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Subject: Re: [Healeys] oil weight
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 07:47:33 -0700
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I'd stick with 10W-50 if you don't need the cold weather capability.  
The bigger the 'viscosity gap'--e.g. 5W-50 is 45, 10W-50 is 40, 
etc.--the more VIs (viscosity improvers) are added to a base oil.  The 
VIs are long chain polymers that, when cold, are in more-or-less in 
straight lines but 'curl up' when hot to increase the viscosity of the 
oil.   The bigger the 'gap' the lower the viscosity of the base 
oil--10W-50 might have a base viscosity of 7, for instance (just an 
example, I don't know the exact number)--and 5W-50 might be 3, etc.  The 
VIs get 'sheared' in use and the hot viscosity goes down as a result.  
At one time, at least, 10W-40 was recommended against by some car 
manufacturers (BMW, I think), though my father has used it for many 
years with no problems.

I now use Valvoline VR-1 10W-50.  Used Chevron 10W-50 for many years 
when it was available at Costco.

Bob

On 6/10/2015 6:15 AM, John Rowe wrote:
> If you look at the description on the container (at least here in Oz) 
> the 5W-50 is for big bore flat tappet cam engines. That is a very apt 
> description of my 3000. The Castrol Edge Sport is the modern old 
> Castrol R, It's all to do with marketing.
>
> Cheers from West OZ
>
> John Rowe
> 1959 3000 BT7
> and many others.
>
> On 10/06/2015 9:03 PM, warthodson@aol.com wrote:
>> At our local club meeting last nite we had a discussion on motor oil. 
>> I had been using Castrol Syntec 20W-50 but I learned that they no 
>> longer offer that. They now offer Edge (formally Syntec) in 
>> 5W-50, 10W-40 & several other weights, but no 20W-50. Several of our 
>> club members are using the 5W-50.  Keeping in mind that we seldom 
>> drive in weather below 40 degrees F. What are your thoughts on using 
>> 5W-50? What weight oil do you recommend?
>> All of the above oils contain the zinc additive for classic cars. 
>> Also, Valvoline offers their VR-1 in a 20W-50 with the zinc additive.
>> Gary
>> Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys 
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    I'd stick with 10W-50 if you don't need the cold weather
    capability.  The bigger the 'viscosity gap'--e.g. 5W-50 is 45,
    10W-50 is 40, etc.--the more VIs (viscosity improvers) are added to
    a base oil.  The VIs are long chain polymers that, when cold, are in
    more-or-less in straight lines but 'curl up' when hot to increase
    the viscosity of the oil.   The bigger the 'gap' the lower the
    viscosity of the base oil--10W-50 might have a base viscosity of 7,
    for instance (just an example, I don't know the exact number)--and
    5W-50 might be 3, etc.  The VIs get 'sheared' in use and the hot
    viscosity goes down as a result.  At one time, at least, 10W-40 was
    recommended against by some car manufacturers (BMW, I think), though
    my father has used it for many years with no problems.<br>
    <br>
    I now use Valvoline VR-1 10W-50.  Used Chevron 10W-50 for many years
    when it was available at Costco.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/10/2015 6:15 AM, John Rowe wrote:<br>
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      <font face="Arial">If you look at the description on the container
        (at least here in Oz) the 5W-50 is for big bore flat tappet cam
        engines. That is a very apt description of my 3000. The Castrol
        Edge Sport</font> is the modern old Castrol R, It's all to do
      with marketing.<br>
      <br>
      Cheers from West OZ<br>
      <br>
      John Rowe<br>
      1959 3000 BT7<br>
      and many others.<br>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/06/2015 9:03 PM, <a
          moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
          href="mailto:warthodson@aol.com";>warthodson@aol.com</a> wrote:<br>
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        cite="mid:14ddd919d3e-1e7-180a7@webprd-m41.mail.aol.com"
        type="cite"><font color="black" face="arial" size="2">
          <div><font style="background-color: transparent;" face="Arial,
              Helvetica, sans-serif">At our local club meeting last nite
              we had a discussion on motor oil. I had been using Castrol
              Syntec 20W-50 but I learned that they no longer offer
              that. They now offer Edge (formally Syntec) in
              5W-50, 10W-40 &amp; several other weights, but no 20W-50.
              Several of our club members are using the 5W-50.  Keeping
              in mind that we seldom drive in weather below 40 degrees
              F. What are your thoughts on using 5W-50? What weight oil
              do you recommend?</font></div>
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          <div><font style="background-color: transparent;" face="Arial,
              Helvetica, sans-serif">All of the above oils contain
              the zinc additive for classic cars. Also, Valvoline offers
              their VR-1 in a 20W-50 with the zinc additive.    </font></div>
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          <div>Gary</div>
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