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To: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Side shift trans covers
From: Tim Davis BN7 <tld6008@mchsi.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 19:44:40 -0400 (EDT)
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I am fairly certain there is another cover that installs between the fixed =
bulkead over the bellhousing and the main trans. cover. Similar to what I h=
ave with the 3000 but it is somewhat different. I know this as over the yea=
rs I have received photos of these parts and I believe I have some that app=
ly to your situation. I will forward you an email from a very helpful membe=
r who originally sent these to me.


Tim Davis BN7

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
To: Jim Wojcik <jvwojcik@comcast.net>, 'Tim Davis BN7' <tld6008@mchsi.com>,=
 'Healey List' <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 17:23:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Side shift trans covers

I have a fiberglass tunnel cover from BCS for my BN2.  Of course, the BN2 i=
s a side shift trans.  Getting the car as a rolling shell I have no idea ho=
w to assemble the front of the tunnel to the front bulkhead.  As it looks, =
the tunnel cover is too short to reach the front bulkhead if it is to also =
contact the sheet metal of the permanent rear tunnel cover between the seat=
s.  I have the sheet metal front tunnel cover that screws into the floor an=
d the front bulkhead, but the screws are not available from Moss.  I suppos=
e some generic sheet metal screws would work, but what size?  I can get she=
et rubber from someplace like Grainger's but I have no idea how it was fast=
ened to the bulkhead cover.  It looks like there was a square strip of insu=
lation that glues to the top of the cover where it contacts the front bulkh=
ead, but of course that is not available from Moss also.  There are no seal=
 kits for the trans tunnel cover for BN1 or BN2 from Moss.  Why is that?  I=
 am at a loss how all this goes together.  What have you 4 cylinder guys do=
ne to seal this area?  Does anyone have any detailed pictures of these part=
s separate and/or in place on a BN1/2?
Mike MacLean

 On Friday, October 12, 2018 3:52 PM, Jim Wojcik <jvwojcik@comcast.net> wro=
te:


Hi Tim. Not much help with your specific question as I did my BN7 tunnel wo=
rk 25 years ago and no longer own the car. However, one thing I wish I woul=
d have done is to really re-engineer the way the tunnel and bulkhead pieces=
 fit together, and made strong fasteners that could pull the seal tight and=
 prevent the heat from flowing into the cockpit. If only ---   I think it w=
ould have been simple enough to do before the engine was in the car but I j=
ust didn=E2=80=99t remember and appreciate what a bodge it really was as or=
iginal.  If you do that and pull it up tight you may be able to better judg=
e whether your shifter will function properly. Jim  From: Healeys [mailto:h=
ealeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Davis BN7
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 11:14 AM
To: Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Side shift trans covers Trying again, since the ori=
ginal post I have rebuilt the rusted flanges on both sections and they look=
 new now. I have both uncarpeted sections set in place but with the front b=
ellhousing section in place, where it seems to fit best, the hole for the s=
hifter is not centered over the trans. See attached. Will this positioning =
work ? I can't move the main cover to the left much as it is over the drive=
 shaft hump. Also does the front flange of the trans cover screw  onto the =
bellhousing cover? I believe cupped trim screws are used for the sides of t=
he bellhsg cover but what is used for the floor flanges, self tapping type?=
 I have two snaps on each side of the man cover for the carpet, is there on=
e or two on the drvshaft tunnel?I also posted this question awhile ago to a=
nother Healey forum (https://www.ahexp.com/phorum/read.php?3,205482 ) worde=
d a little differently but have received no useful responses. =20
Tim Davis BN7  ----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Tim Davis BN7 <tld6008@mchsi.com>
To: Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 17:58:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Side shift trans covers  I am about to install my two covers  afte=
r first test fitting for a couple welding repairs. My front footwells are n=
ewly carpeted and the forward section is lapping over the carpet on the sid=
es, IS This correct?When I try to fit that first piece alone where it would=
 seem to be the Main cover is too far forward i.e small gap at the drive sh=
aft tunnel. So I am thinking I need to get the big one in place regarding t=
he tunnel and the access holes which will be pulling the front section back=
 where it doesn't look like it would like to be ideally.Does anyone have an=
y photos of the two sheetmetal covers in place or being installed/removed? =
Or any other words of wisdom? =20
Tim Davis BN7  _______________________________________________

