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Re: [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater Valve

To: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater Valve
From: "Peter & Veronica" <greylinn@ozemail.com.au>
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 13:36:31 +1000
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...you probably need something a bit more abrasive to lap the 2 together =
=E2=80=93 I used Solvol chrome polish. Coat the taper with Solvol & lap =
into body of tap.

Cheers

Peter

From: Patrick & Caroline Quinn=20
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 8:57 AM
To: 'Michael Salter'=20
Cc: mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater Valve

G=E2=80=99day

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Which reminds me!

=20

In the process of getting the Healey Duncan going I disassembled, =
cleaned and polished the brass =E2=80=98tapered plug=E2=80=99 drain tap =
and it looked very pretty against the gloss black of the engine. One =
problem is that it didn=E2=80=99t seal!

=20

So out it came and with much physical action with a cloth and Brasso the =
tapered joins were polished. Then when assembling it received the gentle =
hammer treatment in the hope that it would seal. It didn=E2=80=99t!

=20

In the end I removed the tap from the BN3=E2=80=99s engine and used that =
which worked perfectly.

=20

The tap fitted to the Healey engine is more ornate that fitted to the =
Austin-Healey but apart from more work with Brasso I=E2=80=99m at a loss =
at what to do.

=20

Thanks

=20

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Michael Salter
Sent: Monday, 18 July 2016 3:41 AM
To: Mike Garvey
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater Valve

=20

Hi Mike,

Th valve that you are working with is actually a "taper plug" valve.=20

I just freed up 2 of them this morning for the 100 engine that I'm =
building.

I have found that a gentle tap on the small shaft that extends below the =
spring is usually enough to loosen the taper and free up the valve.

Don't hit it too hard or you will damage the brass shaft.=20

If that doesn't work you have to remove the split (cotter) pin, then the =
washer then the spring. That will expose the end of the taper which when =
tapped with a hollow punch will drop out.=20

Michael S

BN1 #174

=20

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Mike Garvey <r3m1g4@verizon.net> wrote:

I have read in the archives about all the handles broken off the heater =
valve (controls coolant flow to the cockpit heater). =20

My handle is not yet broken off.  I can't get the valve closed with =
reasonable force.  Any hints or suggestions?

Thanks, Mike

=20

Michael Garvey
1967 BJ8/38046





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<DIV>...you probably need something a bit more abrasive to lap the 2 =
together =E2=80=93=20
I used Solvol chrome polish. Coat the taper with Solvol &amp; lap into =
body of=20
tap.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Cheers</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Peter</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt tahoma">
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=3Dp_cquinn@tpg.com.au=20
href=3D"mailto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au";>Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 18, 2016 8:57 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dmichaelsalter@gmail.com=20
href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>'Michael Salter'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3DHealeys@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net";>mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater =
Valve</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
DISPLAY: inline'>
<DIV class=3DWordSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">G=E2=80=99day<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Which reminds=20
me!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">In the process of =
getting the=20
Healey Duncan going I disassembled, cleaned and polished the brass =
=E2=80=98tapered=20
plug=E2=80=99 drain tap and it looked very pretty against the gloss =
black of the engine.=20
One problem is that it didn=E2=80=99t seal!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">So out it came and =
with much=20
physical action with a cloth and Brasso the tapered joins were polished. =
Then=20
when assembling it received the gentle hammer treatment in the hope that =
it=20
would seal. It didn=E2=80=99t!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">In the end I =
removed the tap=20
from the BN3=E2=80=99s engine and used that which worked=20
perfectly.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The tap fitted to =
the Healey=20
engine is more ornate that fitted to the Austin-Healey but apart from =
more work=20
with Brasso I=E2=80=99m at a loss at what to do.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">Thanks<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Patrick=20
Quinn<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Blue Mountains,=20
Australia<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys=20
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Michael=20
Salter<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 18 July 2016 3:41 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Mike=20
Garvey<BR><B>Cc:</B> healeys@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[Healeys] JB8=20
Stuck Heater Valve<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"'>Hi=20
Mike,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"'>Th =
valve that you=20
are working with is actually a "taper plug" valve. =
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"'>I just =
freed up 2=20
of them this morning for the 100 engine that I'm=20
building.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"'>I have =
found that=20
a gentle tap on the small shaft that extends below the spring is usually =
enough=20
to loosen the taper and free up the valve.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"'>Don't =
hit it too=20
hard or you will damage the brass shaft. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"'>If =
that doesn't=20
work you have to remove the split (cotter) pin, then the washer then the =
spring.=20
That will expose the end of the taper which when tapped with a hollow =
punch will=20
drop out. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans =
MS"'>Michael=20
S<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"'>BN1=20
#174<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Mike Garvey &lt;<A =

href=3D"mailto:r3m1g4@verizon.net"; =
target=3D_blank>r3m1g4@verizon.net</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN =
lang=3DEN-US>I=20
have read in the archives about all the handles broken off the heater =
valve=20
(controls coolant flow to the cockpit heater).&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US>My handle is not yet broken off.&nbsp; I can't get the =
valve closed=20
with reasonable force.&nbsp; Any hints or =
suggestions?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US>Thanks, Mike<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US>Michael Garvey<BR>1967=20
BJ8/38046<BR><BR></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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