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Re: [Healeys] Starter differences.

To: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Starter differences.
From: Michael <michael.salter@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 16:57:12 -0400
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If that was the case the armature and/or the field windings would be unique=
...they aren't!!!
Hmmmmmm..

Michael S

-----Original Message-----
From: "Alan Seigrist" <healey.nut@gmail.com>
Sent: =E2=80=8E19/=E2=80=8E09/=E2=80=8E2015 4:55 p.m.
To: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" <Healeys@autox.team.net>; "Brian Drab" <bgdrab=
@eastlink.ca>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Starter differences.

I suspect slightly more windings to cope with slightly more compression.

On Sunday, September 20, 2015, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com> wro=
te:

Its a rainy day at Fox Point so I thought I would look into this to see if =
I can figure out what it is all about.
After an extensive cross check of the component part numbers for the 25521 =
and the 25578 starters I can find no difference between the parts. (There i=
s some argy bargy regarding the brush springs but that seems to be a "red h=
erring"). ;-)

HOWEVER the starter with part number 25578 seems to be exclusively for the =
1963 - '67 Austin -Healey '3000' Conv.=20

The 25521 starter (used on Healeys up to 1963) was still available during t=
his time, it was used on the Humber Super Snipe' the Rover 2000, and the Va=
nden Plas 3 litre 'Princess" but it is NOT specified for the Healey.

There must have been some special requirement of the 25578 starter that was=
 exclusive to the later Healey 3000 because creating a unique part was no s=
mall deal.=20

Typically a different part number (disregarding the suffix letter) indicate=
d that the part was not "correctly" interchangeable although as we know any=
 Healey starter will fit and work on any Healey..=20
=20

Anyone got any idea what makes the 1963 - '67 Austin -Healey '3000' Conv. s=
tarter different from others?

Note: The suffix letter is a Lucas indication of a change in the manufactur=
ing process for the component and has no influence on the interchangeabilit=
y of the unit, however it can indicate that its component parts may have ch=
anged and interchangeability of parts within the unit should be checked in =
the equipment specifications book.


Michael S

My Blog http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/=

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=3Dutf-8"></head><body><div><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; =
font-size: 11pt;">If that was the case the armature and/or the field windin=
gs would be unique...they aren't!!!<br>Hmmmmmm..<br><br>Michael S</div></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><hr><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font=
-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">From: </span><span style=3D"font-family: C=
alibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com=
">Alan Seigrist</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-seri=
f; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Sent: </span><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">=E2=80=8E19/=E2=80=8E09/=E2=80=
=8E2015 4:55 p.m.</span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;=
 font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">To: </span><span style=3D"font-family=
: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gma=
il.com">Michael Salter</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Cc: </span><span style=3D"fo=
nt-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:Healeys@=
autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:bgdrab@eastli=
nk.ca">Brian Drab</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-se=
rif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span><span style=3D"fo=
nt-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Re: [Healeys] Starter diff=
erences.</span><br><br></div>I suspect slightly more windings to cope with =
slightly more compression.<br><br>On Sunday, September 20, 2015, Michael Sa=
lter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>michaelsalter@gmail.com=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); bor=
der-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-siz=
e: small;">Its a rainy day at Fox Point so I thought I would look into this=
 to see if I can figure out what it is all about.<br>After an extensive cro=
ss check of the component part numbers for the 25521 and the 25578 starters=
 I can find no difference between the parts. (There is some argy bargy rega=
rding the brush springs but that seems to be a "red herring"). ;-)<br></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-seri=
f; font-size: small;"></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fami=
ly: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;"></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;"=
>HOWEVER the starter with part number 25578 seems to be exclusively for the=
 1963 - '67 Austin -Healey '3000' Conv. <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;"></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-ser=
if; font-size: small;">The 25521 starter (used on Healeys up to 1963) was s=
till available during this time, it was used on the Humber Super Snipe' the=
 Rover 2000, and the Vanden Plas 3 litre 'Princess" but it is NOT specified=
 for the Healey.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family=
: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;">There must have been some sp=
ecial requirement of the 25578 starter that was exclusive to the later Heal=
ey 3000 because creating a unique part was no small deal. <br></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-=
size: small;">Typically a different part number (disregarding the suffix le=
tter) indicated that the part was not "correctly" interchangeable although =
as we know any Healey starter will fit and work on any Healey.. <br>&nbsp;<=
br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,s=
ans-serif; font-size: small;"></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;">Anyone got any ide=
a what makes the 1963 - '67 Austin -Healey '3000' Conv. starter different f=
rom others?<br><br>Note: The suffix letter is a Lucas indication of a chang=
e in the =0A=
manufacturing process for the component and has no influence on the =0A=
interchangeability of the unit, however it can indicate that its =0A=
component parts may have changed and interchangeability of parts within =0A=
the unit should be checked in the equipment specifications book.<br></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;=
 font-size: small;"><br>Michael S<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" sty=
le=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;">My Blog <a =
href=3D"http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/"; target=3D"_blank">http://www.ne=
tbug.net/blogmichael/</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div dir=3D"=
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