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That=E2=80=99s very interesting. Seems like they got the whole thing =
into a muddle on Day One and never really recovered.
Makes trial and error, one of my usual fallbacks, seem quite sensible in =
the circs.
Simon
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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Keith =
Taylor
Sent: 25 May 2015 03:20
To: healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume
=20
My original BN1 1954 Service Manual has an "ERRATUM ' sticker on the =
inside cover stating :-
=20
Gearbox/overdrive Oil Capacity=20
=20
The combined capacity of the Gearbox and =
overdrive is
5 1/2 Imp. pints (dry) and not 4 1/2 Imp =
pints as stated =20
After draining, 1/4 pint of oil will remain =
in the overdrive
hydraulic system, therefore ,only 5 1/2 =
pints will be required
for refilling. =20
=20
Pubs. 996B and 997A December 1954
=20
So when filling from rebuild add the extra 1/4 pint .... 5 3/4 pints
=20
Later editions may have carried the correction and side and top shift =
gearboxes may vary
=20
Keith Taylor
southern Highlands OZ
=20
On 25 May 2015 at 07:54, Patrick & Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au> =
wrote:
Greetings
=20
Well that=E2=80=99s interesting as I will be buying the oil for the =
BN3=E2=80=99s gearbox this week. It is a 100S gearbox with a 22% OD that =
has been completely rebuilt and apart from the oil used in the assembly =
it=E2=80=99s completely empty.
=20
My 1968 BMC Workshop Manual (AKD 1179H) that I bought new in September =
1974 for $7.00 states that the oil capacity for a side-shift gearbox =
fitted with an OD is 6 =C2=BC imp pints, 7.5 US pints and 3.55 litres. I =
states the same for a centre-shift box as well. So I will be buying a 4 =
litre container and store what=E2=80=99s left over for the inevitable =
leaks.
=20
Talking about leaks I was watching a Jay Leno video of his Daimler SP250 =
over the weekend and he made mention that all things over 50 or 60 years =
of age are bound to leak.
=20
Hoo Roo
=20
Patrick Quinn
Blue Mountains
Australia
=20
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob =
Spidell
Sent: Monday, 25 May 2015 12:14 AM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume
=20
Offhand, I'd believe the workshop manual first. If you're doing a =
drain-and-fill, you don't know for sure how much residual oil is left so =
you have to go by the dipstick anyway.
Bob
On 5/24/2015 6:32 AM, Simon Lachlan wrote:
Hi,
1) My car=E2=80=99s Driver=E2=80=99s Handbook page 7, (AKD 3915A) =
tells me that:
my MkII BT7=E2=80=99s gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 US pts)=20
its overdrive takes 1.33 imp pts (1.75 US pts)
=20
2) My BMC Workshop Manual (AKD 1179D) tells me that:
gearbox 4.0 imp pts (4.80 US pts)
Total gearbox, overdrive fitted, 5.25 imp pts (6.30 US pts)
=20
3) My Haynes manual goes for:
Standard box:- 5 imp pts
With overdrive:- 6.25 pts =20
=20
4) My Autopress manual (Kenneth Ball) goes for:
Standard box:- 5 imp pts
With overdrive:- 6.25 pts
=20
ie only Haynes and Autopress agree.
I=E2=80=99ve had this Healey for +/- 20 years and I=E2=80=99ve never =
noticed these discrepancies! I seem to have survived by using the dip =
stick, but I=E2=80=99d bet that I=E2=80=99ve overfilled more than once.
=20
Any ideas? I don=E2=80=99t recall this coming up before.....
=20
Thanks,
Simon
(And I didn=E2=80=99t mention Redline once!)
