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Hi Bill. .012 is a long way out! Make sure you don't end up with pistons
coming up above deck height. If you already have a rear main seal
conversion, check firstly that the rear engine plate is flat, they are quite
thin on the 100. Also you will see when you get the rear plate gasket, the
gasket may have 2 extra holes across the bottom that appear to not be
needed. Some blocks had 2 extra holes across the bottom to hold the rear
engine plate. The addition of these extra holes and bolts can help seal the
engine plate and stop leaks that can appear to be rear main leaks but
aren't. Also when fitting the new head gasket it's worth using a little (
very little ) sealer on the gasket down the spark plug side as the water
galleries are very close to the edge of the head, so often you will get a
very slight water weep from the gasket.
Cheers
Larry Varley
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WILLIAM B
LAWRENCE
Sent: Wednesday, 24 June 2015 1:03 PM
To: I Erbs
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Oil again
Aw that's nothing. My car has always leaked oil profusely even though I
thought I had covered all the bases the last time I rebuilt it. Lip seals on
both ends of the crankshaft, careful fitting and Hylomar on all of the
exterior gaskets and the rear main bearing block. It still wouldn't hold oil
(or a head gasket). Now it is down again (broken pistons on #1 and #2) so
I'm doing a total rebuild. The first item of business is machine work on the
block and the machinist said (roughly) that the top of the block resembled a
ski jump, one corner was 0.012" higher than the other. I guess because of
that I couldn't get the gasket to seal around the oil passage and all the
oil was running out of the head gasket and down both sides of the engine,
not to mention contaminating the coolant system. Looks like some select
vendors will be separating me from more of my money...
Bill Lawrence
BN1 #554
_____
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:33:11 -0700
Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Oil again
From: eyera3@gmail.com
To: ynotink@msn.com
CC: glemon@neb.rr.com; healeys@autox.team.net
Ya know oil doesn't stay in my car very long anyway to worry about.
Seriously, I found the problem m The back of the valve cover was flat, plus
the gasket had slid forward
Mr. Ira Erbs
On Jun 20, 2015 8:21 AM, "WILLIAM B LAWRENCE" <ynotink@msn.com> wrote:
Greg, I don't think the brand matters much. They all have to meet the API
specification. I think all the rest is marketing.
_____
From: glemon@neb.rr.com
To: ynotink@msn.com; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Oil again
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 01:02:40 -0500
Thank you Bill, although it doesn't tell me which brand to pick, your clear
explanation of the oil codes and changes in formulation give a very good
background for someone trying to muddle through the oil choice issues
classic car drivers face these days, and understand why oil
choice/availability had become a significant issue.
Greg Lemon
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 6:58 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] FW: Oil again
_____
From: ynotink@msn.com
To: michael.oritt@gmail.com
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Oil again
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 03:08:45 +0000
I see I'm late to the party on this topic. I was up in the Rocky Mountains
participating in the Glenwood Springs Rallye when it started and frankly I
wish I still were. However, at the risk of being called ignorant,
uninformed, commie pinko or whatever I have a little information that may be
of help in sorting out the oil confusion.
Engine oil comes in generations as defined by the additive packages which
are blended in to tailor them for specific purposes. These generations can
be traced by the API codes which are located on the container.
The API code is two letters found on the label. The first letter is either a
C, which denotes the oil is intended for use in a compression ignition
engine, or an S which denotes it is intended for use in a spark ignition
engine.
The second letter denotes the type of use intended and follows the
development of the internal combustion engine from the most primitive (A) to
the most sophisticated (I think they are at O Now). protective amounts of
zinc were dropped from the additive package at SM. Any oil before that, or
say from SD through SL, still contains zinc.
It may be true that zinc is not necessary for engines after the camshaft
break-in, but I prefer to be cautious on that score so I look for oil that
is SL or earlier. I'll let the more informed and adventurous members conduct
that experiment...
Some heavy duty oils such as Chevron Delo or Rotella are rated for both
compression ignition and for spark ignition service and will show both a C
and an S rating. In some cases those oils will still have an SM or later
rating.
