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BUT, if they have no idea that the registries exist - newbies to the marque,
for example -- then we are back to square one.
John Sims
Aberdeen, NJ
www.healey6.com
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Randy
Hicks
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 2:04 PM
To: Healey List
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Interesting comment from a dealer
Oh, they are out there. I saw a 100M (from CA) for sale on eBay a few years
ago - non numbers matching and non standard trim.
Several months later the same car showed up for sale by a dealer in Palm
Beach, FL. Now the trim had been re-done and it was a numbers matching car.
???!!!! Dealer refused to answer my emails and I finally got him by phone.
Bottom line, IT WAS HIS CAR AND HE COULD DO WHATEVER HE WANTED WITH THE
NUMBERS! He also stated that I should never call him again! :-)
If buyers do not contact registries, they have nobody to blame.
Randy
AHCA 100 Registrar
On Feb 5, 2016, at 10:11 AM, BJ8Healeys <sbyers@ec.rr.com> wrote:
Thought you Healeyphiles might enjoy this. This attitude might explain why
there are so many BJ8s running around now that have lost their original
identities and acquired new ones. People need to pay special attention to
the correct identity of a car when they are considering buying it.
A BJ8 was recently advertised by LBI, Ltd. as HBJ8L/25366 -- a Phase 1 VIN.
However, both the VIN plate and the body plate are from a BJ7.
I inquired twice about the reason for the discrepancy, and this is the
response. Note the last sentence:
Hi Steve,
Yes, we noticed this as well and traced it back to a simple mistake. The
tags to this car were put on another car and vice versa, everything has
since been switched and corrected. We just need to take new photos. Minor
issue, thankfully it's not an important car!
Regards,
<http://www.lbilimited.com/> www.LBILimited.com
Next Generation Car Guys
> Please answer this guy and need to get it resolved.
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Current, Past or Offsite Offerings Inquiry
> Subject: [your-subject]
>
> Name: [your-name
> Message Body:
> Hello,
> I inquired about this car about a week ago, but have not received a
response. You advertise the VIN as HBJ8L25366, which is a Phase 1 BJ8
number, but the photo of the VIN plate shows it reads HBJ7L24221, and the
body plate above it reads 3160 BJ7 60118. Both of these numbers obviously
belong to a BJ7, not a BJ8. What is the explanation for these
discrepancies?
>
> Thank you for a response.
>
> Vehicle inquiring about: 1964 Austin Healey 3000 MKIII
> Phone: 252-447-8812
Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
name=3D"_MailEndCompose"><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'>BUT, if they have no idea that the registries exist =
– newbies to the marque, for example -- then we are back to square =
one.<o:p></o:p></span></a></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'>John Sims<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'>Aberdeen, NJ<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'>www.healey6.com<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Randy Hicks<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 05, 2016 2:04 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Healey List<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Fwd: =
Interesting comment from a dealer<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"'>Oh, they are out there. I =
saw a 100M (from CA) for sale on eBay a few years ago - non numbers =
matching and non standard trim.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"'>Several months later the =
same car showed up for sale by a dealer in Palm Beach, FL. Now the trim =
had been re-done and it was a numbers matching car. ???!!!! =
Dealer refused to answer my emails and I finally got him by =
phone.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"'>Bottom line, IT WAS HIS =
CAR AND HE COULD DO WHATEVER HE WANTED WITH THE NUMBERS! He also =
stated that I should never call him again! :-) =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"'>If buyers do not contact =
registries, they have nobody to =
blame.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"'>Randy<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"'>AHCA 100 =
Registrar<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
></div><div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Feb 5, 2016, at 10:11 AM, BJ8Healeys <<a =
href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com";>sbyers@ec.rr.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Thought you Healeyphiles might enjoy this. =
This attitude might explain why there are so many BJ8s running around =
now that have lost their original identities and acquired new =
ones. People need to pay special attention to the correct identity =
of a car when they are considering buying it.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'> </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>A =
BJ8 was recently advertised by LBI, Ltd. as HBJ8L/25366 -- a Phase 1 =
VIN. However, both the VIN plate and the body plate are from a =
BJ7.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>I =
inquired twice about the reason for the discrepancy, and this is the =
response. Note the last sentence:</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'> </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'>Hi =
Steve,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'> Yes, we =
noticed this as well and traced it back to a simple mistake. The tags to =
this car were put on another car and vice versa, everything has since =
been switched and corrected. We just need to take new photos.<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><b>Minor issue, thankfully =
it's not an important car!<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span></b><o:p></o:p></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span><=
/p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'>Regards,<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.lbilimited.com/";><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>www.LBILimited.com</span>=
</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'>Next Generation Car =
Guys<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span><=
/p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'>> Please answer this =
guy and need to get it resolved.<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'>> -------- Original =
Message --------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'>> Subject: Current, =
Past or Offsite Offerings =
Inquiry<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'>> From: Steve Byers =
<<a href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com";><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>sbyers@ec.rr.com</span></=
a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'>> Subject: =
[your-subject]<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'>><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'>> Name: =
[your-name<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'>> Email:<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com";><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>sbyers@ec.rr.com</span></=
a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'>> Message =
Body:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'>> Hello,<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'>> I inquired about =
this car about a week ago, but have not received a response. You =
advertise the VIN as HBJ8L25366, which is a Phase 1 BJ8 number, but the =
photo of the VIN plate shows it reads HBJ7L24221, and the body plate =
above it reads 3160 BJ7 60118. Both of these numbers obviously =
belong to a BJ7, not a BJ8. What is the explanation for these =
discrepancies?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'>><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'>> Thank you for a =
response.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'>><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'>> Vehicle inquiring =
about: 1964 Austin Healey 3000 MKIII<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'>> Phone: =
252-447-8812<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span><=
/p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 =
Registry</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC <span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span></span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p>=
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