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<html><head><style> body {height: 100%; color:#000000; font-size:12pt; font=
-family:Times New Roman;}</style></head><body><div>I am fairly certain ther=
e is another cover that installs between the fixed bulkead over the bellhou=
sing and the main trans. cover. Similar to what I have with the 3000 but it=
 is somewhat different. I know this as over the years I have received photo=
s of these parts and I believe I have some that apply to your situation. I =
will forward you an email from a very helpful member who originally sent th=
ese to me.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br>Tim Davis BN7<br></div><div><br=
></div><div>----- Original Message -----<br>From: Michael MacLean &lt;rreng=
ineer.mike@att.net&gt;<br>To: Jim Wojcik &lt;jvwojcik@comcast.net&gt;, 'Tim=
 Davis BN7' &lt;tld6008@mchsi.com&gt;, 'Healey List' &lt;healeys@autox.team=
.net&gt;<br>Sent: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 17:23:05 -0400 (EDT)<br>Subject: Re: [He=
aleys] Fwd: Side shift trans covers<br></div><div><br></div><div style=3D"c=
olor:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, ti=
mes, serif;font-size:16px" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000; background-color:=
 #fff; font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16p=
x;"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1539549890084_82971"><span id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1539549890084_82970">I have a fiberglass tunnel cover=
 from BCS for my BN2.&nbsp; Of course, the BN2 is a side shift trans.&nbsp;=
 Getting the car as a rolling shell I have no idea how to assemble the fron=
t of the tunnel to the front bulkhead.&nbsp; As it looks, the tunnel cover =
is too short to reach the front bulkhead if it is to also contact the sheet=
 metal of the permanent rear tunnel cover between the seats.&nbsp; I have t=
he sheet metal front tunnel cover that screws into the floor and the front =
bulkhead, but the screws are not available from Moss.&nbsp; I suppose some =
generic sheet metal screws would work, but what size?&nbsp; I can get sheet=
 rubber from someplace like Grainger's but I have no idea how it was fasten=
ed to the bulkhead cover.&nbsp; It looks like there was a square strip of i=
nsulation that glues to the top of the cover where it contacts the front bu=
lkhead, but of course that is not available from Moss also.&nbsp; There are=
 no seal kits for the trans tunnel cover for BN1 or BN2 from Moss.&nbsp; Wh=
y is that?&nbsp; I am at a loss how all this goes together.&nbsp; What have=
 you 4 cylinder guys done to seal this area?&nbsp; Does anyone have any det=
ailed pictures of these parts separate and/or in place on a BN1/2?<br></spa=
n></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1539549890084_104849"><spa=
n id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1539549890084_82970">Mike MacLean</span></div><di=
v class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"yahoo_quot=
ed" style=3D"display: block;" data-mce-style=3D"display: block;"><div style=
=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"=
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nt-size: 16px;"><div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, H=
elvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" data-mce-styl=
e=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida G=
rande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span data-mce-style=
=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" style=3D"font-family: Arial; fon=
t-size: small;" size=3D"2"> On Friday, October 12, 2018 3:52 PM, Jim Wojcik=
 &lt;jvwojcik@comcast.net&gt; wrote:<br></span></div><br><div><br></div><di=
v class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv1917991381"><div><div class=3D"yi=
v1917991381WordSection1"><div class=3D"yiv1917991381MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F4=
97D;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri', sans-ser=
if; color: #1f497d;">Hi Tim. Not much help with your specific question as I=
 did my BN7 tunnel work 25 years ago and no longer own the car. However, on=
e thing I wish I would have done is to really re-engineer the way the tunne=
l and bulkhead pieces fit together, and made strong fasteners that could pu=
ll the seal tight and prevent the heat from flowing into the cockpit. If on=
ly ---&nbsp;&nbsp; I think it would have been simple enough to do before th=
e engine was in the car but I just didn=E2=80=99t remember and appreciate w=
hat a bodge it really was as original. &nbsp;If you do that and pull it up =
tight you may be able to better judge whether your shifter will function pr=
operly. Jim</span></div><div class=3D"yiv1917991381MsoNormal"><a rel=3D"nof=
ollow" name=3D"_MailEndCompose" href=3D"" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=
=3D"" class=3D"mceItemAnchor"></a><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Calibri&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;" data-mce-style=3D"font-s=
ize: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri', sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"> &nbsp;</=
