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Subject: [Healeys] Strange Timing Setting
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 06:21:12 -0800
References: <161b0ff3d59-c86-166cc@webjas-vab122.srv.aolmail.net>
An air leak on the intake side will cause the pump to cycle when the 
engine isn't running--and there will be no fuel leak--but it doesn't 
sound like this is the problem in this instance (it's usually 
more-or-less random).

Bob


On 2/19/2018 6:16 PM, Larry Wendland wrote:
> Years ago I had the same problem with the fuel pump not "pumping up and 
> stopping" with the engine off and the key on. I found one of the check valve 
> membranes split and allowing fuel to leak by. Replaced the check valve and 
> problem solved.
>
> Larry
> '67 BJ8
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
> To: healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon, Feb 19, 2018 3:48 pm
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Strange Timing Setting
>
>
>
> I went through an early (BN2) pump for a different issue--erratic 
> pumping--and noticed what appeared to be a small bypass port between the 
> brass valves.? I surmised (guessed) that the passageway may be there to allow 
> the pump to 'bleed down' when the engine isn't running.? Not sure why, but 
> one reason could be that it could be detrimental to the diaphragm to be in 
> the 'cocked and loaded' position for too long.? Can't say if the later pumps 
> have something similar but, as Kees says, the flapper valves probably leak 
> enough to prevent this.
>
>
>
> Bob
>
> --------------------------------
> Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA
> On February 18, 2018 at 10:50 AM Oudesluys <coudesluijs at chello.nl> wrote:
>
>
>
>   It should pump/click every 15s or more. There is always a slight seepage 
> through the plastic valves. They are never 100% leak free. If you hear it 
> pumping more often the chance is that the seat faces of the valves are dirty 
> or corroded. This can usually be remedied by carefully removing the valve 
> assemblies, prying out the plastic valves very prudently, clean them and 
> clean the faces of the bodies. If very corroded the valve assemblies can be 
> renewed. When fitting them back in the pump body use new rubber seals (flat 
> rubber rings). If they are not available you can usually get away with 
> fitting suitable O-rings.
>   If the pump is out clean the contact points with a strip of 2000 flower 
> paper.
>   When the points are severely worn, dismantle and rebuild the pump and keep 
> the 3-layer membrane if possible as the new single layer membranes are of a 
> lesser quality. Be very careful not to damage the thin kevlar layer when 
> removing the pump body, separate the layers and rub some talcum powder 
> between the layers very sparingly to create a supple membrane assembly.
>   If you follow the SU instruction to the letter the job of rebuilding is a 
> piece of cake and should not take more than half an hour. Parts are available 
> at the SU dealers. (Google)
>   Kees Oudesluijs
>   
>   
>   
>   Op 18-2-2018 om 8:55 schreef Patrick & Caroline Quinn:
>
>
> Greetings
>   
> Well the cavalry arrived and the engine in the BN3 is now running for the 
> first time in nearly seven years.
>   
> If you recall that despite going by the book the rotor button looked to be 
> 120 degrees out.
>   
> The solution? Move the geared camshaft/distributor drive about four teeth, 
> put it all back together, press the solenoid and away it went. Good oil 
> pressure and lots of gunk out the exhaust and on to my friend?s E-type. Very 
> pleased!
>   
> Now the next question is why does a SU fuel pump keep pumping occasionally 
> with the ignition on even when there are no leaks and the float bowl levels 
> are correct.
>   
> Hoo Roo
>   
> Patrick Quinn
> Blue Mountains, Australia
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