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Thanks, David, and I=E2=80=99ve taken your advice. I have everything =
prepped pull the head over the weekend and inspect the gasket, which is =
the old style copper.
=20
As for the head, I will have the surface checked to make sure there is =
no warpage. But recognizing that the only pressurized oil in the head =
is the short run from the deck up to the rocker shaft, I=E2=80=99m =
thinking that this oil gallery is not close enough to a water gallery to =
be a problem short of a massive crack in the head.
=20
It=E2=80=99s interesting that since I posted this on the list and the =
Healey Owners Facebook page, I=E2=80=99ve had maybe 6 people tell me =
they have the same symptoms. Eric Grunden also told me he=E2=80=99s =
seen this compromised block once in his career. So maybe not all that =
common, but not that rare either. I=E2=80=99ll let you know what I find =
when the head is off, but my money is on you selling me a block!
=20
Bruce Steele
Brea, CA
1960 BN7
=20
From: David Nock [mailto:healeydoc@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 9:00 AM
To: Per Schoerner <per@schoerner.se>; Bruce Steele =
<healeybruce@roadrunner.com>
Cc: Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Off comes the head...
=20
We have rebuilt 100=E2=80=99s of 6 cylinder Healey motors over the last =
30+ years and have not run into this problem. Not to say that it =
happens. I have heard of it and there used to be a kit available to fix =
it. But the kit is no longer available.
=20
My suggestion to Bruce was to look at the head gasket first since it is =
a much easier job to do first. As well as there is a oil galley thru the =
head and if there is a crack in the head that may also be an issue.
=20
David Nock
209 948 8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com <http://www.britishcarspecialists.com>=20
=20
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Off comes the head...
=20
Hi
This is what happens when you restore an engine properly, e. g. you =
clean the stripped block thouroughly. Cast iron is quite pourous and the =
wall between the oil channel and water jacket is quite thin. When you =
clean the block you also wipe away any gunk that acts as sealant, so it =
starts to leak oil into the water. Usually you can get away with this =
problem by installing steel pipes in the oil channel that goes across =
the block and also the channel up to the top.
=20
Best, Per
Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPhone
25 nov. 2016 kl. 07:14 skrev Bruce Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com =
Finally diving in to diagnose and fix the oil in the coolant. Hoping =
it's just the head gasket, but since it started after the engine was =
done 11 years ago, I am suspicious that it's the oil gallery-water =
jacket wall between number 4 and 5 cylinders seeping high pressure oil =
into the coolant. Has anyone actually had or known anyone with this =
problem?
=20
Bruce Steele
Brea, CA
1960 BN7
=20
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link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'>Thanks, David, and I=E2=80=99ve taken your advice.=C2=A0 =
I have everything prepped pull the head over the weekend and inspect the =
gasket, which is the old style copper.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>As for =
the head, I will have the surface checked to make sure there is no =
warpage.=C2=A0 </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>But =
recognizing that the only pressurized oil in the head is the short run =
from the deck up to the rocker shaft, I=E2=80=99m thinking that this oil =
gallery is not close enough to a water gallery to be a problem short of =
a massive crack in the head.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'>It=E2=80=99s interesting that since I posted this on the =
list and the Healey Owners Facebook page, I=E2=80=99ve had maybe 6 =
people tell me they have the same symptoms.=C2=A0 Eric Grunden also told =
me he=E2=80=99s seen this compromised block once in his career.=C2=A0 So =
maybe not all that common, but not that rare either.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ll =
let you know what I find when the head is off, but my money is on you =
selling me a block!</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bruce Steele<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Brea, CA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>1960 BN7<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> David Nock =
[mailto:healeydoc@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 25, 2016 =
9:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> Per Schoerner <per@schoerner.se>; Bruce =
Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Healey List =
<healeys@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Off =
comes the head...<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century",serif;color:black'>We have rebuilt =
100=E2=80=99s of 6 cylinder Healey motors over the last 30+ years and =
have not run into this problem. Not to say that it happens. I have heard =
of it and there used to be a kit available to fix it. But the kit is no =
longer available.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century",serif;color:black'><o:p><=
/o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century",serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century",serif;color:black'>My suggestion to Bruce =
was to look at the head gasket first since it is a much easier job to do =
first. As well as there is a oil galley thru the head and if there is a =
crack in the head that may also be an =
issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century",serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century",serif;color:black'>David Nock<br><a =
href=3D"mailto:healeydoc@sbcglobal.net";>healeydoc@sbcglobal.net</a><br>20=
9 948 8767<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com";>www.britishcarspecialists.c=
om</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>&n=
bsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Fr=
om:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> =
<a href=3D"mailto:per@schoerner.se"; title=3D"per@schoerner.se">Per =
Schoerner</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Se=
nt:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> =
Friday, November 25, 2016 6:49 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>To=
:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> =
<a href=3D"mailto:healeybruce@roadrunner.com"; =
title=3D"healeybruce@roadrunner.com">Bruce Steele</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Cc=
:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> =
<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net">Healey List</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Su=
bject:</span></b><span =
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Re: [Healeys] Off comes the =
head...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'> </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div>=
<div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Hi<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>This is what happens when you restore an engine =
properly, e. g. you clean the stripped block thouroughly. Cast iron is =
quite pourous and the wall between the oil channel and water jacket is =
quite thin. When you clean the block you also wipe away any gunk that =
acts as sealant, so it starts to leak oil into the water. Usually you =
can get away with this problem by installing steel pipes in the oil =
channel that goes across the block and also the channel up to the =
top.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Best, Per<br><br>Skickat fr=C3=A5n min =
iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'color:black'><br>25 nov. =
2016 kl. 07:14 skrev Bruce Steele <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeybruce@roadrunner.com";>healeybruce@roadrunner.com</a>=
>:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1D212=
9;background:white'>Finally diving in to diagnose and fix the oil in the =
coolant. Hoping it's just the head gasket, but since it started after =
the engine was done 11 years ago, I am suspicious that it's the oil =
gallery-water jacket wall between number 4 and 5 cylinders seeping high =
pressure oil into the coolant. Has anyone actually had or known anyone =
with this problem?</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bruce Steele</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Brea, CA</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>1960 BN7</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><blo=
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