span></div><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;pa=
dding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;" data-mce-style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid=
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Normal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,=
 sans-serif;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri', =
sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Calibri&quot;, sans-serif;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-f=
amily: 'Calibri', sans-serif;"> Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.=
net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim Davis BN7<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 12, =
2018 11:14 AM<br><b>To:</b> Healey List &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><=
b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Fwd: Side shift trans covers</span></div></div></d=
iv><div class=3D"yiv1917991381MsoNormal">&nbsp;</div><div><div class=3D"yiv=
1917991381MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;" data-mce-style=3D"color: =
black;">Trying again, since the original post I have rebuilt the rusted fla=
nges on both sections and they look new now. I have both uncarpeted section=
s set in place but with the front bellhousing section in place, where it se=
ems to fit best, the hole for the shifter is not centered over the trans. S=
ee attached. Will this positioning work ? I can't move the main cover to th=
e left much as it is over the drive shaft hump. Also does the front flange =
of the trans cover screw&nbsp; onto the bellhousing cover? I believe cupped=
 trim screws are used for the sides of the bellhsg cover but what is used f=
or the floor flanges, self tapping type? I have two snaps on each side of t=
he man cover for the carpet, is there one or two on the drvshaft tunnel?</s=
pan></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv1917991381MsoNormal"><span style=3D"c=
olor:black;" data-mce-style=3D"color: black;">I also posted this question a=
while ago to another Healey forum (<a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" hr=
ef=3D"https://www.ahexp.com/phorum/read.php?3,205482"; data-mce-href=3D"http=
s://www.ahexp.com/phorum/read.php?3,205482">https://www.ahexp.com/phorum/re=
ad.php?3,205482</a> ) worded a little differently but have received no usef=
ul responses.</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv1917991381MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"color:black;" data-mce-style=3D"color: black;"> &nbsp;</span=
></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv1917991381MsoNormal"><span style=3D"colo=
r:black;" data-mce-style=3D"color: black;"><br>Tim Davis BN7</span></div></=
div><div><div class=3D"yiv1917991381MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;"=
 data-mce-style=3D"color: black;"> &nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=
=3D"yiv1917991381MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;" data-mce-style=3D"=
color: black;">----- Forwarded Message -----<br>From: Tim Davis BN7 &lt;<a =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:tld6008@mchsi.com"; data-m=
ce-href=3D"mailto:tld6008@mchsi.com";>tld6008@mchsi.com</a>&gt;<br>To: Heale=
y List &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys@aut=
ox.team.net" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 17:58:15 -0400 (EDT)<br>Subject:=
 Side shift trans covers</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv1917991381=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;" data-mce-style=3D"color: black;"> &=
nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv1917991381MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"color:black;" data-mce-style=3D"color: black;">I am about to install=
 my two covers&nbsp; after first test fitting for a couple welding repairs.=
 My front footwells are newly carpeted and the forward section is lapping o=
ver the carpet on the sides, IS This correct?</span></div></div><div><div c=
lass=3D"yiv1917991381MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;" data-mce-style=
=3D"color: black;">When I try to fit that first piece alone where it would =
seem to be the Main cover is too far forward i.e small gap at the drive sha=
ft tunnel. So I am thinking I need to get the big one in place regarding th=
e tunnel and the access holes which will be pulling the front section back =
where it doesn't look like it would like to be ideally.</span></div></div><=
div><div class=3D"yiv1917991381MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;" data=
-mce-style=3D"color: black;">Does anyone have any photos of the two sheetme=
tal covers in place or being installed/removed? Or any other words of wisdo=
m?</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv1917991381MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"color:black;" data-mce-style=3D"color: black;"> &nbsp;</span></div></di=
v><div><div class=3D"yiv1917991381MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;" d=
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tyle=3D"color: black;"> &nbsp;</span></div></div></div></div></div>________=
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