bob Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:10 PM<br><b>To:<=
/b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Questio=
ns of the day<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u=
></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p>On the contrarian side, seems like extra work to m=
e.=C2=A0 I wired a bare BN2 chassis just using the schematic in the shop ma=
nual and going by the color codes.=C2=A0 Got it 100% correct, but one of th=
e wires in the harness had the wrong colors and the rear turn signals didn&=
#39;t work right, so keep an eye out for that kind of goof.=C2=A0 Took a wh=
ile to debug that one (even opened up the relay box).<u></u><u></u></p><p>B=
ob<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">On 11/8/2018 10:31 AM, Bruce Steele wrote:<u></u><u></u=
></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS ,sans-serif=
&quot;,serif">I second blue painters tape.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS ,sans-serif&qu=
ot;,serif">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bruce=
 Steele<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Brea, CA<u></u><u></u></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">1960 BN7<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS ,sans-serif&quot;,serif">=
=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:so=
lid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Fro=
m:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,sans-serif"> Healeys [<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</=
a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Team.net<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 08, 201=
8 3:50 AM<br><b>To:</b> Kees Oudesluijs <a href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chell=
o.nl" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">&lt;coudesluijs@chello.nl&gt;</a=
><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
 rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heal=
eys] Questions of the day</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Use blue pain=
ters tape<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Easily removed=
<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">It won=E2=80=99t tear u=
p the loom<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"marg=
in-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On Nov 8, 2018, at 3:46 AM, Kees Oudesluijs &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">co=
udesluijs@chello.nl</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=
=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p>I always use masking tape=
, cheap and easily written on with ballpoint, pencil or marker.<u></u><u></=
u></p><p>Kees Oudesluijs<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Op 7-=
11-2018 om 22:23 schreef Michael MacLean:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquot=
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yle=3D"background:white">I have a good vacuum unit for a distributor with t=
he markings 421943 and 7-18-12.=C2=A0 can anyone tell me the application of=
 this unit?=C2=A0 Second question.=C2=A0 What is best to use to label the w=
ire ends of my wiring harness for installation?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white">Mike MacLean<u></u><u></=
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