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Re: [Healeys] Which Harness?

To: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Which Harness?
From: Michael Salter <michael.salter@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 12:28:23 -0400
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 *"According to an article (with a picture) on John Simms website by Rich
Chysler the BN2 had the flasher unit on the inside face of the firewall"*
Yes that is correct for all 100's Michael. There is a grommet through which
the 2/3 wires pass to connect with the flasher unit. I suspect, as flasher
units were pretty new technology at the time, there was some concern as to
their weather or heat resistance.

M

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 4:27 AM Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
wrote:

> According to an article (with a picture) on John Simms website by Rich
> Chysler the BN2 had the flasher unit on the inside face of the firewall.
> Now I'm confused.
> Mike MacLean
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> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 11:34 AM, rwilhelmy@sbcglobal.net
> <rwilhelmy@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> couple of easy differences:  BN1 had two relays to control the
> overdrive circuit.  BN2 had one.  BN1 had flasher located under the
> dash where it is almost impossible to access.  BN2 had it on the
> engine side of the firewall.
>
> Nothing wrong with PVC insulation.  Actually the braided stuff had PVC
> or rubber insulation underneath the braids.  Only problem with PVC is
> that the color coding has to be different, which adds to confusion.
>
> Rhode Island Wiring is the gold standard for wiring for Healeys.
> http://www.riwire.com/
> very expensive, but if you go to their website and look for foreign
> cars/Austin-Healey, under BN2 you will find a list of 15 different
> pieces that they offer, two of them are pairs like the headlights.
> Some of them are ground straps.  But several are pretty complex.  This
> should help you figure out what pieces you were given, although some
> wiring providers combined a couple of the harnesses so be prepared for
> that too.
>
> The harnesses connect together with bullet connectors, as you probably
> know.  RI Wiring provides theirs already soldered and crimped in place
> but yours may need to be installed.
>
> Even with RI Wiring's detailed diagrams, I had to lay out the
> harnesses and attach tags to each wire end to sort out what went
> where.  Occasionally you will need 'siamesed' bullet connector sockets
> that allow you to connect three or four wires together.  They are
> available if you don't have them.  Also there is a tool that makes it
> a lot easier to push the bullets into the sockets (but not to get them
> out).  NOS bullets and sockets are best if you can find them.  Be
> prepared for fitting problems with the aftermarket ones, though some
> are better than others.
>
> Make sure you have all of the grommets that you need, especially the
> big one on the firewall that needs special care to feed the harness
> through.  Put the grommet on the harness before you start that part.
>
> Take your time.
>
> -Roland
>
> On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 05:22:25 +0000 (UTC), you wrote:
>
> >     I have a wiring harness that was given to me by a restorer friend
> just before he passed away.  He told me it was a BN2 harness.  It is cloth
> with PVC wires.  The pictures I have of most restorations that clearly show
> the main harness against the firewall are cloth and braid covered wires.  I
> can see the color codes of the braided wires that align with some of the
> PVC wires of my harness, but I seem to have a few extra wires coming out of
> the harness where there should not be any.  How can I tell the difference
> between a BN1 and a BN2 main harness that is cloth and PVC.  There is also
> four smaller harnesses of which I am sure one or more will connect to the
> main harness somewhere.  A little bit more to deal with here than my Bugeye
> that I installed in 2000.Mike MacLean
> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
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<i>&quot;According to an article (with a picture) on John Simms website by =
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Chysler the BN2 had the flasher unit on the inside face of the firewall&quo=
t;</i></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms=
,sans-serif;font-size:small">Yes that is correct for all 100&#39;s Michael.=
 There is a grommet through which the 2/3 wires pass to connect with the fl=
asher unit. I suspect, as flasher units were pretty new technology at the t=
ime, there was some concern as to their weather or heat resistance.</div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:=
comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">M<br>