The one oil type I have found that is reliably rated below SM is four stroke
motorcycle oil because motorcycles don't have catalysts. Typically it is
rated SF or SG. Since the oil has no way of knowing it is being run in an
automotive engine and my Healey doesn't know the oil it's spewing is meant
for a motorcycle I have been running Castrol 4T in 20W-50 grade quite
happily.
As for the controversy part, if we start banning contentious topics we soon
won't have anything to talk about like most modern college campuses.
Bill Lawrence
BN1 #554
_____
From: michael.oritt@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 06:14:11 -0400
To: javrugtman@htcnet.org
CC: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil again
We ALWAYS talk about oil and no one seems to have the answer, so we simply
keep talking about it.
For a change let's talk about politics or religion, two topics which are
susceptible to absolute rectitude. Many or most of us do not have the
correct answers on either and someone here--perhaps an unknown lurker--may
choose to now come forward with his or her enlightenment and reveal it to
us.
To mix a metaphor, I now listen with a jaundiced eye.
Best--Michael Oritt
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:45 PM, John Vrugtman <javrugtman@htcnet.org>
wrote:
politics and religion, like water and oil, don't mix. On the other hand,
oil and Healeys mix very well.
JAV
On 6/12/2015 7:16 PM, Richard Kahn wrote:
I think topics like politics, religion, and oil should be taboo. There is no
best in any of these topics.
Rich Kahn
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Hi Bill. .012 is a long way out! Make sure you don’t end up =
with pistons coming up above deck height. If you already have a rear =
main seal conversion, check firstly that the rear engine plate is flat, =
they are quite thin on the 100. Also you will see when you get the rear =
plate gasket, the gasket may have 2 extra holes across the bottom that =
appear to not be needed. Some blocks had 2 extra holes across the bottom =
to hold the rear engine plate. The addition of these extra holes and =
bolts can help seal the engine plate and stop leaks that can appear to =
be rear main leaks but aren’t. Also when fitting the new head =
gasket it’s worth using a little ( very little ) sealer on the =
gasket down the spark plug side as the water galleries are very close to =
the edge of the head, so often you will get a very slight water weep =
from the gasket.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Larry Varley<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>WILLIAM B =
LAWRENCE<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 24 June 2015 1:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> I =
Erbs<br><b>Cc:</b> healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] FW: Oil again<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Aw that's nothing. My car =
has always leaked oil profusely even though I thought I had covered all =
the bases the last time I rebuilt it. Lip seals on both ends of the =
crankshaft, careful fitting and Hylomar on all of the exterior gaskets =
and the rear main bearing block. It still wouldn't hold oil (or a head =
gasket). Now it is down again (broken pistons on #1 and #2) so I'm doing =
a total rebuild. The first item of business is machine work on the block =
and the machinist said (roughly) that the top of the block resembled a =
ski jump, one corner was 0.012" higher than the other. I guess =
because of that I couldn't get the gasket to seal around the oil passage =
and all the oil was running out of the head gasket and down both sides =
of the engine, not to mention contaminating the coolant system. Looks =
like some select vendors will be separating me from more of my =
money...<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Bill =
Lawrence<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>BN1 =
#554<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" =
align=3Dcenter id=3DstopSpelling></span></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 =
11:33:11 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Oil again<br>From: <a =
href=3D"mailto:eyera3@gmail.com";>eyera3@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:ynotink@msn.com";>ynotink@msn.com</a><br>CC: <a =
href=3D"mailto:glemon@neb.rr.com";>glemon@neb.rr.com</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><o:p></o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Ya know oil doesn't stay in =
my car very long anyway to worry about. Seriously, I found the =
problem m The back of the valve cover was flat, plus the gasket had slid =
forward <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Mr. Ira =
Erbs<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On Jun 20, 2015 8:21 AM, =
"WILLIAM B LAWRENCE" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:ynotink@msn.com";>ynotink@msn.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Greg, I don't think the =
brand matters much. They all have to meet the API specification. I think =
all the rest is marketing. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div =
class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" =
align=3Dcenter></span></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From: <a =
href=3D"mailto:glemon@neb.rr.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">glemon@neb.rr.com</a><br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:ynotink@msn.com"; target=3D"_blank">ynotink@msn.com</a>; =
<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] =
FW: Oil again<br>Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 01:02:40 =
-0500<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thank you Bill, although it =
doesn't tell me which brand to pick, your clear explanation of the oil =
codes and changes in formulation give a very good background for someone =
trying to muddle through the oil choice issues classic car drivers face =
