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Have to agree with Andy,
Although one cannot see exactly where the cross over pipe runs it "shuold
run from the top of the first side to the bottom of the second side
otherwise as Andy pointed out there would be no way to eliminate the air
from the first (brake hose) side.
Michael S
On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net> wrote:
> Yes these are the beasts. Thanks for that Andy and to all for numerous
> ideas.
> Yes, and given all the bleeding have done it hopefully is the issue.
> This morning I took 3/4 of a jam jar (almost a reservoir) of fluid out of
> each wheel; minimal air came out using a vacuum pump.
> Some minor improvement and pedal now about an inch from floor on first pu=
mp
> and car is ... maybe driveable.
> As I don't have a helper have to use this technique; it took but 10 mins
> to bleed when I recently changed out my booster; have also ordered some
> Russell Speed Bleeders.
>
> Not quite sure how to address this reverse bleeding procedure that Andy
> suggests.
> I have a vacuum pump that have been using to bleed with and it does not
> involve any pedal pumping.
> Was thinking of trying to suck from the booster bleeder, from each
> calliper in turn -
> any thoughts ?
>
> Tkx
> rg
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Andy Thorp
> Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2016 2:51 AM
> To: 'Healey List'
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Brakes
>
> If these are the calipers in question then the reason for the problem is
> kind of obvious- there is no way of getting air out of one half as it has
> to
> flow downwards, then across the bottom pipe and up the other side. Any ai=
r
> stuck in the bores behind the pistons will stay trapped there. Reverse
> bleeding should clear it if the internal drillings are done sensibly.
>
>
> https://www.ahspares.co.uk/product-images/fullsize/10a937bf-2288-4027-a5e=
c-2e753aadac6f-3.jpg
>
> Andy.
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 3/7/16, Simon Lachlan <simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Brakes
> To: "'Healey List'" <healeys@autox.team.net>, "'Roger Grace'"
> <roggrace@telus.net>
> Received: Sunday, 3 July, 2016, 8:17 PM
>
> Bleeding brakes can drive you
> crazy.See the attached, from my BMC
> manual. It addresses the question rather neatly, suggesting
> that air may be drawn in at the end of the downward push;
> for example, the threads on the bleeders may be slightly
> worn.The trick is to close the bleeder
> 100% before the downward stroke ie, most important, while
> fluid is still coming out.A device such as A Gunson=E2=80=99s
> Eezibleed will mange that OK.The pdf=E2=80=99s first line may seem a
> little strange......it=E2=80=99s a note addressed to myself. The
> relevant paragraph is not in my pdf version of the manual
> for some reason so I added it as a reminder.Good luck,Simon
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Have to agree with Andy,<br></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:small">Although one cannot see exactly where the cross over pipe runs it=
"shuold run from the top of the first side to the bottom of the secon=
d side otherwise as Andy pointed out there would be no way to eliminate the=
air from the first (brake hose) side.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Michael S<=
br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Roger Grace <span =
dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net"; target=3D"_blank">rog=
grace@telus.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Yes=
these are the beasts. Thanks for that Andy and to all for numerous<br>
ideas.<br>
Yes, and given all the bleeding have done it hopefully is the issue.<br>
This morning I took 3/4 of a jam jar (almost a reservoir) of fluid out of<b=
r>
each wheel; minimal air came out using a vacuum pump.<br>
Some minor improvement and pedal now about an inch from floor on first pump=
<br>
and car is ... maybe driveable.<br>
As I don't have a helper have to use this technique; it took but 10 min=
s to bleed when I recently changed out my booster; have also ordered some<b=
r>
Russell Speed Bleeders.<br>
<br>
Not quite sure how to address this reverse bleeding procedure that Andy<br>
suggests.<br>
I have a vacuum pump that have been using to bleed with and it does not<br>
involve any pedal pumping.<br>
Was thinking of trying to suck from the booster bleeder, from each calliper=
in turn -<br>
any thoughts ?<br>
<br>
Tkx<br>
rg<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message----- From: Andy Thorp<br>
Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2016 2:51 AM<br>
To: 'Healey List'<span class=3D""><br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Brakes<br>
<br></span>
If these are the calipers in question then the reason for the problem is<br=
>
kind of obvious- there is no way of getting air out of one half as it has t=
o<br>
flow downwards, then across the bottom pipe and up the other side. Any air<=
br>
stuck in the bores behind the pistons will stay trapped there. Reverse<br>
bleeding should clear it if the internal drillings are done sensibly.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.ahspares.co.uk/product-images/fullsize/10a937bf-2288=
-4027-a5ec-2e753aadac6f-3.jpg" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https:/=
/www.ahspares.co.uk/product-images/fullsize/10a937bf-2288-4027-a5ec-2e753aa=
dac6f-3.jpg</a><br>
<br>
Andy.<br>
--------------------------------------------<span class=3D""><br>
On Sun, 3/7/16, Simon Lachlan <<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@homecall.=
co.uk" target=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Brakes<br></span>
To: "'Healey List'" <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.t=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>, "'Roger=
Grace'"<br>
<<a href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net"; target=3D"_blank">roggrace@telus.=
net</a>><br>
Received: Sunday, 3 July, 2016, 8:17 PM<span class=3D""><br>
<br>
Bleeding brakes can drive you<br></span>
crazy.See the attached, from my BMC<span class=3D""><br>
manual. It addresses the question rather neatly, suggesting<br>
that air may be drawn in at the end of the downward push;<br>
for example, the threads on the bleeders may be slightly<br></span>
worn.The trick is to close the bleeder<span class=3D""><br>
100% before the downward stroke ie, most important, while<br></span>
fluid is still coming out.A device such as A Gunson=E2=80=99s<br>
Eezibleed will mange that OK.The pdf=E2=80=99s first line may seem a<span c=
lass=3D""><br>
little strange......it=E2=80=99s a note addressed to myself. The<br>
relevant paragraph is not in my pdf version of the manual<br>
for some reason so I added it as a reminder.Good luck,Simon<br></span><span=
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