</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Nov 2, =
2018 at 4:27 AM Michael MacLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.n=
et">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">According to an article (with a picture) on John Simms website by R=
ich Chysler the BN2 had the flasher unit on the inside face of the firewall=
.=C2=A0 Now I&#39;m confused.<div id=3D"m_6617408040824321430yMail_cursorEl=
ementTracker_1541146372071">Mike MacLean<br id=3D"m_6617408040824321430yMai=
l_cursorElementTracker_1541146258464"><br><div id=3D"m_6617408040824321430y=
mail_android_signature"><a href=3D"https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=3DIn=
Product&amp;c=3DGlobal_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&amp;a=
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=3DEmailSignature" target=3D"_blank">Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android</a></d=
iv> <br> <blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 20px 0"> <div style=3D"font-family=
:Roboto,sans-serif;color:#6d00f6"> <div>On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 11:34 AM, <a=
 href=3D"mailto:rwilhelmy@sbcglobal.net"; target=3D"_blank">rwilhelmy@sbcglo=
bal.net</a></div><div>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rwilhelmy@sbcglobal.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">rwilhelmy@sbcglobal.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div> </div> <div style=
=3D"padding:10px 0 0 20px;margin:10px 0 0 0;border-left:1px solid #6d00f6">=
 couple of easy differences:=C2=A0 BN1 had two relays to control the<br cle=
ar=3D"none">overdrive circuit.=C2=A0 BN2 had one.=C2=A0 BN1 had flasher loc=
ated under the<br clear=3D"none">dash where it is almost impossible to acce=
ss.=C2=A0 BN2 had it on the<br clear=3D"none">engine side of the firewall.<=
br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Nothing wrong with PVC insulation.=C2=
=A0 Actually the braided stuff had PVC<br clear=3D"none">or rubber insulati=
on underneath the braids.=C2=A0 Only problem with PVC is<br clear=3D"none">=
that the color coding has to be different, which adds to confusion.<br clea=
r=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Rhode Island Wiring is the gold standard for =
wiring for Healeys.<br clear=3D"none"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.=
riwire.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.riwire.com/</a><br clear=3D"none"=
>very expensive, but if you go to their website and look for foreign<br cle=
ar=3D"none">cars/Austin-Healey, under BN2 you will find a list of 15 differ=
ent<br clear=3D"none">pieces that they offer, two of them are pairs like th=
e headlights.<br clear=3D"none">Some of them are ground straps.=C2=A0 But s=
everal are pretty complex.=C2=A0 This<br clear=3D"none">should help you fig=
ure out what pieces you were given, although some<br clear=3D"none">wiring =
providers combined a couple of the harnesses so be prepared for<br clear=3D=
"none">that too.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">The harnesses connect=
 together with bullet connectors, as you probably<br clear=3D"none">know.=
=C2=A0 RI Wiring provides theirs already soldered and crimped in place<br c=
lear=3D"none">but yours may need to be installed.<br clear=3D"none"><br cle=
ar=3D"none">Even with RI Wiring&#39;s detailed diagrams, I had to lay out t=
he<br clear=3D"none">harnesses and attach tags to each wire end to sort out=
 what went<br clear=3D"none">where.=C2=A0 Occasionally you will need &#39;s=
iamesed&#39; bullet connector sockets<br clear=3D"none">that allow you to c=
onnect three or four wires together.=C2=A0 They are<br clear=3D"none">avail=
able if you don&#39;t have them.=C2=A0 Also there is a tool that makes it<b=
r clear=3D"none">a lot easier to push the bullets into the sockets (but not=
 to get them<br clear=3D"none">out).=C2=A0 NOS bullets and sockets are best=
 if you can find them.=C2=A0 Be<br clear=3D"none">prepared for fitting prob=
lems with the aftermarket ones, though some<br clear=3D"none">are better th=
an others.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Make sure you have all of t=
he grommets that you need, especially the<br clear=3D"none">big one on the =
firewall that needs special care to feed the harness<br clear=3D"none">thro=
ugh.=C2=A0 Put the grommet on the harness before you start that part.<br cl=
ear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Take your time.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none">-Roland<br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"m_6617408040824321430yqt7=
317314192 m_6617408040824321430yQTDBase" id=3D"m_6617408040824321430yqtfd49=
493"><br clear=3D"none">On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 05:22:25 +0000 (UTC), you wrote:=
<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I have a=
 wiring harness that was given to me by a restorer friend just before he pa=
ssed away.=C2=A0 He told me it was a BN2 harness.=C2=A0 It is cloth with PV=
C wires.=C2=A0 The pictures I have of most restorations that clearly show t=
he main harness against the firewall are cloth and braid covered wires.=C2=
=A0 I can see the color codes of the braided wires that align with some of =
the PVC wires of my harness, but I seem to have a few extra wires coming ou=
t of the harness where there should not be any.=C2=A0 How can I tell the di=
fference between a BN1 and a BN2 main harness that is cloth and PVC.=C2=A0 =
There is also four smaller harnesses of which I am sure one or more will co=
nnect to the main harness somewhere.=C2=A0 A little bit more to deal with h=
ere than my Bugeye that I installed in 2000.Mike MacLean<br clear=3D"none">=
&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;|=C2=A0 | Virus-free. <a =
href=3D"http://www.avg.com"; target=3D"_blank">www.avg.com</a>=C2=A0 |</div>=
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