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Re: [Healeys] OT: Axle Jacking

To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] OT: Axle Jacking
From: Derek Job <derek.c.job@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 08:53:39 +0000
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Bob,

I use a low access racing jack which can get under the back even if the
front is on axle stands.



On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:13 PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:

> It's a Catch 22; if I jack the rear first, I can't get the jack under the
> front crossmember, if I jack the front first the only way to jack the rear
> is to get under the diff from the passenger (non-exhaust) side (on an LHD
> car).
>
> I usually get the car up four jackstands to do work under the car.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Derek Job" <derek.c.job@gmail.com>
> *To: *"Keith Mott" <mottman55@gmail.com>
> *Cc: *"Bob Spidell" <bspidell@comcast.net>, "healeys" <
> healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Sent: *Thursday, November 19, 2015 9:37:44 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] OT: Axle Jacking
>
> I just use a piece of wood that fits across the rear crossmember. I've
> never jacked using the diff.
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Keith Mott <mottman55@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is really surprising to me.  I have always lifted cars by putting a
>> floor jack under the differential, and I have never had a problem nor have
>> I heard of any problem with the practice.   I suppose it could be something
>> specific to Mustangs, but all you have to do is lift a Healey axle housing
>> (even without the differential) to realize that it's pretty solid.  I can't
>> believe this is a common problem for all cars, and definitely not for a
>> Healey.
>>
>> I CAN see that putting all the pressure on the drain plug at the bottom
>> of the differential housing could be a problem.
>>
>> But, of course, now I'll worry about this the next time I jack up my
>> Healey.  Thanks Bob...  :)
>>
>> keith
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thought about posting this to shop-talk, but I suspect there's more
>>> general car knowledge here.
>>>
>>> I believe my Mustang manual has admonitions against jacking the rear by
>>> placing a floor jack under the rear pumpkin.  I've jacked-up Healeys this
>>> way for years, but the Healey axle housing is a single chunk of iron; the
>>> Mustang probably has thin-wall tubes from the pumpkin to the wheels.
>>> Theoretically, you could bend the thin-wall tubes, but I've done it a few
>>> times with no noticeable issues.
>>>
>>> Thoughts from the Illuminati?
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Bob,<div><br></div><div>I use a low access racing jack whi=
ch can get under the back even if the front is on axle stands.</div><div><b=
r></div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote">On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:13 PM, Bob Spidell <span dir=3D"ltr"=
>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank">bspidell@com=
cast.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><di=
v style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><div>It&#39;s a =
Catch 22; if I jack the rear first, I can&#39;t get the jack under the fron=
t crossmember, if I jack the front first the only way to jack the rear is t=
o get under the diff from the passenger (non-exhaust) side (on an LHD car).=
<br></div><div><br></div><div>I usually get the car up four jackstands to d=
o work under the car.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div=
><hr><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-dec=
oration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><b>From=
: </b>&quot;Derek Job&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:derek.c.job@gmail.com"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">derek.c.job@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>To: </b>&quot;Keith Mot=
t&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mottman55@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">mottma=
n55@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>&quot;Bob Spidell&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt;=
, &quot;healeys&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, Novemb=
er 19, 2015 9:37:44 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] OT: Axle Jacking<sp=
an class=3D""><br><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I just use a piece of woo=
d that fits across the rear crossmember. I&#39;ve never jacked using the di=
ff.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, =
Nov 19, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Keith Mott <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:mottman55@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mottman55@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">This is really su=
rprising to me.=C2=A0 I have always lifted cars by putting a floor jack und=
er the differential, and I have never had a problem nor have I heard of any=
 problem with the practice. =C2=A0 I suppose it could be something specific=
 to Mustangs, but all you have to do is lift a Healey axle housing (even wi=
thout the differential) to realize that it&#39;s pretty solid.=C2=A0 I can&=
#39;t believe this is a common problem for all cars, and definitely not for=
 a Healey.<div><br></div><div>I CAN see that putting all the pressure on th=
e drain plug at the bottom of the differential housing could be a problem.<=
/div><div><br></div><div>But, of course, now I&#39;ll worry about this the =
next time I jack up my Healey.=C2=A0 Thanks Bob... =C2=A0:)</div><div><br><=
/div><div>keith</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote"><span>On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Bob Spidell <span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank">bspidell@=
comcast.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
<span>Thought about posting this to shop-talk, but I suspect there&#39;s mo=
re general car knowledge here.<br> <br> I believe my Mustang manual has adm=
onitions against jacking the rear by placing a floor jack under the rear pu=
mpkin.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve jacked-up Healeys this way for years, but the Healey =
axle housing is a single chunk of iron; the Mustang probably has thin-wall =
tubes from the pumpkin to the wheels.=C2=A0 Theoretically, you could bend t=
he thin-wall tubes, but I&#39;ve done it a few times with no noticeable iss=
ues.<br> <br> Thoughts from the Illuminati?<br> <br> Bob</span></blockquote=
></div></div></blockquote></div></div></span></div></div></div><br>________=
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