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I use Yamabond. For sealing Al motorcycle engines. I like it. DaveP
On 11/5/2016 3:01 PM, Roger Grace wrote:
> Sorry to reopen this, but have this same leak in my BJ8 OD and fixing
> it is one of my Winter projects.
> Given that the black sealant stuff that was used before didn?t last
> (have no idea how long ago or what it is) and that there is no oil
> pressure on the joint, am sensitive to using what is the appropriate
> goo that will last and contain the oil.
> Have done some checking around and the Hylomar universal blue is used
> by some shops that fix OD?s.
> Overdrive Services (ex Laycock people in UK) tell me that the
> originals were sealed with a product called Wellseal.
> Nowadays they use a Wurth sealant that mentions flange mating in its
> website blurb.
> BTW they said that they could supply me with a gasket for this joint
> that seems like a good idea ?
> The reality is that these are 2 Al flanges that are mated without a
> gasket. I wonder why ?. Plan to do some careful flatness checking when
> have my hands on them. Has anyone had a problem with the mating
> flatness ? do they have a tendency to warp over the years and maybe
> abuse too ? given the shape not easy to machine flat - why do they leak ?
> Comments/ideas please.
> rg
> *From:* David Porter
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 26, 2016 7:15 AM
> *To:* Bob Spidell ; John Spaur
> *Cc:* healeys
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question
>
> seems like any RTV that is oil compliant will work. There is no
> internal pressure that will force oil out. The oil level in the OD is
> just above the operating shaft level, hence the need for the o-rings
> on the shaft.
>
> DaveP adding to the wisdom....
>
>
> On 10/26/2016 7:40 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:
>> Soooooooo ... both types of Hylomar WILL seal the joint?
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From: *"John Spaur" mailto:jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net
>> *To: *"WILLIAM B LAWRENCE" mailto:YNOTINK@msn.com, "healeys"
>> mailto:healeys@autox.team.net
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 25, 2016 8:27:53 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question
>>
>> In my experiences neither of the two types Hylomar will not seal that
>> joint.
>>
>> John Spaur
>>
>> San Jose
>>
>> *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of
>> *WILLIAM B LAWRENCE
>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 23, 2016 8:26 PM
>> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* [Healeys] Overdrive Question
>>
>> ?disassembly of the OD because it is seeping oil at the clutch ring.
>> There are no gaskets, but I would like to smear some Hylomar on the
>> joint faces to stop the leak.
>>
>>
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<p>I use Yamabond. For sealing Al motorcycle engines. I like it.
DaveP<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/5/2016 3:01 PM, Roger Grace
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<div>Sorry to reopen this,
but have this same leak
in my BJ8 OD and fixing
it is one of my Winter
projects.</div>
<div>Given that the black
sealant stuff that was
used before didn?t last
(have no idea how long
ago or what it is) and
that there is no oil
pressure on the joint,
am sensitive to using
what is the appropriate
goo that will last and
contain the oil.</div>
<div>Have done some
checking around and the
Hylomar universal blue
is used by some shops
that fix OD?s.</div>
<div>Overdrive Services
(ex Laycock people in
UK) tell me that the
originals were sealed
with a product called
Wellseal.</div>
<div>Nowadays they use a
Wurth sealant that
mentions flange mating
in its website blurb.</div>
<div>BTW they said that
they could supply me
with a gasket for this
joint that seems like a
good idea ?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>The reality is that
these are 2 Al flanges
that are mated without a
gasket. I wonder why ?.
Plan to do some careful
flatness checking when
have my hands on them.
Has anyone had a problem
with the mating flatness
? do they have a
tendency to warp over
the years and maybe
abuse too ? given the
shape not easy to
machine flat - why do
they leak ?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Comments/ideas
please.</div>
<div>rg</div>
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<div
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<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
title="frogeye@porterscustom.com">David Porter</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b>
Wednesday, October
26, 2016 7:15 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true" title="bspidell@comcast.net">Bob Spidell</a> ; <a
moz-do-not-send="true" title="jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net">John Spaur</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true" title="healeys@autox.team.net">healeys</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b>
Re: [Healeys]
Overdrive Question</div>
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<p>seems like any RTV
that is oil compliant
will work. There is no
internal pressure that
will force oil out.
The oil level in the
OD is just above the
operating shaft level,
hence the need for the
o-rings on the shaft.</p>
<p>DaveP adding to the
wisdom....<br>
</p>
<br>
<div
class="moz-cite-prefix">On
10/26/2016 7:40 AM,
Bob Spidell wrote:<br>
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<div>Soooooooo ...
both types of
Hylomar WILL seal
the joint?</div>
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normal"><b>From: </b>"John
Spaur" <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E">mailto:jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net</a><br>
<b>To: </b>"WILLIAM
B LAWRENCE" <a
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<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday,
October 25, 2016
8:27:53 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re:
[Healeys]
Overdrive Question<br>
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experiences
neither of the
two types
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not seal that
joint.</span></p>
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Healeys [<a
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<b>On Behalf
Of </b>WILLIAM
B LAWRENCE<br>
<b>Sent:</b>
Sunday,
October 23,
2016 8:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b>
[Healeys]
Overdrive
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style="FONT-FAMILY:
"Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: black">disassembly of the OD
because it is
seeping oil at
the clutch
ring. There
are no
gaskets, but I
would like to
smear some
Hylomar on the
joint faces to
stop the leak.
</span></p>
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