these days, and understand why oil choice/availability had become a =
significant issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Greg =
Lemon<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> <=
/o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
<a href=3D"mailto:ynotink@msn.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
title=3D"ynotink@msn.com">WILLIAM B LAWRENCE</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Thursday, June 18, 2015 6:58 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To:</span></=
b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject:</sp=
an></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> [Healeys] =
FW: Oil again<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=
<div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" =
align=3Dcenter></span></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From: <a =
href=3D"mailto:ynotink@msn.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">ynotink@msn.com</a><br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a><br>Subject: RE: [Healeys] =
Oil again<br>Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 03:08:45 =
+0000<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I see I'm late to the party =
on this topic. I was up in the Rocky Mountains participating in the =
Glenwood Springs Rallye when it started and frankly I wish I still were. =
However, at the risk of being called ignorant, uninformed, commie pinko =
or whatever I have a little information that may be of help in sorting =
out the oil confusion. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Engine oil comes in =
generations as defined by the additive packages which are blended in to =
tailor them for specific purposes. These generations can be traced by =
the API codes which are located on the =
container. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The API code is two letters =
found on the label. The first letter is either a C, which denotes =
the oil is intended for use in a compression ignition engine, or an S =
which denotes it is intended for use in a spark ignition =
engine.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The second letter denotes =
the type of use intended and follows the development of the internal =
combustion engine from the most primitive (A) to the most sophisticated =
(I think they are at O Now). protective amounts of zinc were dropped =
from the additive package at SM. Any oil before that, or say from SD =
through SL, still contains zinc.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>It may be true that zinc is =
not necessary for engines after the camshaft break-in, but I prefer to =
be cautious on that score so I look for oil that is SL or earlier. I'll =
let the more informed and adventurous members conduct that =
experiment...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Some heavy duty oils such =
as Chevron Delo or Rotella are rated for both compression ignition and =
for spark ignition service and will show both a C and an S rating. In =
some cases those oils will still have an SM or later =
rating.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The one oil type I have =
found that is reliably rated below SM is four stroke motorcycle oil =
because motorcycles don't have catalysts. Typically it is rated SF or =
SG. Since the oil has no way of knowing it is being run in an =
automotive engine and my Healey doesn't know the oil it's spewing is =
meant for a motorcycle I have been running Castrol 4T in 20W-50 grade =
quite happily.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>As for the controversy =
part, if we start banning contentious topics we soon won't have anything =
to talk about like most modern college =
campuses.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Bill =
Lawrence<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>BN1 =
#554<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" =
align=3Dcenter></span></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From: <a =
href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a><br>Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 =
06:14:11 -0400<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:javrugtman@htcnet.org"; =
target=3D"_blank">javrugtman@htcnet.org</a><br>CC: <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] =
Oil again<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3333FF'>We ALWAYS =
talk about oil and no one seems to have the answer, so we simply keep =
talking about it. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3333FF'>For a change =
let's talk about politics or religion, two topics which are susceptible =
to absolute rectitude. Many or most of us do not have the correct =
answers on either and someone here--perhaps an unknown lurker--may =
choose to now come forward with his or her enlightenment and reveal it =
to us. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o=
:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3333FF'>To mix a =
metaphor, I now listen with a jaundiced =
eye.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o=
:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael =
Oritt <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at =
7:45 PM, John Vrugtman <<a href=3D"mailto:javrugtman@htcnet.org"; =
target=3D"_blank">javrugtman@htcnet.org</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>politics and religion, like =
water and oil, don't mix. On the other hand, oil and Healeys mix =
very well.<br>JAV<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On 6/12/2015 7:16 PM, =
Richard Kahn wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I =
think topics like politics, religion, and oil should be taboo. There is =
no best in any of these topics.<br>Rich =
Kahn<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></=
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