=20
=20
=20
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>That=E2=80=99s very interesting. Seems like they got the whole thing =
into a muddle on Day One and never really =
recovered.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Makes trial and error, one of my usual fallbacks, seem quite sensible =
in the circs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Keith =
Taylor<br><b>Sent:</b> 25 May 2015 03:20<br><b>To:</b> =
healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil =
volume<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>My =
original BN1 1954 Service Manual has an "ERRATUM ' =
sticker on the inside cover stating :-<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> &=
nbsp; &n=
bsp; =
=
Gearbox/overdrive Oil Capacity <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> &=
nbsp; &n=
bsp; The combined capacity of the Gearbox =
and overdrive is<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> &=
nbsp; &n=
bsp; 5 1/2 Imp. pints (dry) and not =
4 1/2 Imp pints as stated <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> &=
nbsp; &n=
bsp; After draining, 1/4 pint =
of oil will remain in the overdrive<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> &=
nbsp; &n=
bsp; hydraulic system, therefore ,only 5 1/2 =
pints will be required<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> &=
nbsp; &n=
bsp; for refilling. =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> &=
nbsp; &n=
bsp; <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> &=
nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nb=
sp; Pubs. 996B and 997A December =
1954<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So when filling from rebuild add the extra 1/4 =
pint .... 5 3/4 pints<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Later editions may have carried the =
correction and side and top shift gearboxes may =
vary<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Keith Taylor<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>southern Highlands =
OZ<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 25 =
May 2015 at 07:54, Patrick & Caroline Quinn <<a =
href=3D"mailto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au"; =
target=3D"_blank">p_cquinn@tpg.com.au</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Greetings</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Well that=E2=80=99s interesting =
as I will be buying the oil for the BN3=E2=80=99s gearbox this week. It =
is a 100S gearbox with a 22% OD that has been completely rebuilt and =
apart from the oil used in the assembly it=E2=80=99s completely =
empty.</span><span lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>My 1968 BMC Workshop Manual (AKD =
1179H) that I bought new in September 1974 for $7.00 states that the oil =
capacity for a side-shift gearbox fitted with an OD is 6 =C2=BC imp =
pints, 7.5 US pints and 3.55 litres. I states the same for a =
centre-shift box as well. So I will be buying a 4 litre container and =
store what=E2=80=99s left over for the inevitable leaks.</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Talking about leaks I was =
watching a Jay Leno video of his Daimler SP250 over the weekend and he =
made mention that all things over 50 or 60 years of age are bound to =
leak.</span><span lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Hoo Roo</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Patrick Quinn</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Blue Mountains</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Australia</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm;border-color:currentColor currentColor'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Bob Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 25 May 2015 12:14 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Gearbox oil volume</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Offhand, I'd believe the workshop manual first. If =
you're doing a drain-and-fill, you don't know for sure how much residual =
oil is left so you have to go by the dipstick =
anyway.<br><br>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>On 5/24/2015 6:32 AM, Simon Lachlan =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>1)</span><span lang=3DEN-AU =
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>My car=E2=80=99s Driver=E2=80=99s Handbook page 7, (AKD =
3915A) tells me that:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>my MkII BT7=E2=80=99s gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 US =
pts) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>its overdrive takes 1.33 imp pts (1.75 US =
pts)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>2)</span><span lang=3DEN-AU =
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>My BMC Workshop Manual (AKD 1179D) tells me =
that:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>gearbox  =
; 4.0 imp pts (4.80 US =
pts)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Total gearbox, overdrive fitted, 5.25 imp pts (6.30 US =
pts)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>3)</span><span lang=3DEN-AU =
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>My Haynes manual goes for:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Standard box:- 5 imp pts<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>With overdrive:- 6.25 =
pts &nbs=
p; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>4)</span><span lang=3DEN-AU =
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>My Autopress manual (Kenneth Ball) goes =
for:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Standard box:- 5 imp pts<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>With overdrive:- 6.25 pts<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>ie only Haynes and Autopress agree.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>I=E2=80=99ve had this Healey for +/- 20 years and =
I=E2=80=99ve never noticed these discrepancies! I seem to have survived =
by using the dip stick, but I=E2=80=99d bet that I=E2=80=99ve overfilled =
more than once.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Any ideas? I don=E2=80=99t recall this coming up =
before.....<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>(And I didn=E2=80=99t mention Redline =
once!)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU> =
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